Evil Spiritual Forces

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So I had what I felt was an encounter with Satan recently. I felt it was a last ditch effort with something I have struggled heavily with my whole life. Fear.

I was attacked one night by invisible claws scratching and clawing at my head and heart, but they couldn't be seen or get in. I was initially very afraid, but after I had a thought to just let them do so and they would quickly go away. I soon fell into a deep and peaceful sleep even though I wanted to share this account after it was over.

The next night I was lying down and I was suddenly very afraid and unsure of my faith and shadows were dancing on the wall of my bedroom. A kitchen utensil fell off the desk and hit a glass. I kept on hearing steps. I drifted off to sleep and suddenly I had something like a seizure ("sleep paralysis"?) where my whole body felt like it was being shaken violently and then I glimpsed a dark shadowy man standing right in front of my bed. and when I opened my eyes again he was gone.

I was very afraid so I started singing and playing worship songs and praying for comfort because I didn't know if it was all in my mind. I finally was able to fall asleep in peace.

This is the conclusion I came to in my personal Faith.

"To anticipate an evil spiritual attack is an invitation TO the forces of evil. To anticipate the protection of our Father in Heaven is an expulsion OF the forces of evil."

I don't think I have to worry about this happening again because I know who I belong to with confidence now. This conclusion I came to may or may not be true but I had witnessed a demonic possession of a young boy in a mental ward (many years ago) who would "blackout" and charge at people snarling because he said to me when I asked about it "I absorb all the negative energy around me" Mark 5:9. He was very calm and timid otherwise. He would never hurt anyone. When he did snap he would never remember anything that happened even if he had been hit in self-defence. It's like he had lost complete control and memory of his body for the time he "blacked out".

This was a place where unstable youth would commit suicide attempts, self-mutilation, and violence and the Doctors and nurses had no idea how to help some of them but prescribe various medications in vain. I felt like it was a den of evil now that I look back at it from a better understanding of discernment through Holy Spirit. A breeding ground for demonic activity. There is a very big difference I feel between demonic oppression and demonic possession. I have been privileged to perceive most all stages as a child.

I think "The Pilgrim's Progress" by John Bunyan is spot on in most all parts. Especially when I look at Luke 8:26-39 (Matthew 8:28-34; Mark 5:1-20) Matthew 10:8 and how he always refers to the dead as simply "sleeping" (Lazarus, Little girl etc..). I personally think it's folly to discount the existence of evil forces as it is very relevant to our ministry of servitude to others. This is just my stand on it.

Concerning the casting out of demons/devils, my question is this to those who have been to various parts of the globe and have seen and dealt with this stuff as well through field experience:

Do you believe it's nigh impossible to perceive evil spiritual forces when we are alone? Does it only happen when we interact with others? Sorry if this is the wrong forum, I find the Spiritual realm very interesting as one who has become very aware of its reality (Ephesians 6:10-20) specifically. This was hastily typed.
 
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I tend to review all the possibilities, and conclude the less tangible conclusions last and only when there is evidence that is not the absence of evidence. Of these type of last conclusions I have found that sometimes, spiritual things do happen, spirits do interact with human beings, and sometimes it is something within us.
 
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I tend to review all the possibilities, and conclude the less tangible conclusions last and only when there is evidence that is not the absence of evidence. Of these type of last conclusions I have found that sometimes, spiritual things do happen, spirits do interact with human beings, and sometimes it is something within us.
Thanks for you feedback friend!
 
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I tend to review all the possibilities, and conclude the less tangible conclusions last and only when there is evidence that is not the absence of evidence. Of these type of last conclusions I have found that sometimes, spiritual things do happen, spirits do interact with human beings, and sometimes it is something within us.

Also Holy Spirit really likes "Remember to be like little children, Jesus taught this for a good reason" :)
 
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Hello brother,
I read your post on my thread on fasting. I have yet to watch those videos you've posted, and I just want you to know that I so appreciate you taking the time to reply and for gathering all of those resources. I, too, am fond of Oceans by Hillsong. Such a beautiful song : ) I'll have to pay more attention to the lyrics. Also, I'm sorry for some of the stuff you've experienced. I haven't quite experienced the spiritual realm like you have..I would say that my experiences are practically nothing compared to yours. Fear definitely plays a big role in their manifestations. As to your question:
Do you believe it's nigh impossible to perceive evil spiritual forces when we are alone? Does it only happen when we interact with others?

