The Great Deception ??

KarlX said:

What if ( alleged ) aliens landed and claimed to be the source of all life on this planet , what are your thoughts on this ?
Could this be the great deception ?

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My thought on this is that I would agree, but that would just be the culmination of the great deception. Even Drudge linked to a column a few days ago demonstrating that UFO sightings are at an all-time high.

Just think of what went into building this thing. Before this event, the idea of panspermia would need to be planted as a viable option for this event to even make sense, but that's exactly where many of the lost in the world have been funneled throughout the last few centuries.

Panspermia relies on Darwinian Evolution. Well, the scraps of it at least. As the theory disintegrates on this world, the natural path for the proponents is not to toss out the theory, but to transfer it elsewhere. In other words, somewhere out there other life evolved by a type of Darwinian evolution and visited us in the past (ancient aliens) and we are their little science experiment.

Evolution is a theory dependent on a heliocentric model of the universe and relied on the musings of Copernicus and Galileo to convince themselves that we are just floating around on an insignificant ball, in an insignificant galaxy among a huge expanse of almost nothing.

What is making this deception so great is that it actually started laying its foundations almost 500 years ago. Too many people are invested in that model to ever think about getting out of it and will fight to the death to remain in it.

The whole UFO and aliens concept is a Satanic deception, aimed at giving humans an alternative to the truth of God's Creation.
Believing any of that rubbish is contrary to the Bible and therefore a sin.

I think it will be THE great deception. It is the same lie that was in the Garden.

KarlX said:

What if ( alleged ) aliens landed and claimed to be the source of all life on this planet , what are your thoughts on this ?
Could this be the great deception ?

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The problem with this scenario there is not in bible prophecy evidence of beings from outer space coming to this planet, in extraterrestrial craft, offering such claims. The only thing that would hint at such a scenario is in Daniel 2, it says they would not cleave to the seed of man.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

I am looking at more as different cultures not mixing. I asked a Jewish rabbi how they interpreted that verse in Hebrew, and he also said it meant different cultures not mixing together (harmoniously, implied).

As far as the great deception that God sends in 2Thessalonians2, it will be that God will bring the slain man of sin back to life (in Isaiah 14:18-20) - which to them who will be inclined to do so because they reject Jesus, will believe the person's lie that he is God - and has conquered death. More likely, the person will be claiming that he has achieved God-hood.

The other point working against the space alien scenario is the insertion point into the bible prophecy scenario. What is in bible prophecy is Gog/Magog will take place, then the 7 year, seventieth week, follows. So there is not space aliens anywhere up to that point... only muslim nations and Russia. So I don't see how the space alien scenario would fit in.

Douggg said:

The problem with this scenario there is not in bible prophecy evidence of beings from outer space coming to this planet, in extraterrestrial craft, offering such claims. The only thing that would hint at such a scenario is in Daniel 2, it says they would not cleave to the seed of man.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

I am looking at more as different cultures not mixing. I asked a Jewish rabbi how they interpreted that verse in Hebrew, and he also said it meant different cultures not mixing together (harmoniously, implied).

As far as the great deception that God sends in 2Thessalonians2, it will be that God will bring the slain man of sin back to life (in Isaiah 14:18-20) - which to them who will be inclined to do so because they reject Jesus, will believe the person's lie that he is God - and has conquered death. More likely, the person will be claiming that he has achieved God-hood.

The other point working against the space alien scenario is the insertion point into the bible prophecy scenario. What is in bible prophecy is Gog/Magog will take place, then the 7 year, seventieth week, follows. So there is not space aliens anywhere up to that point... only muslim nations and Russia. So I don't see how the space alien scenario would fit in.

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Because Christianity is ideological, not genetic or nation-based, the prohibition against worshiping 'foreign gods' has to be 'elevated' in a manner of speaking, to mean 'alien'/ foreign, because any earthly nationality may be a Christian.

So, yes, some future faction of humanity will be worshiping a (faked) alien.

