Students Face Impeachment, Probation, for attending tequilla-themed party

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Are they actually from Mexico or from the United States?
Citizenship is not culture. I was born in this country, most of my culture comes from parents, who were not US citizens.

So you mean like what's done every year as a national holiday when people celebrate St. Patricks day? Why is this different?
St. Patrick's Day was a holiday brought over to the US by Irish immigrants and spread to the general American public. Tequila parties where people don Mexican-style sombreros are now a Mexican holiday/tradition? News to me.

Again, are they Mexican or Americans? You do realize you can have a spanish last name and be born in the united states right?
Citizenship is not culture. Are you suggesting that Mexican-Americans are not connected to Mexican culture unless they are physically born in Mexico? Ha, news to me.

It's funny how the whole progressive mantra of "respect peoples lived experiences" flies out the window once those people are saying something progressives don't want to hear.
You have someone that says it's not offensive, you have a Mexican student(s) on campus that is offended, I have my friends who consider it offensive. But we're supposed to accept the word of your alleged conversation as Gospel.

Let me try to discredit the students on this campus, by saying they must be Mexicans, born in Mexico, and they also must have lived their their whole lives before moving to the United States for college...
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St. Patrick's Day was a holiday brought over to the US by Irish immigrants and spread to the general American public. Tequila parties where people don Mexican-style sombreros are now a Mexican holiday/tradition? News to me.

Get back to us on May 5th.
 
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Citizenship is not culture. I was born in this country, most of my culture comes from parents, who were not US citizens.
That's nice. Is your culture American or the culture of your parents homeland?

St. Patrick's Day was a holiday brought over to the US by Irish immigrants and spread to the general American public. Tequila parties where people don Mexican-style sombreros are now a Mexican holiday/tradition? News to me.
You've never heard of Cinco de Mayo? Really? Here in San Antonio we have Fiesta every year which celebrates Texan history and Mexican culture here's a picture from the wiki for the event:
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I'm astonished at the bravery of those people. They aren't collapsing in horror at the sight of a sombrero.

Citizenship is not culture. Are you suggesting that Mexican-Americans are not connected to Mexican culture unless they are physically born in Mexico?
Is it the culture of the society they live in? No. Sharing the same race as other people from a culture doesn't automatically mean you are part of the same culture, especially when you were born and live in another country with a completely different culture.



You have someone that says it's not offensive, you have a Mexican student(s) on campus that is offended, I have my friends who consider it offensive.
Which students were Mexicans?

But we're supposed to accept the word of your alleged conversation as Gospel.
Alleged conversation? Well ain't you precious! Projection is a nasty thing isn't it, it tends to tell on you. I guess we know all that we should know your "friends".

Let me try to discredit the students on this campus, by saying they must be Mexicans, born in Mexico, and they also must have lived their their whole lives before moving to the United States for college...
I said their whole lives? I must have missed that. Quote please?

All I asking is that it's the people who are actually part of the culture "offended" who are making the complaints. Otherwise we've got what it appears we have here, first world saviors saying the poor brown people from the evil party that involved a hat.

I mean can you think of anything more insulting and infantalizing than to get offended on behalf of people because of a hat?!
 
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You've never heard of Cinco de Mayo? Really? Here in San Antonio we have Fiesta every year which celebrates Texan history and Mexican culture here's a picture from the wiki for the event:
These students were not celebrating Cinco de Mayo, why are you bringing it up?

Is it the culture of the society they live in? No. Sharing the same race as other people from a culture doesn't automatically mean you are part of the same culture, especially when you were born and live in another country with a completely different culture.
Being born in the United States does not mean one does not share the culture of their parents or the culture of the community? Cuban Americans born in Miami have strong Cuban roots because their culture is promoted and preserved in the city. Likewise, many Mexican Americans see their culture preserved in communities across TX, NM, AZ, and CA (not only these states either). One of the students filing the article of impeachment from Los Angeles. One of the students that spoke at the public forum is from Arizona, his parents immigrated to the country before he was born, his mother is currently barred from returning do to overstaying her visa. Those students are just saviors who have no cultural connection to Mexcio... I guess the picture of people in San Antonio is nothing more than people with no connection to Mexican culture, especially if they're American.

