God led me to the Strip Club?

This is great:
Christian 1: "God told me to leave my wife's bed side, pick up a stripper at a strip club and spend the night with the stripper in a motel instead!"
Christian 2: "Amen! That's the kind of God I serve!"

And I find no fault in it!

Far Side Of the Moon said:

Why are people surprised? Didn't God tell Hosea to marry a hooker? Why is this so farfetched?

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This a common Christian misunderstanding.
But that is not what the Bible actually says.

Here is a thread at CF I created on this matter.

Did God Really Tell Hosea to Marry a Prostitute?


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Hidden In Him said:

Never mind, Joe. I have the same problem with Jason7, and it's not gonna go anywhere with him either.

No offense. Forget it.

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1 Peter 3:15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

JayW said:

It's only incredibly unwise if you have a predilection toward that particular temptation. I have no temptation toward drunkenness. Why would it not be OK for me to witness to a person in the presence of alcohol?

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Where does God command us to set ourselves in the presence of temptation, any temptation, regardless of whether or not you have a predilection for it?

I don't find anywhere in scripture where God says, if you don't have a predilection to a certain sin, it is ok to go hang out with those engaged in that sin.

So If God asked all women both married and unmarried to dress like strippers in worship service the men would find no fault in that either. It would only get more people to church. Does that sound sound? No, didn't think so.

All4Christ said:

I did in a later post say that it was not directly written that it was a lie. However, it is said that he got up in the middle of the night to go to a strip club. 99% of wives would not be ok with a husband doing that and staying out all night with a stripper at a hotel. Perhaps she was an exception.

Poll of married women...would you be ok with your husband doing this? Would you ask to be the one help at a hotel instead of your husband staying alone with her? Or ask for some alternative?

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A poll would not answer my question. I see you have
your opinion, but that does not answer my question, either. Rather you evade it and change the subject. The question was, Where in the OP does it say the man lied to his wife?

If my husband wanted to do what that man did, and told me he had heard from the Lord, I would pray with him about it. I would NOT assume he was up to no good, if his character was generally not inclined toward strip clubs. If we prayed together and I felt peace in my heart, I would support him in going there and would be praying for him and the others there, while he was away.

Friend, how many people have turned from a life of sexual degeneracy and drug addiction because of your witness? (And I could ask that question of us all.) Probably zero.

You weren't there. You don't know what the heck was in his heart or in his wife's heart. Most important of all you are assuming that the Holy Spirit acts according to the rules in the box you think you have put Him in. He's never going to be in your box. You don't know all about His mind, much less the wives you speculate about.

LoricaLady said:

You weren't there. You don't know what the heck was in his heart or in his wife's heart. Most important of all you are assuming that the Holy Spirit acts according to the rules in the box you think you have put Him in.

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Amen. Well said.

LoricaLady said:

A poll would not answer my question. I see you have
your opinion, but that does not answer my question, either. Rather you evade it and change the subject. The question was, Where in the OP does it say the man lied to his wife?

If my husband wanted to do what that man did, and told me he had heard from the Lord, I would pray with him about it. I would NOT assume he was up to no good, if his character was generally not inclined toward strip clubs. If we prayed together and I felt peace in my heart, I would support him in going there and would be praying for him and the others there, while he was away.

Friend, how many people have turned from a life of sexual degeneracy and drug addiction because of your witness? (And I could ask that question of us all.) Probably zero.

You weren't there. You don't know what the heck was in his heart or in his wife's heart. Most important of all you are assuming that the Holy Spirit acts according to the rules in the box you think you have put Him in. He's never going to be in your box. You don't know all about His mind, much less the wives you speculate about.

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But which sins does a person draw the line at?
Should a believer go in the middle of the night to hang out with thieves while they are doing their hiest?
Should a believer hang out on the set of a inappropriate content video being made?
Should a believer hang out with people who are beating up other people in the park (with him doing nothing)?
On top of that, he paid money in supporting the industry of sin.
He paid money for a lap dance but he lied about the exchange of service so as to talk about God instead. Also, people do not go into hotels with a stripper late at night (without telling their wife) if their intentions are pure. Anyone normal would have waited until the next day to talk to her in a public place. He would not do something so as to cause distrust within his marriage.

Granted, while there is a very slim chance of him being innocent, based on the evidence it is really just too hard to believe that he is not guilty. Late night getaways to a hotel with another woman (who is a stripper none the less) does not make sense outside the realm of sex. If he was a cop who was on duty trying to bust her for illegal prostitution (as a part of a sting operation), then that would be a story that might work. But he would need fellow witnesses (officers) that would testify to such an operation.


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JoeP222w said:

Where does God command us to set ourselves in the presence of temptation, any temptation, regardless of whether or not you have a predilection for it?

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By that same logic you should never get out of bed in the morning.

JayW said:

By that same logic you should never get out of bed in the morning.

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Right, because naked female strippers are in the public on every street corner.
There is a difference between being in an environment that is in support of a particular horrible sin (that can lead you to sin easily) vs. being out in the public where such is not the case.


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LoricaLady said:

A poll would not answer my question. I see you have
your opinion, but that does not answer my question, either. Rather you evade it and change the subject. The question was, Where in the OP does it say the man lied to his wife?

If my husband wanted to do what that man did, and told me he had heard from the Lord, I would pray with him about it. I would NOT assume he was up to no good, if his character was generally not inclined toward strip clubs. If we prayed together and I felt peace in my heart, I would support him in going there and would be praying for him and the others there, while he was away.

