Bingo, the change to 3.0 is exactly what I had in mind. I am strongly supportive of this idea. I have no problem having my tax money invested into our future.
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Bingo, the change to 3.0 is exactly what I had in mind. I am strongly supportive of this idea. I have no problem having my tax money invested into our future.
When high school became free it had a positive effect so I think this will be good in the long run.
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nothing is FREE. Again, people paying for things are more likely to WANT to be there.
Actually, the education system is so messed up, in Georgia we have what is called the HOPE scholarship. Trouble is, that the public schools are under so much pressure for students to graduate qualifing for HOPE ( a 3.0 or 3.2 required ( depending on the program you choose college prep verse more trade based training) that many of them LOSE HOPE after a semester or two at college; because at college they do not ensure that you pass.
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So it's glossing over the failure of our secondary schools, essentially. Considering that much of community college is devoted to filling in what kids should have learned in secondary school already, I think fixing them instead is more in line with a real solution.
Community college is also relatively cheap. You can work a part-time, low-wage job there and pay for your classes. Those who are "willing to work for it" do.
Are you including a shorter summer break for more instructional days in there?
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That's only true if all of your other living expenses are covered. If you add room and board on top of tuition, you could be looking at an extra $10-12000/yr or more.
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What the public secondary schools NEED to do is actually PREPARE students for post-secondary.
This means to not be so standardized test driven ( teachers are teaching the test), but also to be objective yet stricter with the grades.
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Mine is mostly paid for by tuition reimbursement - my employer recognizes that an advanced degree makes me more valuable to them. I pay for my books.
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Government supplied education, on the surface, could benefit me, since paying for it is a stretch. However, in my own case it would do nothing for me. I took out a school loan a couple of years ago and enrolled in night classes towards an engineering degree. I was doing well. (My aptitude tests have always been in the upper 90's, especially in mathematics, which is upwards of 98%.) I had to drop out. The school refused to protect my rights of access to school facilities. I dropped out after the deadline for a refund. But, when I appealed that decision based on their lack of protection, they repaid the loan, so they conceded their lack. People like me aren't welcome in community colleges, regardless of the boost to their scholastic records I would provide.
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Having read some of Stephanie's previous posts, I think I know what she's talking about. It sounds like Stephanie has had to deal with transphobia.
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When I was admitted, I sent a message to the school provost informing him of my trans status and asking which restrooms they would want me to use. Of course, I'm much more comfortable in the women's room, but I wasn't interested in making an issue of it and was willing to abide by school policy. The response I got was, "I guess it doesn't matter which one you use as long as nobody complains." So, in reality, my restroom access was under the control of the students, rather than the administration, and I was not guaranteed that either would consistently be made available. My conclusion was to not use either and just hold it. There was one evening each week when I had 2 classes with a half hour break between. So, I was on campus for about 3 hours. Holding it got to be rather painful. And I realized it wasn't healthy. I pass fairly well, but not perfectly. Once in a while I would get nasty expressions from a few students. I realized that these were the same people who would be creating havoc for me IF I were to use the ladies room. And, I was terrified to use a men's room. The threat of attack or worse was too high. I didn't see any other way out of the dilemma. So, I just quit.
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It's really nobody's business where you "do your business" so long as you aren't doing it on their doorstep...
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