Are The Jewish People Still The Chosen People? (video)

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Here is the origin of the doctrine you are promoting.

Genesis of Dispensational Theology (on YouTube)

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Here is the origin of the doctrine you are promoting.

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"Jesus took His kingdom away from the jews at the end of Daniels 69th week. But the Jews will have a chance to get it back during the 70th week."


True ... a remnant part of Israel will turn and believe during the coming time of Jacob's trouble .... all of the believing will have the kingdom restored to them [Acts 1:6-7]

And these saved mortals will enter and populate the Lord's coming millennial kingdom [Isaiah 11; 27:12-13; Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 36; 39; 40-48; Joel 2; 3; Micah 4:1-3; 36; 5; Zechariah 12; 13:8-9; 14; Matthew 24:29-31; Luke 21:20-36; Romans 11:25-36]

Already, done during the 70th week, about 2,000 years ago...


Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

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Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.


The Deliverer has already come out of Zion and made a New Covenant with Israel and Judah.


Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

The 70 Weeks are finished. The angel Gabriel never mentioned a "gap".
 
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Do you mean that modern Jews, who have rejected Christ, have another way of salvation?

How do you think your statement above compares to the words of the Apostle Paul below?

You might wanna fly to Israel and ask the Jewish people there which house are they a descendant of and if descendants from all of Jacob are back.

How do you think your statement above compares to the words of the Prophet Ezekiel below?

Ezekiel 37:22
I will unify them into one nation on the mountains of Israel. One king will rule them all; no longer will they be divided into two nations or into two kingdoms.
 
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"Do you mean that modern Jews, who have rejected Christ, have another way of salvation?"


The way is the same, no different.... your problem is you refuse to believe that the time is coming when a remnant part of the nation will turn and believe in their Messiah and King

Israel is in the land for His purposes today and still in blindness .... this condition is going to change for the "many" who will turn [Daniel 9:22-27; Romans 11:25-36]

You have read far too many pied pipers of preteristic replacement theology who must eliminate what they label as "Darby/MacDonnald dispensationalism"[a totally concocted hoax] .... this must be done in order to prove out their "antisemitic" rant

Those who have done and do this thing cannot usurp the Lord's word on the matter, and their attempt to do so has ended in abject failure

Better off for you to study the Word son and to dump those you follow

 
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Not already done BAB
Already done, SS, as sure as 70 follows 69.

You do not understand the 70 weeks of years decreed for Israel
Yeah, all we poor souls have is Holy Writ to base our understanding on. <Sniff>

.... denying this truth is one of your greatest errors
Just cast the Bible aside and accept what y'all claim it really means, right?
 
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The way is the same, no different.... your problem is you refuse to believe that the time is coming when a remnant part of the nation will turn and believe in their Messiah and King
But wait, doesn't your New Religion teach that they won't have to believe in our Lord Christ? After all, the Church is for this "dispensation" only, and then we're all going back to slaughtering livestock for our sins, aren't we? Say so right there in Ezekiel!

You have read far too many pied pipers of preteristic replacement theology who must eliminate what they label as "Darby/MacDonnald dispensationalism"[a totally concocted hoax] .... this must be done in order to prove out their "antisemitic" rant
I don;t know about any of those goomers. All I know is that DF doctrine: A) contradicts the Bible, and B) contradicts history. That is sufficient; no need to know what set of dingbats invented it.

Those who have done and do this thing cannot usurp the Lord's word on the matter
Unfortunately for those who hold to dispensational futurism, the Lord's Word is simply something you have to circumvent to get your hand-wrought doctrine to work. Witness the DF refusal to acknowledge that the letter to the Hebrews even exists.

Better off for you to study the Word son
Best if you'd lead by example. :oldthumbsup:
 
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True .... none of what you say is relevant ..... or possible
KInda like all that stuff the writer of Hebrews had to say, huh? Purely irrelevant. To DF doctrine, anyway. Just like the rest of the Bible.
Make it up as you go, that's the ticket!

BTW, reckon y'all will wear yarmulkes and talits when you go to make your sin offering at the New Temple?
 
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The Lord's Chosen Israel is: King Jesus Christ and His JEWISH followers, Mary, Joseph, John the Baptist, Elizabeth, the 12, the 70, the 3000 on Pentacost and the many many more who, like paul, originally rejected, then accepted Israels New Covenant, with Gentile believers who were once "far off" but are now grafted in as "fellow citizens".

The Lord's Chosen Israel is not:
Christ Rejectors of any stripe in any location of any genetic background.

And yes, you cannot do anything about it.
 
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You are wrong about that Straight. Their kind have killed Jews before. It is my great fear they will do so again before the Lord returns. There is great hatred there. Inexplicable hatred.

"Their kind" presumably meaning those of us who don't buy into the Dispensational Futurism, I take it.

The contention is as offensive as it is idiotic.
 
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You are wrong about that Straight. Their kind have killed Jews before. It is my great fear they will do so again before the Lord returns. There is great hatred there. Inexplicable hatred.

I have had Jewish Christians in my home for Bible study.
It was not because I hated them.

Is it hatred to tell the modern Jews that they need Jesus Christ for salvation and that the Old Covenant system is finished?

Or would they be better off if we all just pretend that the Old Covenant system is still in effect, as John Hagee does?

Or would they be better off if we say, "The day is coming when the Jews will accept Jesus, but we do not know when." ? What about all of those older Jews who die without Jesus?

If we truly love them, they need to hear the painful truth.

The Jews stoned Stephen because he told them the truth they did not want to hear about their true Messiah.

Speaking the truth in love, is not hatred.

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I have had Jewish Christians in my home for Bible study.
It was not because I hated them.

Is it hatred to tell the modern Jews that they need Jesus Christ for salvation and that the Old Covenant system is finished?

Or would they be better off if we all just pretend that the Old Covenant system is still in effect, as John Hagee does?

Or would they be better off if we say, "The day is coming when the Jews will accept Jesus, but we do not know when." ? What about all of those older Jews who die without Jesus?

If we truly love them, they need to hear the painful truth.

The Jews stoned Stephen because he told them the truth they did not want to hear about their true Messiah.

Speaking the truth in love, is not hatred.

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Wait.. I have the answer......
Why do you hate Israel?
 
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Hmmm...Paul talked about his people which were Jews. Ya they r still the chosen. They have been used as an example. Gentiles r grafted in and receive the benefits, but they r considered the chosen. The nation of the old testament who the laws were given to. I keep it simple and go by that. I don't believe Christians have replaced them
 
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Hmmm...Paul talked about his people which were Jews. Ya they r still the chosen. They have been used as an example. Gentiles r grafted in and receive the benefits, but they r considered the chosen. The nation of the old testament who the laws were given to. I keep it simple and go by that. I don't believe Christians have replaced them


Christianity = the Jewish Church gone global... it's as simple as that.

There is no replacement whatsoever.

The Church is the only surviving sect of Biblical Judaism.
 
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