I'd say to both of these quotes that the bible doesn't say "Certain musical beats are from the devil and you should avoid them!"
The Bible doesn't have to use words that you prefer to hear so as to condemn a particular thing that is sinful. There is no command saying inappropriate content is exactly sinful, but it is implied by various different texts in Scripture. I also doubt that if there was such a more direct command it would not change many of those who enjoy this music (so falsely called).
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Now I am not disagreeing that death metal for some makes them angry to some degree. However its not true of everyone. So we can't say all death metal is bad, perhaps we can say instead for those who listen to it and don't feel angry, its ok to listen to it. And for those who feel anger, guard your heart and be careful.
The Bible says avoid evil communication.
It sounds and looks evil. I mean, if a man screams like a demon or a monster that is not an indication that it is not evil? Men in these so called Christian bands use cultic symbols, show ripped up bodies, and they glorify death and they imitate their secular counter parts and wear long hair like women. In fact, some groups in the 80's like Poison used to dress up in an effeminate kind of way. They had long hair and they wore make up and lipstick, etc. This is what Christian Heavy Metal artists are copying when they wear long hair. Also, they cannot be understood in their music. Paul says he would rather speak five words with the understanding instead of five thousand words without the understanding. Then there is the anger and aggression in the beat itself. We see the fruits of anger from this music with mosh pits of Christians acting violently just like it's secular counterparts. So one cannot even tell the difference between them.
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Actually I am totally against OSAS. Actually we are supporting evil, we only choose to pretend we are not so we feel better about it.
One more test (Just to make sure). Do you believe that sin (like murder, hate, adultery, etc.) can cause a separation between a believer and God if they do not repent of such sins?
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Just like I once had a inappropriate content addiction and would say "I'm not taking part in inappropriate content, I'm just looking at it, so I'm not really doing anything bad!"
This is different than what your nation does. You have no control over what your nation does or does not do. inappropriate content watching is something that you as a Christian can overcome by the power of Jesus.
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Your tax dollars go to things that are against the bible. Thats fact. Obviously its impossible not to pay tax though, so we are stuck paying tax and thus knowing some of the money goes to evil things.
Again, we are not held accountable to what our nation does or what they will do with our tax dollars. We have no say so in what they do with that money so it is out of our control but it is in God's control. God places into power the nations and it's leaders. Those Christians who do evil, their own nation can punish them for breaking certain moral laws (See Romans 13).
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Lastly I'd say after reading the like 60 posts since I was last on, we all get your point of course. But so far all you've really done is say "I am against this and if you are for it then your evil too!".
Nowhere did I say anyone here was evil personally. Those are your words and they are not mine. I am saying the music is evil and sinful. I am striving to attack the wrong belief here and not the person.
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Which is a giant mistsake christians make. We can't condemn others just because we feel guilty about something. Well assuming said thing is not a sin or is in a grey are when it comes to sin. I use Romans 14:2 as the best example:
"One person's faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables."
No mention of music in Romans 14. Romans 14 is talking about food, drink, and Sabbaths. To make it say that it is talking about music is to add to God's Word. Music has an emotional component to it that food, drink, and observing a particular day over another in regards to the Sabbath do not have. We can just add whatever we like in Romans 14. But it does not work like that. We have to stick and abide with what Scripture says and not go beyond what it says.
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This is where this topic is at currently. You feel compelled by the Holy Spirit not to listen to death metal, and thats fine. You feel it affects you. But you are now telling everyone else they can't listen to it either just because you think they are affected the same way. Now if this was an issue of lets say inappropriate content, you'd be in the right since its a sin period and theres no way to get around it. But this issue at hand is not a sin and not everyone has the angry feelings.
Some Christians at CF have said they feel that inappropriate content watching is not morally wrong. No doubt they can also use Romans 14 as an excuse that they have a liberty in Christ, too. They are convinced in their own minds that it is not wrong. But we both know better.
The problem here is that Death Metal has not just one problem but many problems spelled out to us in Scripture. It is not just one thing. There are many things that point out how it is wrong.
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