ISLAM WILL DOMINATE THE WORLD

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Do you have any actual evidence as to the prevalence with which this belief is held in the general population?

I have some. From a Pew Report from 2016:
Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world

Another:
Minority Issues? Over 70% of Muslims Support Sharia Law, 90% Support Execution of Apostates – Statistics

The Jihadist are the real Muslims... they actually believe in the Quran, the volumes of Hadiths, and Sharia Law. "Moderate" Muslims are apostates of the Islam of Muhammed.
 
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I have some. From a Pew Report from 2016:
Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world

Another:
Minority Issues? Over 70% of Muslims Support Sharia Law, 90% Support Execution of Apostates – Statistics

The Jihadist are the real Muslims... they actually believe in the Quran, the volumes of Hadiths, and Sharia Law. "Moderate" Muslims are apostates of the Islam of Muhammed.


Just like protestants/non catholics are apostates to the pope in Rome...right?
 
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Just like protestants/non catholics are apostates to the pope in Rome...right?
No, I don't think that the comparison is valid.
It is certainly not Catholic teaching that other Christians are apostates at any rate.
 
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I don't understand why people try to explain away Islamic violence today by referencing the acts of Christians hundreds of years ago.

Are we supposed to just endure this until Muslims decide to have an Enlightenment and Reformation of their own? Because they were doing just as many horrible things then as now:

 
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The same as protestan



Just like protestants/non catholics are apostates to the pope in Rome...right?

When one denies the Essential Doctrines of one's supposed faith based on the sacred writings of that faith, then one is an apostate of that faith (regardless of what that religion or belief system is).
Examples:
A proclaimed "atheist" who believes God exists.
Liberal "Christians" who deny the deity of Christ, His virgin birth, His bodily resurrection, etc.
"Muslims" who deny the Hadiths and/or Sharia Law.
 
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I don't understand why people try to explain away Islamic violence today by referencing the acts of Christians hundreds of years ago.

Are we supposed to just endure this until Muslims decide to have an Enlightenment and Reformation of their own? Because they were doing just as many horrible things then as now:

Whatever the intent of such people, the net effect is to justify violence by making the case that Christianity is reprehensible and merits the abuse of the jihadis.
It is Christian nihilism.
 
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True, but in the meantime maybe we should keep our heads!

I have not read through the entire thread yet, but when i saw this post the following verse popped into mind:

"LUKE 9:24 ~ AMP
For whoever wishes to save his life [in this world] will [eventually] lose it [through death], but whoever loses his life [in this world] for My sake, he is the one who will save it [from the consequences of sin and separation from God]."

It's a scary thought for those of us (including me) who dwells in the world and gives in to the temptations of the flesh, but in my pursuit to become a better person i have been clinging to the scripture that shares more about the Fruits of the Spirit.

Because it served me better, i have (unsuccessfully) tried to ignore the verses that follows Gal 5:23 ...

24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
But it has been weighing on my mind more and more as i battle every day with my vices that's tied to these desires of the flesh.

I have no doubt that i am following the "right" God, as scripture also advises that you will know a tree by it's fruit (my guideline when trying to discern whether i must believe the teachings of someone who claims they are Christian).

All those in my life who bears good fruits, are those who glorify God through with their lives in itself, never bible bashing or proclaiming their faith with idle words, but by their actions.

I am still learning more about where God stands on this thread's topic, but my limited understanding - if it's assumed that they (Islamists) have been told about Jesus and have this knowledge, but still chooses to persist in their religion, is that they are guilty of the unforgivable sin of blasphemy.

