"Ancient Alien' ideas because Church alienated from its heritage
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In that case I misunderstood you. In what sense are God and aliens the same?
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In the sense that the supernatural does not exist. God could be just a very advanced Alien with some very advanced technology. Heaven maybe another planet.
We are made in his image and likeness which also suggests that we are hybrids of God's race.
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So is the bible as no one around today can prove that God exists.
In the past though its been a case of the events in the bible either did not happen or they did
The Ancient Alien theory however now offers a third option, one which is very plausible and logical indeed.
The Ancient Alien theory also can answer things like the virgin birth.
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In that case I misunderstood you. In what sense are you a Christian?
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Because of being separated from the writings of Enoch the prophet, the seventh from Adam, men make up fables which they would not do if they had the foundation of the doctrines of the first book of "last things/eschatology", which is the Book of Enoch.
But also in the future, according to Enoch, men will invent more fables in the tribulation because they are not familiar with book of Enoch...
For instance, men will worship stars as gods, in those days to come, when the earth is turned upside down, is moved out of her place, jumps about as a chased roe, and seasons appear backwards, and stars change...
Enoch 80:
The Book of Enoch, Translated by Robert H. Charles, 1912
2And in the days of the sinners the years shall be shortened,
And their seed shall be tardy on their lands and fields,
And all things on the earth shall alter,
And shall not appear in their time:
And the rain shall be kept back
And the heaven shall withhold it.
3And in those times the fruits of the earth shall be backward,
And shall not grow in their time,
And the fruits of the trees shall be withheld in their time.
4And the moon shall alter her order,
And not appear at her time.
5And in those days the sun shall be seen and he shall journey in the evening on the extremity of the great chariot in the west
And shall shine more brightly than accords with the order of light.
6And many chiefs of the stars shall transgress the order prescribed.
And these shall alter their orbits and tasks,
And not appear at the seasons prescribed to them.
7And the whole order of the stars shall be concealed from the sinners,
And the thoughts of those on the earth shall err concerning them,
And they shall be altered from all their ways,
Yea, they shall err and take them to be gods.
8And evil shall be multiplied upon them,
And punishment shall come upon them
So as to destroy all."
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I think God's timing was perfect in bringing the Book of Enoch into my life. I had picked it up and put it down many times over the years without ever giving it a serious read.
In August, 2006, I was in Mexico on vacation and read, "The Footsteps of the Messiah: A Study of the Sequence of Prophetic Events" by Arnold Fruchtenbaum. The book straightened me out on a number of issues. Even without referencing Enoch, Arnold endorses the Nephilim =human/angelic hybrid explanation of Genesis 6. He then points out that the Antichrist will also be such a hybrid; on the one hand the beast "ascends out of the pit", ie., is of demonic origin, and is the prince referred to in "the people of the prince who is to come", ie., a Roman of human origin.
So, in September when I was done with that book and looking for something else I happened to pick up a book of pseudepigraphal writings. The first entry happened to be Enoch; but the author who assembled this collection of writings in his book had cut out huge portions and was doling out only the portions he saw fit. I didn't like that, (does anyone?) so I put down the book and googled Enoch up and started to read. At about that time I also joined a Yahoo group discussing the book.
The writer of Enoch in his preamble says he's writing for the elect living in the "day of tribulation". What may be the earliest human book ever written was written for the last generation?! Wow! I was hooked and got thoroughly roped in.
All along I was looking for some sign of authentication, some sign of revelation internal to the book. When I understood what the 70 generations prophecy meant and how it pointed to the precise generation of Jesus Christ, I had the authentication I needed. I've been delving since then.
Enoch chapter 1 is the preamble to the book. In it Enoch entirely skips over the event of the deluge and refers to a much later time of reckoning when God will put an end to all the ungodly. So, though this book deals in large part with the problems on earth before the flood, the record is put down to give encouragement and hope to the saints in the end time. In other words, what transpired in former times is a kind of "type" of what will be. And if all turned out well for the godly then, how much more will it turn out for good in the end?
2 Peter 3:4-7: They will say, "Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation." For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
It should fill our hearts with joy that God's will will be done.
In August, 2006, I was in Mexico on vacation and read, "The Footsteps of the Messiah: A Study of the Sequence of Prophetic Events" by Arnold Fruchtenbaum. The book straightened me out on a number of issues. Even without referencing Enoch, Arnold endorses the Nephilim =human/angelic hybrid explanation of Genesis 6. He then points out that the Antichrist will also be such a hybrid; on the one hand the beast "ascends out of the pit", ie., is of demonic origin, and is the prince referred to in "the people of the prince who is to come", ie., a Roman of human origin.
So, in September when I was done with that book and looking for something else I happened to pick up a book of pseudepigraphal writings. The first entry happened to be Enoch; but the author who assembled this collection of writings in his book had cut out huge portions and was doling out only the portions he saw fit. I didn't like that, (does anyone?) so I put down the book and googled Enoch up and started to read. At about that time I also joined a Yahoo group discussing the book.