Which students were Mexicans?
Mr. Kevin Hernandez, Ms. Giselle Hernandez and Mr. Bill De La Rosa, to name a few.

Alleged conversation? Well ain't you precious! Projection is a nasty thing isn't it, it tends to tell on you. I guess we know all that we should know your "friends".
alleged : said to have happened but not yet proven

Did I miss something here? Your conversation is alleged.

I said their whole lives? I must have missed that. Quote please?

All I asking is that it's the people who are actually part of the culture "offended" who are making the complaints. Otherwise we've got what it appears we have here, first world saviors saying the poor brown people from the evil party that involved a hat.

I mean can you think of anything more insulting and infantalizing than to get offended on behalf of people because of a hat?!
You keep saying people are being offended on behalf of others, assuming everyone to be non-Hispanic white, when that is not true. This is nothing more than people demanding that others not be offended when they trivialize and treat their culture like a costume.
 
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That's nice. Is your culture American or the culture of your parents homeland?

You've never heard of Cinco de Mayo? Really? Here in San Antonio we have Fiesta every year which celebrates Texan history and Mexican culture here's a picture from the wiki for the event:

I'm astonished at the bravery of those people. They aren't collapsing in horror at the sight of a sombrero.

Is it the culture of the society they live in? No. Sharing the same race as other people from a culture doesn't automatically mean you are part of the same culture, especially when you were born and live in another country with a completely different culture.



Which students were Mexicans?

Alleged conversation? Well ain't you precious! Projection is a nasty thing isn't it, it tends to tell on you. I guess we know all that we should know your "friends".


I said their whole lives? I must have missed that. Quote please?

All I asking is that it's the people who are actually part of the culture "offended" who are making the complaints. Otherwise we've got what it appears we have here, first world saviors saying the poor brown people from the evil party that involved a hat.

I mean can you think of anything more insulting and infantalizing than to get offended on behalf of people because of a hat?!

This is all very detailed and right on. Just remember: it doesn't matter. If you get all bent out of shape because someone wore a sombrero to a tequilla drinking party then you have issues and likely need a therapist. There are diners in India that are "America" themed, and the waiters wear cowboy hats. Oh dear, better poop my pants now! Right?
 
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These students were not celebrating Cinco de Mayo, why are you bringing it up?

Being born in the United States does not mean one does not share the culture of their parents or the culture of the community? Cuban Americans born in Miami have strong Cuban roots because their culture is promoted and preserved in the city. Likewise, many Mexican Americans see their culture preserved in communities across TX, NM, AZ, and CA (not only these states either). One of the students filing the article of impeachment from Los Angeles. One of the students that spoke at the public forum is from Arizona, his parents immigrated to the country before he was born, his mother is currently barred from returning do to overstaying her visa. Those students are just saviors who have no cultural connection to Mexcio... I guess the picture of people in San Antonio is nothing more than people with no connection to Mexican culture, especially if they're American.

Mr. Kevin Hernandez, Ms. Giselle Hernandez and Mr. Bill De La Rosa, to name a few.

alleged : said to have happened but not yet proven

Did I miss something here? Your conversation is alleged.

You keep saying people are being offended on behalf of others, assuming everyone to be non-Hispanic white, when that is not true. This is nothing more than people demanding that others not be offended when they trivialize and treat their culture like a costume.


Give it up already. Nobody is buying the crybullying. There's nothing wrong with wearing a sombrero to a tequilla themed drinking celebration. The people being offended need to get over themselves. We see right through this: it's all about power through shaming. If these people cared AT ALL about Mexican culture they would be too busy opposing the drug lords and corruption that has made Mexico a failed state.

Nobody is buying the bigotry; we know it's all about putting the White Man down.
 
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I bet these morons would get bent watching a martial arts competition, crying "cultural appropriation.

That would be rational, but MMA is too mainstream to feel 'otherish' and so they couldn't muster the hate. The thing is, it's not rational.