I believe the more we grow in our personal relationship with God, the easier it would become to live by the Spirit and hopefully one day when i stand accused of being a Christian and having to deny Christ or lose my life, i will be stronger in spirit than what i am in my desires to satisfy my perishable flesh. :prayer:

Apologies if this veered of course of this topic, but just had to share my two pennies as i always get excited when scripture pops into mind :)
 
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Is Somalia a safe haven for terrorists?
On one hand, Somalia is a chaotic, poor, battle-weary Muslim country with no central government and a long, unguarded coastline. Its porous borders mean that individuals can enter without visas, and once inside the country, enjoy an almost complete lack of law enforcement. Somalia has long served as a passageway from Africa to the Middle East based on its coastal location on the Horn of Africa, just a boat ride away from Yemen. These aspects make Somalia a desirable haven for transnational terrorists, something al-Qaeda has tried to capitalize on before, and is trying again now. Terrorism Havens: Somalia

George Soros, the Hungarian-American business mogul, has become one of the most aggressive foreign investors in African economies over the past few decades. While many predict a decrease in investment due to regional instabilities and resonating Ebola fears, Soros says African investment remains “one of the few bright spots on the gloomy global economic horizon.” As one of the richest people in the world with a proven track record of investment profits, Soros might just know what he’s talking about.

Sources: UHY.com, CNBC.com, HeliosInvestment.com, ProfitConfidential.com, Biography.com, OpenSocietyFoundations.org


- See more at: 12 Reasons Billionaire George Soros Is Investing In Africa


Girls recently kidnapped in Nigeria forced to marry extremists, reports say

CIA Links Top Hillary Donor George Soros to Terrorist Bombing

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That's what they are telling us will happen. Why do we keep ignoring them?

Islam will dominate the world - Google Search
I read a book a couple of years ago about Islam (sorry don't have it with me re. the title and author). The book went through a lot of evidence to support the theory that Islam is the Beast. I do not think that Islam is the beast but I must say the material in the book, based on Bible prophecy, was very impressive. I do believe however that Islam is a TYPE of beast. Bible prophecy also says of course that God will destroy the beast. Because of this, I believe God will destroy Islam as a religion.
Why did God allow 9/11 to happen? When it did happen, everyone, even non religious people, were asking this question.
The internet is full of information regarding 9/11 actually being the birthdate of Jesus. If that is true, then why indeed did God allow the tragic events of 9/11?
By the way if 9/11 was His date of birth, then according to medical text books, Mary's LMP would have been Dec 4 and she would have ovulated 2 weeks later on Dec 18, 7 days prior to Dec 25. Embryology text books state that the fertilized egg becomes implanted in the uterus 7 days after ovulation. This come to exactly Dec 25.
Who can imagine anything more awful than the Son of God, the Creator, the Word of God by which all things exist, being hung naked and humiliated on a cross. On the other hand what could be more awesome than His resurrection on the 3rd day making a way for salvation for all mankind. God is in the business of turning everything around for His Glory, even the most evil things that he allows satan to get away with. I am confident the God has an answer for 9/11.
Watch for 9/11/19. 91119.

These prophecies have not yet been fulfilled but I think they will be soon:

Psalm 46: 1 - 11 Isaiah 63: 1 - 6 Habakkuk 3: 2 – 11


Habakkuk 3: 2 I have heard all about you, Lord.
I am filled with awe by your amazing works.
In this time of our deep need,
help us again as you did in years gone by.
And in your anger,
remember your mercy.

Psalm 46: 1 God is our refuge and strength,
always ready to help in times of trouble.

Habakkuk 3: 3. I see God moving across the deserts from Edom,
the Holy One coming from Mount Paran.

His brilliant splendor fills the heavens,
and the earth is filled with his praise.

Isaiah 63: 1a. Who is this who comes from Edom,
from the city of Bozrah,
with his clothing stained red?
Who is this in royal robes,
marching in his great strength?
Habakkuk 3: 4a. His coming is as brilliant as the sunrise.

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Isaiah 63: 1b “It is I, the Lord, announcing your salvation!
It is I, the Lord, who has the power to save!”
Isaiah 63: 2 Why are your clothes so red,
as if you have been treading out grapes?

3 “I have been treading the winepress alone;
no one was there to help me.
In my anger I have trampled my enemies
as if they were grapes.
In my fury I have trampled my foes.
Their blood has stained my clothes.

4 For the time has come for me to avenge my people,
to ransom them from their oppressors.

5 I was amazed to see that no one intervened
to help the oppressed.
So I myself stepped in to save them with my strong arm,
and my wrath sustained me.