The writer of Enoch in his preamble says he's writing for the elect living in the "day of tribulation". What may be the earliest human book ever written was written for the last generation?! Wow! I was hooked and got thoroughly roped in.
All along I was looking for some sign of authentication, some sign of revelation internal to the book. When I understood what the 70 generations prophecy meant and how it pointed to the precise generation of Jesus Christ, I had the authentication I needed. I've been delving since then.
Enoch chapter 1 is the preamble to the book. In it Enoch entirely skips over the event of the deluge and refers to a much later time of reckoning when God will put an end to all the ungodly. So, though this book deals in large part with the problems on earth before the flood, the record is put down to give encouragement and hope to the saints in the end time. In other words, what transpired in former times is a kind of "type" of what will be. And if all turned out well for the godly then, how much more will it turn out for good in the end?
2 Peter 3:4-7: They will say, "Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation." For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
It should fill our hearts with joy that God's will will be done.
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Just as Jesus Christ even as a child knew who His Father was (Luke 2:49), so the Antichrist (who could be an adult living today) could have known even as a child who his father was. Just as Christ's mother was impregnated by God Himself (Luke 1:35), so the Antichrist's mother could have been impregnated by Satan himself.
And just as Christ at about 30 years of age (Luke 3:23) received God's Spirit (Luke 3:22), as a human, without measure (John 3:34b), so the Antichrist (who could be much older than 30 today) could have received, at about 30 years of age, Satan's spirit without measure.
One aspect of Revelation's beast is it's a powerful fallen angel (referred to with a Greek masculine-pronoun "he" in Revelation 17:11) who's now literally in the Bottomless Pit and will ascend from it during the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 to spiritually empower the empire of the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) (Revelation 17:8-11), empire being a 3rd aspect of the beast, represented by the animal symbols of Revelation 13:1-2. The fallen-angel aspect of the beast could be the angelic prince whom Satan assigned to spiritually empower the ancient empire of Babylon, just as Satan assigned other fallen angelic princes to spiritually empower the subsequent ancient empires of Persia and Greece (Daniel 10:13,20). When the ancient empire of Babylon was defeated, the fallen angelic prince empowering it could have been cast into the Bottomless Pit. This same fallen angel could be released to empower a revival of the empire of Babylon during the Antichrist's future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (of Revelation 13:5-18).
The release of the powerful fallen angelic prince of Babylon from the Bottomless Pit could occur at the same time as the unbinding of 4 other powerful fallen angels now bound in the Euphrates (Revelation 9:14b), who could have been bound there at the fall of the ancient empire of Babylon. The binding of a stone to a scroll (written down by the prophet Jeremiah) about the fall of the ancient empire of Babylon, and the casting of the scroll into the Euphrates to sink down to the bottom (Jeremiah 51:63-64) could have been a symbolic act which included a representation of the binding of the 4 powerful fallen angels and their being cast into the Euphrates to sink down to the bottom.
When these 4 fallen angels are released at one point during the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, they will cause an army of 200 million strange horse-like beings to kill 1/3 of mankind (Revelation 9:15-19). This could be done to make mankind completely desperate before its takeover by Satan and the Antichrist mid-tribulation, when Satan and his fallen angels will be cast down from heaven to the earth permanently after losing a mid-tribulation war in heaven (Revelation 12:7 to 13:18).
In the 1st century AD fulfillment of Daniel 9:26b,27b, Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD by Roman-empire soldiers from nations throughout the Roman empire (which included the territory of modern-day Lebanon). These soldiers were "the people" in Daniel 9:26, their "prince" being Titus. In the future fulfillment of Daniel 9:26b, Jerusalem will be destroyed by all the nations of the earth, which will be under the future Antichrist's rule (Revelation 13:7b) when they gather against Jerusalem right before Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Zechariah 14:2-21).
The Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") could have grown up as a Druze Arab, in Lebanon, in the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). So he could at first present himself to the world as being of the (quasi-Islamic) Druze religion, which is waiting for the second coming of a God-man named Hakim. The Antichrist's last name could be Hakim, and he could at first present himself to the Druze people as the fulfillment of the second coming of this God-man. In this way, he could get the Druze to support him without question during an initial rise to power among the Arabs. The Druze Arabs could be the numerically "small people" of Daniel 11:23. The Antichrist could make them his completely devoted bodyguard, and buy them many key positions of power within a future, United Arab States (which the Antichrist could become the leader of in the 1st stage of his world takeover), and employ the Druze as loyal spies and assassins at every level of his United Arab government and military.
The Druze religion is very secretive. What it teaches to its higher-level initiates isn't even taught to its lower-level initiates. What it could teach to its higher-level initiates could basically be Gnosticism mixed in with the Hakim God-man idea. The Antichrist himself, while outwardly a Druze, could inwardly be a Gnostic Luciferian, that is, a Satanist. He could be a highest-level initiate of a worldwide secret society which ultimately teaches Satanism, but keeps this a secret even from its own members who haven't been initiated into its highest level.
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