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Obama spent almost $100,000,000 on his vacations and I didn't hear a peep of protest out of you about it, Ted. So, in answer to your question here, I'd say to get back to us when President Trump begins to rival the previous president. Oh, and don't forget to credit his $400,000 salary against these costs. Obama certainly didn't forego his salary while in office and I don't think many previous presidents did so either.

Hi albion,

Yes, but President Obama didn't campaign on a statement that he wouldn't take any time off because he was going to be too busy fixing other people's mistakes. President Obama was a much more gracious and even handed person than President Trump will ever be. President Obama spent nearly 100 million over 8 years. President Trump is on track to beat that in his first year. Plus we're paying way, way more for family security than we ever paid for any president. President Trump will never rival President Obama. He's not that good.

Oh, and about the pay thing, you might want to read this: Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Take no salary

He has to take his paycheck, but he can donate it, as many presidents before him have done. I'm willing to wait and see if that happens. President Trump has never been known to be a particularly generous person. Here's some information that you might be interested in about his charitable giving going back through many years of his life: Fact-checking Donald Trump’s Charity Claims

So, surely you'll understand that I'll wait to see some evidence that he ever does something that he says he'll do. So far, he's just been a man who says to people what he believes that they want to hear and really doesn't bother himself with whether he will ever do any of the things that he says he'll do.

So, no, I was never much bothered about President Obama's time away expenses, but then he didn't start right out of the gate taking spending so extravagantly on his personal time. President Obama didn't start off his presidency mired in all sorts of lies and half-truths. President Obama didn't go around pointing fingers at the 'other guy' whenever things didn't go his way. Like I said, President Trump will never be half the man that President Obama was. Anyway, you and I will just have to be on opposite sides of the fence concerning the worth or President Trump as president.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted
 
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Hi all,

Here's an article that I'd like everyone in this discussion to read. It's not so much about the untruths that President Trump has told so much as it is about what happens to us and our thinking, or lack thereof, when we are faced with a literal barrage of lies. It does, however, also give some history into just how long Donald Trump has been a liar and explains his attitude about it.

One of the examples is about some tile in a nursery room at his Mar-a-Lago resort. Apparently, years ago he made a comment that the tiles had been hand painted by Walt Disney himself. When his own butler called him on it, Mr. Trump's response was just, "who cares".

Anyway, for those who are interested in learning about the man that I find deplorable as our Commander in Chief, reading this article might give you some idea as to why I feel as I do about the man. It will pretty well explain why I can make the statement that Donald Trump will never be half the man that Barack Obama is. Setting aside either one's presidency and just looking at the two men as just human beings.

Trump’s Lies vs. Your Brain

God bless you all,
In Christ, ted
 
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Hi albion,

Yes, but President Obama didn't campaign on a statement that he wouldn't take any time off because he was going to be too busy fixing other people's mistakes.
Now, let's be fair. Regardless of what anyone thinks of President Trump's policies or personality, he's a workaholic, often holding meetings early in the morning after working late at night. He has not taken weeks at a time off on vacation like President Obama did.

Anyway, I like you Ted, so I'm going to make this my last reply on this one.
 
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Now, let's be fair. Regardless of what anyone thinks of President Trump's policies or personality, he's a workaholic, often holding meetings early in the morning after working late at night. He has not taken weeks at a time off on vacation like President Obama did.
I don't think the word "workaholic" means what you think it means. President Trump has spent about 25% of his Presidency on vacation so far. He doesn't need to take weeks off, he barely works as it is. :wave:
Donald Trump has spent a quarter of his time as President in Florida
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Hi guys,

Here's some more interesting little tidbits of how President Trump is bilking the American taxpayer:

How Trump can get paid for having the Secret Service protect his family

He actually charged the U.S. government 6 million dollars for the seats provided to his own Secret Service detail as he flew about on the campaign trail. He's billing the federal government for each and every one of his stays in his branded resorts along with all the rooms and food, etc. for his traveling detail. This weekend he stayed in one of his resorts in Virginia. I'm guess there was some infighting among his different resorts that Mar-a-Lago was getting all the taxpayer largess for his stays and other resorts wanted a piece of the pie. I believe that the latest count is that 18 people of his immediate and extended family are getting SS protection. The SS has already asked for a 60 million dollar increase in their protective services budget.

Are we great yet? I sure hope it comes soon so we can get this monkey off our backs. We've now got the richest and most expensive president we've ever had. I know during his campaign he said he wouldn't take the paycheck for the job, so there's a few hundred thousand he's letting us keep....Maybe.

I find it terribly odd that there isn't some grass roots movement up in arms about this. The citizenry have, for many years, been decrying the wasteful spending of taxpayer money. Funny that now there doesn't seem to be much being said about this gargantuan waste.

God bless you all
In Christ, ted
I need to get in on that Secret Service work.

I'd be have all inclusive resort stays every weekend and eating lobster and 2" thick tenderloin with every meal.
Don't think I'd even have the room for the eggs on my steak and eggs breakfest paid for by the taxpayers at a Trump resort.
 
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I need to get in on that Secret Service work.

I'd be have all inclusive resort stays every weekend and eating lobster and 2" thick tenderloin with every meal.
Don't think I'd even have the room for the eggs on my steak and eggs breakfest paid for by the taxpayers at a Trump resort.

Hi AHS,

Yeah, probably a pretty sweet job until someone starts shooting.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted
 
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Two things......
1. Bengazi. Secretary Clinton sent her asst to the media before all the facts had been collected and the asst either "lied" purposefully, or in err b/c she did not know that it was in fact a terrorist attack.
President Obama quickly went on record that it was a terrorist act, which in an of itself should have ended any investigation. Several CIA agents were killed, and we should be saddened by that fact, but Secretary Clinton and President Obama all but BEGGED Congress to provide additional security for embassies in several threatened locals.....my fellow Republicans in Congress shot it down for no other reason than what the admirable Speaker Boehner and dishonorable Sen Mitch McConnell admitted, that they would deny any requests from Obama soas to subvert his Presidency. SICKENING.