But, all that said, an antichrist will want to appear to be an 'enemy of demons', which conveniently enough, 'aliens' are supposed to be 'Nephilim demons'.

Also, the pharmakia of revelation 18:23 is the manner by which the deception is foisted upon the public. Drugs for sorcery. Depending upon the drug effect, we could say that the 'out of body' experience of say, ketamine, could be interpreted as a 'failed rapture'. As if the faked 'aliens' are 'rapturing' people.

Hard to say at this point.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

I think it will be THE great deception. It is the same lie that was in the Garden.

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Agree "you shall surly not die"

It will not be aliens, but fallen angels manifesting physically, as in the days of Noah.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

It will not be aliens, but fallen angels manifesting physically, as in the days of Noah.

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Those evil angels are manifesting themselves today as peoples dead loved ones in support of the serpents lie.

tranquil said:

Because Christianity is ideological, not genetic or nation-based, the prohibition against worshiping 'foreign gods' has to be 'elevated' in a manner of speaking, to mean 'alien'/ foreign, because any earthly nationality may be a Christian.

So, yes, some future faction of humanity will be worshiping a (faked) alien.

But, all that said, an antichrist will want to appear to be an 'enemy of demons', which conveniently enough, 'aliens' are supposed to be 'Nephilim demons'.

Also, the pharmakia of revelation 18:23 is the manner by which the deception is foisted upon the public. Drugs for sorcery. Depending upon the drug effect, we could say that the 'out of body' experience of say, ketamine, could be interpreted as a 'failed rapture'. As if the faked 'aliens' are 'rapturing' people.

Hard to say at this point.

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okay, but where are you finding aliens coming from outer space or another dimension as a key feature, repeated over and over in bible prophecy, specific passages?

First who is the great deception aimed at? ...Can't be us because we already know about it and that's why we are discussing it here , so it must be the jews because they don't read the new testament as we do.
They once said to Jesus to show them a sign from heaven which he wouldn't , but the book of revelation (which they don't read) tells us that there is coming a fella who will do just that , he makes fire come down from heaven to the earth and that it shall be a sign.
Add to this a fella sitting in the temple of God claiming that he is God , well that can be only be one place and one people that are being deceived here.

But if people want to talk about UFO's then do your own personal study on that so called star of Bethlehem , and if you do your study carefully you will come to "THE STAR OF NAZARITH". but was it a star?

Brian45 said:

First who is the great deception aimed at? ...Can't be us because we already know about it and that's why we are discussing it here , so it must be the jews because they don't read the new testament as we do.
They once said to Jesus to show them a sign from heaven which he wouldn't , but the book of revelation (which they don't read) tells us that there is coming a fella who will do just that , he makes fire come down from heaven to the earth and that it shall be a sign.
Add to this a fella sitting in the temple of God claiming that he is God , well that can be only be one place and one people that are being deceived here.

But if people want to talk about UFO's then do your own personal study on that so called star of Bethlehem , and if you do your study carefully you will come to "THE STAR OF NAZARITH". but was it a star?

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It won't be the Jews. Because the great deception is tied to the man of sin's claim to be God, which the deception comes when he is killed and brought back to life - which will appear to the world that his initial claim was true and that he has overcome death, which is the essence of what is in Revelation 13.

When the person goes into the temple, sits, claiming to be God - it will be totally unexpected as the Jews will be saying peace and safety thinking the person is their messiah.

The act he commits will be the transgression of desolation - which will mortify the Jews to the horror of their mistake in having embraced as their messiah - and they will turn to Jesus, which is why in Revelation 12:17 it says they have the testimony of Jesus.

Them who fall away from Christianity during the Antichrist's initial 3 years plus, as the King of Israel, will be among them who will be deceived when he surprisingly claims to be be God - most likely, claim to have achieved God-hood.

Douggg , It's only religious people who are looking for their God , secular society couldn't care less.