I'm still waiting for @SummerMadness to explain why it's OK for non-whites to wear blue-jeans. How come Mexicans even speak Spanish to begin with? Isn't that appropriating the White Conquerors culture? But, it doesn't matter, because it's not about "appropriation". It's about using shame to put the White Man down.
 
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Weeping for the poor oppressed White Man now.

Throwing racist mockery on it just reaffirms that it's all about posturing and power. There's no substance to your rebuttal, just jeering. It has all the firmness of nacho chips soaked with too much salsa. If you were to mock anyone, the reasonable thing would be to mock the poor, oppressed, private university students who can't handle someone wearing a hat.
 
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Give it up already. Nobody is buying the crybullying. There's nothing wrong with wearing a sombrero to a tequilla themed drinking celebration. The people being offended need to get over themselves. We see right through this: it's all about power through shaming. If these people cared AT ALL about Mexican culture they would be too busy opposing the drug lords and corruption that has made Mexico a failed state.

Nobody is buying the bigotry; we know it's all about putting the White Man down.
Nobody is buying the whiny "I'm a white victim" shtick that you're throwing out there. It is not your place to define what is offensive or not to another culture. Additionally, what do Mexican drug lords have to do with anything? People can actually care about multiple things. I guess the next time we see one of these threads we should point out that there are mass shootings in America, stop complaining about college campuses, "You don't care AT ALL about American culture!"

That would be rational, but MMA is too mainstream to feel 'otherish' and so they couldn't muster the hate. The thing is, it's not rational.

I'm still waiting for @SummerMadness to explain why it's OK for non-whites to wear blue-jeans. How come Mexicans even speak Spanish to begin with? Isn't that appropriating the White Conquerors culture? But, it doesn't matter, because it's not about "appropriation". It's about using shame to put the White Man down.
Jeans are not "white clothes," but nice try. In fact there is no such thing as white culture, despite the racist attempt to claim there is such a thing.

Throwing racist mockery on it just reaffirms that it's all about posturing and power. There's no substance to your rebuttal, just jeering. It has all the firmness of nacho chips soaked with too much salsa. If you were to mock anyone, the sane thing would be to mock the poor snowflakes oppressed by someone wearing a hat.
Still trying to say the students are all white is hilarious, you just can't accept the fact that these universities are diverse communities where minority groups have a voice to speak out. It's obvious what that the only snowflakes out there are the people that wish to return to the old days where bigoted and insensitive actions/statements were met with a blind eye. "I mean, it's not like any of them are around, so we can do what we want!"
 
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Nobody is buying the whiny "I'm a white victim" shtick that you're throwing out there.
That makes sense, because I'm not selling the "I'm a white victim" shtick. In fact, I'm not even a victim. I'm pointing out how some privileged upper-crust bigots are getting their power-jollies by shaming people for being white and wearing a hat. Speaking of funny hats: if I were to talk about victimization as it relates to me, I would talk about things like how the Catholic church where I was baptized was bombed by the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party: the KKK. BUT --we're not talking about that, because it's off topic.

It is not your place to define what is offensive or not to another culture.
Oh really? So then why is drinking liquor while wearing hats a problem? Apparently the culture practiced by the drinking hatters does not find what they are doing offensive, otherwise they would not have done it! "But it is offensive to other cultures!" you may protest. Well, that's their culture, and thus their problem. What is it when you try to force the hatters to observe the tenets of another culture? That's called "forcing your culture on others". IIRC, that is a sin in the religion of Leftism.

Additionally, what do Mexican drug lords have to do with anything? People can actually care about multiple things. I guess the next time we see one of these threads we should point out that there are mass shootings in America, stop complaining about college campuses, "You don't care AT ALL about American culture!"
Except I'm not the one raising a cacophony of victimhood because someone drank tequilla and wore a hat, crybullying that my precious culture was violated.
Jeans are not "white clothes," but nice try.
"Research on the trade of jean fabric shows that it emerged in the cities of Genoa, Italy, andNimes, France"
They are no less white than kimonos are japanese

In fact there is no such thing as white culture, despite the racist attempt to claim there is such a thing.
Oh I know. And there's no such thing as Mexican culture either. Because I said so.