Habakkuk 3: 5 Pestilence marches before him;
plague follows close behind.

6 When he stops, the earth shakes.

Habakkuk 3: 11 The sun and moon stood still in the sky

Psalm 46: 10 “Be still, and know that I am God!

Habakkuk 3: 4b Rays of light flash from his hands,
where his awesome power is hidden. NLT
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(4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power. KJV)
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Psalm 46: 6 The nations are in chaos,
and their kingdoms crumble!

Habakkuk 3: 11b as your brilliant arrows flew
and your glittering spear flashed.

Psalm 46: 6b God’s voice thunders,

and the earth melts!

Habakkuk 3: 6b When he looks, the nations tremble.

7 I see the people of Cushan in distress,
and the nation of Midian trembling in terror.

Habakkuk 3: 6c He shatters the everlasting mountains
and levels the eternal hills.

He is the Eternal One!

Isaiah 63: 6 I crushed the nations in my anger
and made them stagger and fall to the ground,
spilling their blood upon the earth

Habakkuk 3: 8 Was it in anger, Lord, that you struck the rivers
and parted the sea?
Were you displeased with them?
No, you were sending your chariots of salvation!

Habakkuk 3: 12 You marched across the land in anger
and trampled the nations in your fury.

Habakkuk 3: 15 You trampled the sea with your horses,
and the mighty waters piled high.


Habakkuk 3: 9 You brandished your bow
and your quiver of arrows.
You split open the earth with flowing rivers.

Psalm 46: 4 A river brings joy to the city of our God,
the sacred home of the Most High.
5 God dwells in that city; it cannot be destroyed.
From the very break of day, God will protect it.

Habakkuk 3: 10 The mountains watched and trembled.
Onward swept the raging waters.
The mighty deep cried out,
lifting its hands in submission.

Habakkuk 3: 13 You went out to rescue your chosen people,
to save your anointed ones.

You crushed the heads of the wicked

and STRIPPED THEIR BONES from head to toe.

14 With his own weapons,
you destroyed the chief of those
who rushed out like a whirlwind,
thinking Israel would be easy prey.

Psalm 46: 7 The Lord of Heaven’s Armies is here among us;
the God of Israel is our fortress. Interlude

Psalm 46: 8 Come, see the glorious works of the Lord:
See how he brings destruction upon the world.

Habakkuk 3:2
And in your anger,
remember your mercy.

Isaiah 26: 19 Those who died will live;
their bodies will rise again!
Those who sleep in the earth
will wake up and sing for joy!
When your life-giving light falls on the night mist,
on the land of the departed spirits who had fallen! (Interlinear)
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Psalm 46: 2 So we will not fear when earthquakes come
and the mountains crumble into the sea.

3 Let the oceans roar and foam.
Let the mountains tremble as the waters surge! Interlude

Psalm 46: 9 He causes wars to end throughout the earth.
He breaks the bow and snaps the spear;
he burns the shields with fire.

10b I will be honored by every nation.
I will be honored throughout the world.”

11 The Lord of Heaven’s Armies is here among us;
the God of Israel is our fortress.
 
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No, I don't think that the comparison is valid.
It is certainly not Catholic teaching that other Christians are apostates at any rate.

Well, the Catholics certainly killed at lot of Christians that didn't meet their standards (look up the Armenian Christians in the Crusades). They excommunicated all the Reformers. Just because they are more inclusive now, doesn't mean they have always been. They excommunicated all the early Reformers, and killed a lot of them. They killed, or tried to kill, everyone who just wanted to translate the Bible, the Holy Book of all Christians, into the people's native language (instead of the Latin Vulgate, which was the language of priests and educated people).

That is not to say the Reformers became any better. What started out as a "self defense" from the Catholics became a war... which I blame blame largely on "Replacement Theology" (the backbone of Amillennial eschatology and the governance of the Catholic and many Reformed churches... that the promises God made to Israel of a physical kingdom is now "spiritualized" and applied to "the Church" which rules under Christ (which extended to civil government as well)).

