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I need help, please read this, even if it's a little long.

So I've been dealing with many long term OCD "vows", some have persisted for years. Yesterday I had a talk with the Pastor of my church and he told me not to follow these. With this, I was able to go home and break through! Finally! After all this time! It was amazing! I was free! It was amazing. This was the best I had done in so long.

But then I had a derailment…. But I want to keep going!

So there was one "vow" from a while back that was probably OCD but did have a positive effect. This is from maybe a year ago? For many years I had no eyelashes, I have Trichotillomania, which gives me an urge to pull my hairs out. The urge was very strong, and I would pull my eyelashes. I hadn't had a full set of eyelashes since 2006. This was really embarrassing for me.

Well maybe about a year ago, one of my OCD "vow" fears was having to go to Africa to be a missionary. Well, I assume out of OCD, one day "vowed" that if I pulled another eyelash that I would go to Africa.

I stopped pulling my eyelashes cold turkey and got them back. I've been pretty much pull free of my eyelashes since then.

Yesterday I was doing a bunch of the things that I couldn't do because of the OCD "vows". I was listening to music, drinking coffee, having ice cream, chocolate, I took a walk, had beer, all of those things I was worried I "vowed" not to do. I still had some "vows" that came on yesterday, but I pushed on and didn't give in to them, at least not for long.

Later, at night I went to my grandma's house. My phone was dead so I couldn't document this right away, but here's what I think happened. I remembered my eyelash "vow" or something, and maybe thought that that's how I stopped pulling, or I need it, to not pull, or that I needed to keep that one so I didn't, or something like that, I think. So on purpose I either "vowed" it, or affirmed that "vow". This is what I think happened. I wasn't able to write it down till later so this may not be super accurate.

Ugh! I was doing so good! So I thought that I also can't do basically all my other "vows", at least for a day or two. No music, coffee, etc. So after this I think, gotta break through this. I got in the car, and listened to a couple songs on the radio as I went to get a pizza. Then when I got back to my grandma's I drank some beer.

Now I'm upset, thinking I have to wait 3 days to listen to music again for the 3 songs I heard, and 1 day of no alcohol for the beer. I'm even having trouble worrying that the "vow" wasn't about my eyelashes. I'm worried it may have been about something else, but I can't remember anything else. Like I mean there's no other "vow" I can remember having done.

The thing that is really throwing me, is I seemed to do the eyelash "vow" thing on purpose. I really want my eyelashes.

And now I'm thinking, it's only 3 days for music, 1 day for alcohol, etc. Which makes me really want to do it.

So what do I do??? Do I press no matter what and label this as OCD, not waiting the days? Or do I follow it because I did this on purpose? I feel like me doing it on purpose means it's not OCD.

Oh, and my OCD doesn't want me to say this, but let's face it, this will probably turn in to more than just 3 days of no music. With the whole drinking thing originally, 1 month ended up turning in to a year or more. But my OCD is saying that I'm just trying to get out of it by saying this and I really need to do this "vow". I mean I think I was chugging along doing good and then BAM this happened. I'm not even sure I could have prepared for this, I didn't even think of this.

Does what I did sound like OCD? Or maybe habit? Or did I just want my eyelashes so bad that I was willing to "vow"? Ugh a voice in my head just seemed to say "it's not too late to turn back now" because I'm worried there will be consequences to me posting this, ugh! I also don't know if the "vow" just involved "vowing" about pulling my eyelashes, or if it involved all my other "vows".

Then, I woke up this morning, feeling mad/frustrated about this whole thing and did several "vows" once again on purpose. Not even sure what they were for. I think it was me trying to make it so that if I follow this I'm just going to "vow" more. Ugh. These "vows" were purely out of frustration/feeling trapped. Which makes me feel like I need to follow them.

Please help me! I'm so close!
 

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So something else happened that I'm really scared about. I have a thing where I intrusively ask for signs. So like I'll be going to my phone and have thoughts like I'm saying to God "if I have a text then it's a sign" maybe that some OCD is real. It's kind of an intrusive thing but sometimes I affirm it, I think.

