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If it is by Beelzebub that I cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out...? This is why...

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"If it is by Beelzebub that I cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out...? This is why they (and me) (Christ) will be your judges"... (Matthew 12:27) (Matthew 12:22-28) (Luke 11:19) (Luke 11:15-20)

Why will Christ and the Pharisees Son's be the Judges of the Pharisees (and those like them) (those that may think that Jesus is a or the Devil)...?

Is it not because it is a false accusation and a form of persecution for the Son's of the Pharisees (and those like them)...?

Some people find these particular passages of scripture difficult to comprehend or understand, but it's actually pretty clear that Jesus is saying that he is not, nor is doing what he's doing by the power of the devil or Satan, and/or that he is Satan himself, either, and neither are or will their/his children either... (Matthew 10:25)

Cause then he says, "But if it by God's power, strength and authority that he (and their son's) does these things (miracles, signs, wonders) then the Kingdom of God has really overtaken them... (Matthew 12:28) (Luke 11:20)...

This is Jesus way of saying and trying to prove to everyone that he, nor his or their children who choose to follow him, are at all of Satan, the Devil in any way...

In Matthew 12:33, Jesus is like the tree, either make the tree or him, good or bad, and if it is good, it will produce good fruit, but if it is bad, or you make it bad, bad fruit...

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God Bless!
 

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Jesus is simply playing deductive reasoning with the Pharisees. :)

If you need A to go to B, what would Frederick use to go to B? The answer is A.

If with a demon, you cast out a demon......what are theirs sons are casting out demons with?

The answer is a demon!

Jesus is simply using the broken reasoning of the Pharisees against them. To make them realize how juvenile their accusation is and doesn't hold any merit. ;)

What the Pharisees are actually calling on to cast out evil spirits are likely the names of angels (just like modern exorcists). These Angels are probably what Jesus is referring to the ones that will judge the Pharisees as they will take part in judging the wicked in the last days by destroying them.
 
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Jesus is simply playing deductive reasoning with the Pharisees. :)

If you need A to go to B, what would Frederick use to go to B? The answer is A.

If with a demon, you cast out a demon......what are theirs sons are casting out demons with?

The answer is a demon!

Jesus is simply using the broken reasoning of the Pharisees against them. To make them realize how juvenile their accusation is and doesn't hold any merit. ;)

What the Pharisees are actually calling on to cast out evil spirits are likely the names of angels (just like modern exorcists). These Angels are probably what Jesus is referring to the ones that will judge the Pharisees as they will take part in judging the wicked in the last days by destroying them.
Right after those passages, Jesus talks about entering the house of the strong man, and binding or tying him up and taking and stealing and using his goods or things, and the bound strong man cannot do anything about it, I think Jesus Finally bound him and sealed his fate during his moment of his final greatest and highest moment and test and trial, in the wilderness before he went performing miracles and preaching and teaching and his work that required the enemy's goods or things for him to do it, necessitating binding him, or rendering him null and void, powerless...

Satan's temptation of all the kingdoms of the world and Jesus refusal, was when the Devil/Satan risked losing and lost (his things, his power and authority) and risked it, and lost, and it's became Jesus, then some say Jesus became him to kill him, or throw him into a pit, by one seemingly elusive, seemingly minor difference that had set the two apart somehow, but it is actually major, but, I don't know what it is, anyone know...?

Jesus could be the greater serpent, and Satan and his demons, the lesser...

Also, I think that to think that Jesus used demons to cast out demons, is heresy BTW, he said "But, if it is by means of God's finger, or power and authority see Satan used or tried to use his things to always oppose God's will, But, Jesus used them to fulfill and accomplish God's will, Satan used it for Evil, Jesus uses it for God which is in God's will, which means with and by God's power an authority that he was commanding demons and they had no choice bu to obey, God did that...

God Bless!
 
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