I think "Replacement Theology" has been been the source of some of the biggest evils in Christianity.

But, unlike the current 'woose' of a pope (and some of the modern liberal Reformed "churches"), the Catholics and the Reformed churches used to stand in solidarity together in condemning Islam!
 
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But, unlike the current 'woose' of a pope (and some of the modern liberal Reformed "churches"), the Catholics and the Reformed churches used to stand in solidarity together in condemning Islam!
Pope Francis is just your typical leftist.
Catholicism has had its share of fascists too.
Neither the nihilism of the left, nor the fascism of the right, have within them the possibility of an effective response to Islam.
The proper response to Islam, the religion of submission, is to defend and promote freedom, which is Christ's greatest gift to the Western civilization which embraced the message of our Redeemer.
We are a redeemed people, a free people. To engage in endless rounds of self-deprecating apologies is what the left does.
It is not a proper Christian response to grovel. There is no grovelling in true repentance.
Apologize once, and then move on. If others ignore Christ's call to forigiveness to the order of seventy times seven, then that is on them, and not on the repentant.

Westerners will have to decide whether they believe in freedom, or not. Christians will have to decide whether there greatest enemy is "Torquemada il grande inquisitore" of bygone centuries, or the rape jihad being waged against women in Europe today.
Would you prefer I grovel though?
 
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I came here to get away from talk of politics and other religions like Islam, which has become a political issue and really, always has been.

That so many people are blind to the horror perpetrated in the name of Islam is infuriating. Not all religions are created equal. The fruits of Islam are the absolute worst in all of history, and anyone defending Islam is no friend of mine :)
 
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Pope Francis is just your typical leftist.
Catholicism has had its share of fascists too.
Neither the nihilism of the left, nor the fascism of the right, have within them the possibility of an effective response to Islam.
The proper response to Islam, the religion of submission, is to defend and promote freedom, which is Christ's greatest gift to the Western civilization which embraced the message of our Redeemer.
We are a redeemed people, a free people. To engage in endless rounds of self-deprecating apologies is what the left does.
It is not a proper Christian response to grovel. There is no grovelling in true repentance.
Apologize once, and then move on. If others ignore Christ's call to forigiveness to the order of seventy times seven, then that is on them, and not on the repentant.

Westerners will have to decide whether they believe in freedom, or not. Christians will have to decide whether there greatest enemy is "Torquemada il grande inquisitore" of bygone centuries, or the rape jihad being waged against women in Europe today.
Would you prefer I grovel though?

Do you even know how people define 'left' and 'right' in politics now? Apparently not. Put simply, the 'left' wants more government to control things, more socialism. The 'right' wants less government, less government control over people.

'Fascism' is something that grew from Hitler's NAZI party (the word Nazi being a derivative of the German words for 'National Socialist' party). It's the left, in case you haven't been paying attention, who wants socialism. It is the left who wants to silence any opposition to their views! It is the left who are the fascist, not the right!
Let me guess which side of the fence you are on... the left?

The greatest 'threat' to Christianity is (1) the liberalism that is running amuk in both Catholicism and the Reformed churches and (2) the tolerance of the ideology we call Islam (and that includes the apostates that most refer to as 'moderates').
 
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Whatever the intent of such people, the net effect is to justify violence by making the case that Christianity is reprehensible and merits the abuse of the jihadis.
It is Christian nihilism.

The "civilzed" Western nations (mostly Christian) have had to defend themselves from the aggressive Muslims ever since Islam became powerful. The Crusades, for example, were initially started as a defense against Islam. If these nations had not defended themselves, all of Europe would have been made part of the Islamic empire centuries ago... long before America was even founded.

When the Shah of Iran was overthrown, the people were given a right to vote. They overwhelmingly voted for Sharia Law when they voted for an Islamic fundamentalist to lead them, the Ayatollah Khomeini.

Islam has always been at war with its non-Islamic neighbors... this has been going on since the time of Muhammed (who, incidentally, is accredited with seeing that the Laws he demanded to be followed were codified and written down... we call them Sharia Law now).

Learn some history why don't you!
 
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