Friend, how many people have turned from a life of sexual degeneracy and drug addiction because of your witness? (And I could ask that question of us all.) Probably zero.

You weren't there. You don't know what the heck was in his heart or in his wife's heart. Most important of all you are assuming that the Holy Spirit acts according to the rules in the box you think you have put Him in. He's never going to be in your box. You don't know all about His mind, much less the wives you speculate about.

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I did answer the question in a previous response to you.

And while I can't claim to be the sole catalyst of this (all healing is by the grace of God), I have worked with friends that were in promiscuity, addicted to drugs and alcohol, with much prayer and time spent when they needed help.

Read my other posts. I have said that I do not know the person, that it is possible it happened (though I'm not confident it did), but that I believe God would instruct someone to do it differently. If my husband told me about a message from God to do that and I prayed with him, I trust that God would give me peace as well.

I trust my husband as well, but he knows that it would be difficult for me to have him do that. We would both need peace from God to confirm that was he right this to do, especially if he was questioning it himself as the OP said. (Plus there are multiple areas that didn't need to be done the same way to accomplish the same mission.)

Believers can choose to witness to these places of sin without going into the actual environment of sin itself where one can be tempted and fall themselves. It is not wise for a believer (Who is of the light) and who seeks to walk in God's good ways to be in a place that can make them to stumble and or to backslide.


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LoricaLady said:

A poll would not answer my question. I see you have
your opinion, but that does not answer my question, either. Rather you evade it and change the subject. The question was, Where in the OP does it say the man lied to his wife?

If my husband wanted to do what that man did, and told me he had heard from the Lord, I would pray with him about it. I would NOT assume he was up to no good, if his character was generally not inclined toward strip clubs. If we prayed together and I felt peace in my heart, I would support him in going there and would be praying for him and the others there, while he was away.

Friend, how many people have turned from a life of sexual degeneracy and drug addiction because of your witness? (And I could ask that question of us all.) Probably zero.

You weren't there. You don't know what the heck was in his heart or in his wife's heart. Most important of all you are assuming that the Holy Spirit acts according to the rules in the box you think you have put Him in. He's never going to be in your box. You don't know all about His mind, much less the wives you speculate about.

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Paul says we are to flee fornication.
It seems like this man was running into the direction of the pit of fornication and he was not running away from it. So he is ignoring a command in God's Word, as well. Well, he probably not thinking much about this Scripture at the time (I am sure).


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Jesus says to look upon a woman in lust can cause one to be in danger of hell fire (Matthew 5:28-30). I do not see where God or Jesus had said that it is okay to toy with the idea of lusting after woman as long as you do not lust. In other words, if you play with fire, you are going to get burned. You juggle chainsaws while doing backflips through hoops of fire and you could get hurt. You swim in a pool of sharks and you could get bit. You buy a poodle and you take a take the chance on stepping into a hot steaming pile of dog poo (i.e. a strategically placed land mine) upon your beautiful white carpet. You stare at naked women as a part of ministering for God and you are going to stumble one day by the lust of the flesh. For if it was good for him to do so once, then he can do it again, right? He can keep looking at naked women and then say he was not sinning and come home to his wife with her being all happy that he was being a good boy in a strip club again. Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.


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Jason0047 said:

Right, because naked female strippers are in the public on every street corner.

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If naked female stripers are a source of temptation for you, that should be cause for introspection, not projection. With that in mind, you seem to be posting an awful lot on this thread. Is there something about strippers and prostitutes that's a particular triggering point with you? I ask that as an oportunity to prompt self evaluation, not condemnation. I'm not looking for an answer.

Lol, I believe it. I myself struggle with sexual addictions, so I know he ain't sending me in there.

JayW said:

By that same logic you should never get out of bed in the morning.

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Do you consider that a reasonable response to my question? I don't, looks like a dodge to me.

Jason0047 said:

Believers can choose to witness to these places of sin without going into the actual environment of sin itself where one can be tempted and fall themselves. It is not wise for a believer (Who is of the light) and who seeks to walk in God's good ways to be in a place that can make them to stumble and or to backslide.


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Amen and Amen.

JoeP222w said:

Do you consider that a reasonable response to my question? I don't, looks like a dodge to me.

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Perfectly reasonable. You seem to be of the opinion (and I apologize if I'm wrong) that because something is a source of great temptation to you that everyone else should avoid it, that your personal temptations are universal. That's not reality.

Some of the responses here remind me of the Pharisees complaining that Jesus consorted with sinners or healed on the Sabbath. They put their personal opinions about how He did things above the righteousness of what He did. I see that type of censoriousness is still alive today.

JayW said:

Perfectly reasonable. You seem to be of the opinion (and I apologize if I'm wrong) that because something is a source of great temptation to you that everyone else should avoid it, that your personal temptations are universal. That's not reality.

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Nope, you missed my point completely. And I never said my personal temptations are every man's (at least to the same degree). But God never commands us to get as close to sin as you possibly can without sinning. God commands us to flee from sin. If you are a man, and you are claiming that you are completely and perfectly immune to the sin of lust, especially if it was right in front of your face inside a Strip Club, I say that you are not being honest.

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.


I have not yet see anyone on this thread refute my point that it is far, far better to evangelize outside of the Strip Club, in public view, rather that in the darkness and shadows in the club.