2. Your link to the $1.7 mil payment from the US to Iran is FAKE NEWS. PERIOD. FULL STOP.

Iranian interests, govt and private had money in the US, and when sanctions were revamped in 99, 01, 09, and 11, those assets were seized.
In 15, when President Obama began to finalize the renegotiations of their sanctioning, those sanctions were lifted and the monies freed up, allowing that money to remain in US banks or be sent back to Iran for re-distribution.

What the Iranina govt did with that money is not our business. It was THEIR MONEY, and Obama simply took the hold off off it.
Nice try...

 
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Oh goodness. Faux News says Hillary deliberately misled the White House into thinking the attack was led by protesters.
Jesse Jackson thinks President Obama should preemptively pardon Sec Clinton JIC, cause we all know the dishonorable Jesse Jackson (I won't call him Rev Jaxon b/c a Reverend is ordained by God, and I refuse to believe such) is an expert in US diplomatic legal matters.

As for the mother of the dead CIA agent. And the mother's of any US backed agents, soldiers, or auxiliaries, who have lost sons or daughters in terror attacks, I pray our Majesty, Christ Jesus grant them peace.
As for their anger at Sec Clinton......blame the morons who don't know that their Holy Qraan says that Christ Jesus is THEIR MESSIAH, and/or what it means for Him to be their Messiah, and what the Gospel actually means for them and their salvation by the precious Blood of their Messiah.

Hillary's assistant's lie, whether deliberate and coached was disturbing, and sad that President Obama had to address and correct the lie the next day.

However, every single day of this current Presidency, the POTUS has sent his surrogates out into the media to LIE to the American ppl.
Not to try to spare us from anger/grief/etc, but simply to boost his ego.

SAME SERPENT DIFFERENT DAY.
Huhmmm, whom are we talking about?

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Nice try...

I just want to reassert the FACT that Sec Clinton through President Obama asked Congress for MORE MONEY for security at SPECIFIC Embassies....Benghazi being at the TOP of the LIST, and Rep Boehner instructed the House to vote no right down the R line.
As a life long R, I abhor their decision, and as your video's ask, as to whether the inquiry's and subsequent investigations were politically motivated.......YES, they were.

Was there "lies" told to the American ppl, ABSOLUTELY.
Is it a crime for an Ambassador to lie to a news outlet irt an attack, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Had Amb Rice told either the committees under oath that a video sparked a protest and protesters then launched an attack, yes, a crime would have been committed. However, lying to Faux News, or at a Press Conference is no crime, lest Shawn Spicer would be buried beneath a Federal Penitentiary already.
 
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I just want to reassert the FACT that Sec Clinton through President Obama asked Congress for MORE MONEY for security at SPECIFIC Embassies....Benghazi being at the TOP of the LIST, and Rep Boehner instructed the House to vote no right down the R line.
As a life long R, I abhor their decision, and as your video's ask, as to whether the inquiry's and subsequent investigations were politically motivated.......YES, they were.

Was there "lies" told to the American ppl, ABSOLUTELY.
Is it a crime for an Ambassador to lie to a news outlet irt an attack, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Had Amb Rice told either the committees under oath that a video sparked a protest and protesters then launched an attack, yes, a crime would have been committed. However, lying to Faux News, or at a Press Conference is no crime, lest Shawn Spicer would be buried beneath a Federal Penitentiary already.

But this is what had happened. The government officials requested for reinforcement because they felt that something was going to go down. But instead of sending reinforcement, that they had told the troops to move out of there, without telling the four American workers. The four American could of have gotten on a plane and left , but they were thinking that reinforcement were coming to the rescue. And so they did have to stay there and wait for congress to vote.


Let’s start with Clinton’s personal approval of security conditions at the compound. By this point you are familiar with the stunning backwardness of the U.S. special mission’s so-called security posture. Guard towers were denied; a special reaction team was pulled from Libya’s hot zone; an aircraft was recalled. External protection of the compound was provided entirely by poorly trained, unarmed local Libyans who had virtually no capabilities to fend off armed attackers.
Read more at Benghazi story Hillary Clinton doesn’t want you to know

Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were in Benghazi as part of a security contractor force.
On September 11, they were ensconced in the safety of an annex location in another part of the city when they got word that the main consulate building was under fire and the diplomats there -- with an armed force of only nine people -- were overwhelmed by the deteriorating situation.
Doherty and Woods, along with other security personnel, left the secure annex and made their way to the chaotic scene, rounding up the consulate staff who were under attack and guiding them back to the second safe building.
Their grim task also included recovering the body of computer expert Sean Smith, who had succumbed to smoke inhalation from a fire ignited by the attackers. The sources said diesel fuel was used to set the fire and the thick, black smoke created by the accelerant added to the confusion on the ground. Former Navy SEALs died after coming to the aid of others - CNN.com

Although the Obama Administration intentionally gutted security at the consulate prior to the staged kidnapping, former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty disobeyed direct orders to stand down, saved American lives, single-handedly killed scores of attackers…and the attackers, believing that the Obama had betrayed them, tortured Ambassador Chris Stevens and dragged his body through the streets. Top Admiral Says Obama Conspired With America’s Enemies to Kidnap Chris Stevens [Video]

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Closed. This got really ugly, and way off topic. Seriously folks, you need to learn how to debate without the mudslinging. It's not pretty.


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