Doesn't say that. Where do you get that idea from?All the ones claiming they were He. Hope this helps.
Yes, many times.
Man can you pray for me please1 Timothy 4:1
“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”
Doesn't say that. Where do you get that idea from?
Colossians:
25 a]">[a]Whereof I am a minister, according to the dispensation of God, which is given me unto youward, to fulfill the word of God,
26 Which is the mystery hid since the world began, and from all ages, but now is made manifest to his b]">[b]Saints,
27 To whom God c]">[c]would make known what is the riches of his glorious mystery among the Gentiles, which riches is Christ in you, the hope of glory,
Christ was the first and only bearer of the "door" to spirituality. The Jews never had it.
Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. He never said to love the poor that we had to become one of them. When we give to lesser than ourselves, we give to Christ. When those above us take our coats, give them our shirt as well. Jesus is explaining that material things make no difference in the spiritual and has no value.Then you are not reading it right. Jesus says to the believers of all nations to love the poor. If they don’t do so, it is as if they are not loving Jesus; There are eternal dire consequences to one’s soul if they don’t love the poor.
Eternal security is the doctrine that when a person is saved nothing can affect their salvation. They can never lose it for any reason. I believe Eternal Security is true because of the following verses:
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Tell me, how can you read those verses and NOT believe in Eternal Security? Jesus is extremely clear. Out of all that the Father gives to Jesus he will lose NONE of them! In other words, Everyone's salvation is Eternally secure! It's right there in black and white! So, what do you think? Is Eternal Security real? Why or why not?
They may have been "set apart," as I thoroughly explained in post #267, but it does not specifically say they were "justified" or "saved," so there is nothing left for me to address.I did not. I asserted that the verses indicated that they were justified not because the word "sanctified" was used, but because they were sanctified by the blood of Jesus.
And I gave several other reasons in my initial post, none of which have been addressed.
It is more than temptation as in 1 Cor. 10:13I "liked" your post however the bolded above is really not Biblical. I'll explain. If you meant temptation yes correct. However we sometimes get dished out to us situations beyond what we can handle as a test of faith to see where we go for comfort and help. Each according to maturity and light given.
Just wanted to make that distinction.
Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. He never said to love the poor that we had to become one of them. When we give to lesser than ourselves, we give to Christ. When those above us take our coats, give them our shirt as well. Jesus is explaining that material things make no difference in the spiritual and has no value.
I'm envisioning things just fine.
Not true.
“And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.” (1 Corinthians 10:4).
I don't know what you're getting at. Love your enemy also. Are you on some type of poor thing.No. Loving the poor would be included in loving your neighbor.
Read again the Parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37).
I think we need to clean this passage up a bit:I'm going to go with the earlier version of the Bible here (1599):
1 Moreover, a]">[a]brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, that all our b]">[b]fathers were under that cloud, and all passed through that sea,
2 c]">[c]And were all d]">[d]baptized unto e]">[e]Moses, in that cloud, and in that sea,
3 And did all eat the f]">[f]same spiritual g]">[g]meat,
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink (for they drank of the spiritual Rock that h]">[h]followed them: and the Rock was i]">[i]Christ.)
5 But with many of them God was not pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 j]">[j]Now these things are our k]">[k]examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.7 Neither be ye idolaters as were some of them, as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed fornication, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt l]">[l]Christ, as some of them also tempted him, and were destroyed of serpents.
The parenthesis is Pauls pause to say that the spirit that followed much later as Christ, was present with them even back then. Paul is saying not to follow after those who say that they have the spirit yet do not understand it and why verses 5-9 proves that spiritual food and drink wasn't enough.
I'm going to go with the earlier version of the Bible here (1599):
1 Moreover, a]">[a]brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, that all our b]">[b]fathers were under that cloud, and all passed through that sea,
2 c]">[c]And were all d]">[d]baptized unto e]">[e]Moses, in that cloud, and in that sea,
3 And did all eat the f]">[f]same spiritual g]">[g]meat,
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink (for they drank of the spiritual Rock that h]">[h]followed them: and the Rock was i]">[i]Christ.)
5 But with many of them God was not pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 j]">[j]Now these things are our k]">[k]examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.7 Neither be ye idolaters as were some of them, as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed fornication, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt l]">[l]Christ, as some of them also tempted him, and were destroyed of serpents.
The parenthesis is Pauls pause to say that the spirit that followed much later as Christ, was present with them even back then. Paul is saying not to follow after those who say that they have the spirit yet do not understand it and why verses 5-9 proves that spiritual food and drink wasn't enough.
I don't know what you're getting at. Love your enemy also. Are you on some type of poor thing.
You do know Ishmael was just an infant at the time right, the term used by Paul does mean overt persecution but the idea here is Ishmael was a threat to the child of promise. Being the first born Ishmael would have been entitled to the inheritance from Abraham, but God had him sent away. Isaac was born of the spirit, his birth was miraculous. Ishmael was born of the flesh in that he was conceived by Hagar because Sarah and Abraham had trouble believing God's promise. When Abraham heard the promise he laughed, when Sarah overheard the promise she laughed. That's where Isaac got his name, it means 'she laughs'. So much for easy believism.No. Galatians 4:29 says, "But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now."
This is in reference to how Ishmael persecuted Isaac who was born after the Spirit.
Also, the words "circumcision of the heart" in the Old Testament was in reference to being born again spiritually. Try doing a study on it some time, my friend.
You don't have to be arrogant.............my friend. You use the word "NO" a lot. Learn to debate civilly.No. Galatians 4:29 says, "But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now."
This is in reference to how Ishmael persecuted Isaac who was born after the Spirit.
Also, the words "circumcision of the heart" in the Old Testament was in reference to being born again spiritually. Try doing a study on it some time, my friend.
No. Your simply not reading and believing Scripture or you are simply not aware that Scripture teaches that loving your neighbor is the same thing as loving the poor or the afflicted.
27 "And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."
(Luke 10:25-37).
You don't have to be arrogant.............my friend. You use the word "NO" a lot. Learn to debate civilly.
If the Jews had been told to be born again by Moses, why did they not understand the term when Jesus spoke it? They did the best through could with the partial truth given them. They were saved by their faith once Christ came to man. They couldn't seek the kingdom of God because it wasn't given to them to know. Jesus taught us to seek it we have to be born again. To receive it we are born of fire (Chrism Holy Ghost). Show me where the spirituality of seeking the kingdom of God and the baptism of the Holy Ghost appear in the OT.