I believe it's definitely possible to perceive evil spiritual forces when we're alone. I think isolation is the platform of their manifestations. It can also happen when interacting with others, in my experiences. I've found it helpful to read His Word/sing and pray in the morning when I wake up, before I go out in public, and before I sleep. Drawing close to God in those ways, I find, helps to dispel? them for awhile.. even if it's temporary. It honestly makes a huge difference. Don't get me wrong..I would love to get rid of them for good..but even previous fastings that I've done have not worked. Perhaps it's my lack of faith? But even in those fastings, I am sure I had faith. Enough faith to be confident that God will indeed cast them into the pit.
But.. sadly still deal with the oppression. Mind you, to a lesser degree.
 
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Is it possible for a christian to have a demon/unclean spirit?

I believe it's possible to be attacked without Faith. Look at Paul 2 Corinthians 12:1-10. With greater works in the Spirit comes greater susceptibility to Pride. That is the struggle for those in spiritual maturity. So I feel it's important not to share everything we see, hear, or do to prevent arrogance. Humility becomes more and more important. This is just my experience. It's not easy on our own.

Yes, I believe it's possible to be attacked. No, it's not possible to be overcome with the only possible exception being the son of destruction (Anti-Christ) spoken of in John 17:12 This is from what I understand. I am speaking of apostasy after complete spiritual maturity has been reached and not prior Hebrews 6:1-12. John 17:1-26. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This will not happen until the coming of Jesus to overcome him. Preterism would argue against this but I don't believe THAT for an instant.
 
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I believe it's possible to be attacked without Faith. Look at Paul 2 Corinthians 12:1-10. With greater works in the Spirit comes greater susceptibility to Pride. That is the struggle for those in spiritual maturity. So I feel it's important not to share everything we see, hear, or do to prevent arrogance. Humility becomes more and more important. This is just my experience. It's not easy on our own.

Yes, I believe it's possible to be attacked. No, it's not possible to be overcome with the only possible exception being the son of destruction (Anti-Christ) spoken of in John 17:12 This is from what I understand. I am speaking of apostasy after complete spiritual maturity has been reached and not prior Hebrews 6:1-12. John 17:1-26. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This will not happen until the coming of Jesus to overcome him. Preterism would argue against this but I don't believe THAT for an instant.



To your understanding, what is a demon/unclean spirit?
 
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To your understanding, what is a demon/unclean spirit?

Anything that is causing long lasting unhappiness distress depression or sadness. Although it is important to remember we are not perfect. We are allowed to feel these things. 2 Corinthians 12:9
 
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Anything that is causing long lasting unhappiness distress depression or sadness. Although it is important to remember we are not perfect. We are allowed to feel these things. 2 Corinthians 12:9



Would it be fair to say, that any spirit that does not come from God, is an unclean spirit/demon?
 
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Is it possible for a christian to have a demon/unclean spirit?

Can a Christian be a drug addict?

They can be demonised but not possessed. I recommend the late Derek Prince's you tube sermons on the matter.

In the Bible the only example of full possession was that of the maniac of Gadara. The KJV wrongly translates demonised for possessed hence the confusion in the Anglosphere.
 
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Is it possible for a christian to have a demon/unclean spirit?
Yes and no
Yes via unrepentant sin.
No if you view an unrepentant person as a non christian .
So the answer is perceptional.

Can a human being - religious labels removed - have an evil spirit,be sick,tormented,oppressed,imprisoned,
deceived by sin -yes certainly . and the remedy is to cast it out :)
 
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We live in a physical as well as a spiritual world. Have you ever heard of spiritual warfare?

I believe your story of being attacked by entities.

Evil entities can be contained through prayer and taking certain actions, such as going to church, interacting with other good Christians, reading the Bible, etc. As far as my experiences have been, I realized that actions involving Christ as Our Savior and thinking thoughts pertaining to Christ have helped tremendously.

One sticky point is that if these so-called entities are causing voices in your head or visual hallucinations wherever you go, I would seek medical help. Such interference causing inability to perform daily routines and activities is bordering mental illness and such so-called entities are not spirits, they are hallucinations. Medications do help in such cases.

Evil entities are usually location specific, such as a house, a closed hospital, closed facility, etc, whereas mental illness is not- one hears or sees things that nobody else does everywhere one goes.
 
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We live in a physical as well as a spiritual world. Have you ever heard of spiritual warfare?

I believe your story of being attacked by entities.

Evil entities can be contained through prayer and taking certain actions, such as going to church, interacting with other good Christians, reading the Bible, etc. As far as my experiences have been, I realized that actions involving Christ as Our Savior and thinking thoughts pertaining to Christ have helped tremendously.

One sticky point is that if these entities are causing voices in your head or visual hallucinations wherever you go, I would seek medical help. Such interference causing inability to perform daily routines and activities is bordering mental illness.
Medications do help in such cases.

Evil entities are usually location specific, such as a house, a closed hospital, closed facility, etc, whereas mental illness is not- one hears or sees things that nobody else does everywhere one goes.
This is going to come over harsh..
But could you give a single scripture which instructs to go to worldly meds as a remedy for demonic opression ?