Still trying to say the students are all white is hilarious, "
Oh OK well I never said the students are all white, and hence the rest of that sanctimonious screed is irrelevant.
 
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I read the article in the OP and all I can do is shake my head (smh). What kind of students are we raising to become leaders of our next generation? What happens when they go out into the read world and run into a Cinco De Mayo party? Will they curl up into a ball until someone can give them a "safe space" where their feelings can be validated with the hopes that they will feel loved and cherished? smh
 
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I read the article in the OP and all I can do is shake my head (smh). What kind of students are we raising to become leaders of our next generation? What happens when they go out into the read world and run into a Cinco De Mayo party? Will they curl up into a ball until someone can give them a "safe space" where their feelings can be validated with the hopes that they will feel loved and cherished? smh
It reminds me of how Dennis Prager often says "The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen". I suppose that if you wanted large government that serves as a demi-god that takes care of all the people, it might be easier if they were helpless, quivering masses of jelly. Independent-minded people would be more likely to, I suppose, tell big government saviors to keep their "solutions".
 
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That makes sense, because I'm not selling the "I'm a white victim" shtick. In fact, I'm not even a victim. I'm pointing out how some privileged upper-crust bigots are getting their power-jollies by shaming people for being white and wearing a hat. Speaking of funny hats: if I were to talk about victimization as it relates to me, I would talk about things like how the Catholic church where I was baptized was bombed by the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party: the KKK. BUT --we're not talking about that, because it's off topic.
What makes these students privileged? Because they're in college? The students that have spoken out on this topic are from the very communities you claim they are not part of, they are not upper crust by any means. You're attempting to dismiss these students by saying they're not part of the community, but they are. No one is being shamed for being white.

"Oh really? So then why is drinking liquor while wearing hats a problem? Apparently the culture practiced by the drinking hatters does not find what they are doing offensive, otherwise they would not have done it! "But it is offensive to other cultures!" you may protest. Well, that's their culture, and thus their problem. What is it when you try to force the hatters to observe the tenets of another culture? That's called "forcing your culture on others". IIRC, that is a sin in the religion of Leftism.
As already stated, it is not your place to tell people what is/is not culturally significant to their culture or what is offensive.

Except I'm not the one raising a cacophony of victimhood because someone drank tequilla and wore a hat, crybullying that my precious culture was violated.
Actually you are trying to play victim here along with the folks at Campus Reform, hence claims of victimization by the Left and attacks on "white culture."

Italy and France are not "white culture." Denim emerged from Italy and France, the most you could say is that it is that it arose from Italian and French cultures. There is no such thing as "white culture."

Oh I know. And there's no such thing as Mexican culture either. Because I said so.
There is Mexican culture, there is no such thing as "white culture."
 
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What makes these students privileged? Because they're in college? The students that have spoken out on this topic are from the very communities you claim they are not part of, they are not upper crust by any means. You're attempting to dismiss these students by saying they're not part of the community, but they are. No one is being shamed for being white.

As already stated, it is not your place to tell people what is/is not culturally significant to their culture or what is offensive.

Actually you are trying to play victim here along with the folks at Campus Reform, hence claims of victimization by the Left and attacks on "white culture."

Italy and France are not "white culture." Denim emerged from Italy and France, the most you could say is that it is that it arose from Italian and French cultures. There is no such thing as "white culture."

There is Mexican culture, there is no such thing as "white culture."

Oh OK so other people cannot say what's appropriate for other cultures ... but YOU get to tell others that their cultures don't even exist? Sorry, but such hypocrisy is repulsive. In case you have forgotten, Christ came down hardest on the hypocrites.

So, anyway, who are you to tell these students what is or is not offensive to their culture? Do you even know their culture? Who died and made you boss, that you can tell them what is or is not offensive or significant to their culture? Who are you to say they should make it significant to their culture when bigots from another culture get their noses all bent because someone wore a hat?
 
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