Douggg said:

okay, but where are you finding aliens coming from outer space or another dimension as a key feature, repeated over and over in bible prophecy, specific passages?

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Doug, the Bible calls them angels. It is we that call them aliens.They are all over the Bible.

That story of Annunaki Alien created mankind on earth was created by Zecharia Sitchin and is meant to deceive mankind.

We understand from the book of Henoch that fallen angels have rebelled against God and copulated with women of men, Sitchin call these fallen angels as Annunaki who created mankind.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

Douggg said:

The problem with this scenario there is not in bible prophecy evidence of beings from outer space coming to this planet, in extraterrestrial craft, offering such claims. The only thing that would hint at such a scenario is in Daniel 2, it says they would not cleave to the seed of man.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

I am looking at more as different cultures not mixing. I asked a Jewish rabbi how they interpreted that verse in Hebrew, and he also said it meant different cultures not mixing together (harmoniously, implied).

As far as the great deception that God sends in 2Thessalonians2, it will be that God will bring the slain man of sin back to life (in Isaiah 14:18-20) - which to them who will be inclined to do so because they reject Jesus, will believe the person's lie that he is God - and has conquered death. More likely, the person will be claiming that he has achieved God-hood.

The other point working against the space alien scenario is the insertion point into the bible prophecy scenario. What is in bible prophecy is Gog/Magog will take place, then the 7 year, seventieth week, follows. So there is not space aliens anywhere up to that point... only muslim nations and Russia. So I don't see how the space alien scenario would fit in.

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I would have to disagree with the Jewish Rabbi. A plain reading of that verse shows two distinct parties, the seed of men and something not the seed of men. A mingling of cultures would involve all parties being seeds of men.

There's also Luke 21:26 which has been seen by many over the years to indicate the arrival of something from the heavens to the earth. Also, keep in mind, this is a deception. God isn't going to tell us in some footnote only Christians can see, "Psst. It's fallen beings posing as aliens."

KarlX said:

What if ( alleged ) aliens landed and claimed to be the source of all life on this planet , what are your thoughts on this ?
Could this be the great deception ?

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Give how the masses are being conditioned to accept the notion, I'd have to think so.

I can envision a scenario where these false prophets and false Christs who perform great signs and wonders claim to be the leaders of their respective planets and have come to Earth, along with the false prophet, to straighten things out; and that they point to the failure of the prophet Jesus to rule his planet as the reason. It also wouldn't surprise me if Judas reemerged to help “set the record straight”. He is the son of perdition after all.

Regardless of the pretense, it will determine who loves God. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 It's nothing new. It just hasn't been seen for a long, long time.

It offends the sensibilities of some people to think that humans and angels mixed. That is why people cannot believe the son of perdition might be a hybrid being. It has been my thought for years that the transhuman agenda will be the dominant force on the Earth toward the end. People are already modifying themselves in various ways and scientists are blending animals and humans creating chimeras. The evil that is being done on Earth today is covert. But, the time is coming when enhanced/altered people will be the norm.

SeventyOne said:

I would have to disagree with the Jewish Rabbi. A plain reading of that verse shows two distinct parties, the seed of men and something not the seed of men. A mingling of cultures would involve all parties being seeds of men.

There's also Luke 21:26 which has been seen by many over the years to indicate the arrival of something from the heavens to the earth. Also, keep in mind, this is a deception. God isn't going to tell us in some footnote only Christians can see, "Psst. It's fallen beings posing as aliens."

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EXACTLY!

Handmaid for Jesus said:

It offends the sensibilities of some people to think that humans and angels mixed. That is why people cannot believe the son of perdition might be a hybrid being. It has bee my thought for years that the transhuman agenda will be the dominant force on the Earth toward the end. People are already modifying themselves in various ways and scientists are blending animals and humans creating chimeras. The evil that is being done on Earth today is covert. But, the time is coming when enhanced/altered people will be the norm.

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Hybrid or possessed, it will be a time when all the deception of wickedness is on display.