If your on them ,seek to get off them .be wise about it.
There is usually a weaning period. But there is nothing the devil loves more then christians imprisoned to medications..
That..is not the will of God.

"I came that you might have life and that abundantly"
 
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You did not read my post correctly.

Mental illness is not demonic possession. It is a serious illness that requires at times medication. It causes disability with performing daily activities and routines.

Demonic possession on the other hand is not mental illness. It is spiritual warfare and is usually location specific. People can be attacked by evil entities and feel possessed. However, if they leave the location, they are no longer bothered by them and can go on to do their daily activities.

Please don't advise those that mental illness is demonic possession. It is not. They are separate conditions. I suggest to you to not also tell one to go off one's medications, unless you have medical training and are licensed to practice medicine. It is dangerous for people with mental illnesses to go off medications if they are being prescribed them by a licensed physician.
 
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You did not read my post correctly.

Mental illness is not demonic possession. It is a serious illness that requires at times medication. It causes disability with performing daily activities and routines.

Demonic possession on the other hand is not mental illness. It is spiritual warfare and is usually location specific. People can be attacked by evil entities and feel possessed. However, if they leave the location, they are no longer bothered by them and can go on to do their daily activities.

Please don't advise those that mental illness is demonic possession. It is not. They are separate conditions. I suggest to you to not also tell one to go off one's medications, unless you have medical training and are licensed to practice medicine. It is dangerous for people with mental illnesses to go off medications if they are being prescribed them by a licensed physician.
2 things ..1-i didnt tell anyone to go off meds.
I said if your on them ,seek to get off them ,be wise about it.

2..illness of any form is not of God.. He is life .
Man controls symptoms withchemicals.
God delivers and heals.
I was undersuch oppression... I had demons cast out - result .complete healing and freedom.

Now.. How about the scriptures i asked for ..what is the scriptural basis of your advice?
Where does the scripture state to seek man first..and God later?

As for it being location specific..nope..who told you that?thats just demon. lying And stealing freedom..thats what they do ,kill steal and destroy.
The lord Jesus And his deciples cast many a demon out and the result..,the person was healed. There isno distinction between a ill toe and an ill brain .Godheals as sure as puts rainbows to remind he is faithful To his word.
 
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I understand you must read the Bible literally. If you want to live in the times of 2,500 years ago, when there was no availability of current medications and people died from such diseases as diabetes, high blood pressure, hypothryoidism, etc. Then, you can live in such times again. Do you not go to the doctor? Did you know when you were born you were vaccinated against diseases? Vaccinations that were not available 2500 years ago and probably saved your life which is the reason you are alive and writing me such nonsense. Yes, vaccinations such as for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, etc.
If you truly want to go by the Bible, then don't have your children vaccinated, don't go to the doctor, and don't take any medications. And, please don't preach your where is medicine which is available right now written in the Scriptures. It is not! If the Bible were written today, Jesus who was the ultimate physician would allow for those who need medication or chemotherapy or whatever to take such treatment. I don't need to respond to your nonsense any further.
 
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I understand you must read the Bible literally. If you want to live in the times of 2,500 years ago, when there was no availability of current medications and people died from such diseases as diabetes, high blood pressure, hypothryoidism, etc. Then, you can live in such times again. Do you not go to the doctor? Did you know when you were born you were vaccinated against diseases? Vaccinations that were not available 2500 years ago and probably saved your life which is the reason you are alive and writing me such nonsense. Yes, vaccinations such as for diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, etc.
If you truly want to go by the Bible, then don't have your children vaccinated, don't go to the doctor, and don't take any medications. And, please don't preach your where is medicine which is available right now written in the Scriptures. It is not! If the Bible were written today, Jesus who was the ultimate physician would allow for those who need medication or chemotherapy or whatever to take such treatment. I don't need to respond to your nonsense any further.
Like i said... Where is your scriptural basis.?
The lord Jesus healed All who came to him the only oral medication he prescribed was... Give her some bread ..after he caused her to live again.
Is faith in Jesus nonsense? ..well paul writes it is foolishness to those that do not believe .but to the rest of us..it is the wisdom of God.
Dont speak as if he died 2000 years ago..
For he rose again and lives today.
 
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Like i said... Where is your scriptural basis.?
The lord Jesus healed All who came to him the only oral medication he prescribed was... Give her some bread ..after he caused her to live again.
Is faith in Jesus nonsense? ..well paul writes it is foolishness to those that do not believe .but to the rest of us..it is the wisdom of God.
Dont speak as if he died 2000 years ago..
For he rose again and lives today.

"Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life." Galatians 6:8
 
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