So I've been worrying about this and I got a phone call from a friend yesterday. After I picked up I said something like "if they (he and his wife) are coming over then it's a sign the "vow" is real". He ended up saying he's coming over. Ugh. Now I'm feeling even more convicted about this.

I mean it came about after I knew it was him on the phone, so maybe it's just a coincidence I don't know.

Not only was I really worried this is real, now I'm worried God might have given me a sign it's real.
 
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While I understand your "vow" for the eyelash pulling, I am not clear on the others. Really, it sounds like you are just using "vows" to direct your behavior. While "vows" can mentally help, they can be more of a distraction / problem then a positive benefit. While, I believe in the taking vows for specific events (marriage) I think that people should not take vows just to direct their behavior. Vows are a serious matter and should only be taken in extreme situations.

Example, I didn't take a vow of marriage so that I will love and be true to my wife. I made that conscious decision before and that vow supports the decision that I had made.

God understands we struggle with things and I don't think that he is holding us to vows that are non-biblical.

So don't direct your behavior based on vows but rather on conscious decision. Yes, sometimes we fall, but then you get back up and start again. It doesn't need a penalty just the understanding that you fell but that you can choose to get back up again.

Good luck and God Bless
 
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Hey GT,
The main type of intrusive thoughts you have are going to be in the form of a Vow. Your brain is in the habit of generating those kinds of thoughts. The anxiety will of course make it seem like you are really choosing to make a commitment/promise to God. That's why obsessions hurt so much. The scary thing with OCD - "Pure O" lies in the fact that it's impossible for us to obtain any kind of certainty as to whether or not the intrusive thoughts are on purpose/chosen or just the disorder. This drives us nuts. See that's the whole issue. If we could just say: "Oh well this is just my OCD I don't have to bother about it at all".. and really feel relaxed about that we wouldn't get stuck in these miserable rumination cycles at all. The questions: "What if it's me wanting this?" or "What if I did in on purpose?" need to be identified as "spikes". Spikes scare us and we feel like we need to solve them, figure them out etc. But all those mental gymnastics only lend credence to the spikes and suddenly our brain is like; "Wait a minute.. I think this is urgent.. an emergency actually! I have to figure this out now!"
Just reading your description of all this is mentally exhausting. The more you try to solve it - the worse you will feel. Let it go. Don't try to sort it out. Just acknowledge that the vowing obsessions are going to crop up from time to time (the brain remembers them) and that every single time the anxiety you feel is going to push/compel you to engage in the compulsion. What is the compulsion? - Any effort to try and sort it out so that you feel "safe" about what happened. You have to just gut out the anxiety and refuse to engage in the compulsion. Remember the key to managing OCD is tolerating an uncomfortable level of uncertainty until your brain settles down about the doubt.
So you had a little set back.. so what. We all do. That's the way OCD is. It crops up from time to time, especially if we are tired or stressed. All is NOT lost. :) Just go back and do the right thing. Let it go. Say to yourself: "there is absolutely no way for me to get 100% certainty about all this so I'm just going to let it go and leave it to God. I cannot undo it. I cannot un think it. But I can IGNORE it." Then find something else to do to distract your mind.
I have confidence that you'll get off the rumination trail and get back to living your life. Just a little glitch. Don't let your OCD make a big hairy deal out of it. Praying for you! Mitzi


So something else happened that I'm really scared about. I have a thing where I intrusively ask for signs. So like I'll be going to my phone and have thoughts like I'm saying to God "if I have a text then it's a sign" maybe that some OCD is real. It's kind of an intrusive thing but sometimes I affirm it, I think.

So I've been worrying about this and I got a phone call from a friend yesterday. After I picked up I said something like "if they (he and his wife) are coming over then it's a sign the "vow" is real". He ended up saying he's coming over. Ugh. Now I'm feeling even more convicted about this.

I mean it came about after I knew it was him on the phone, so maybe it's just a coincidence I don't know.

Not only was I really worried this is real, now I'm worried God might have given me a sign it's real.
 
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Hey GT,
The main type of intrusive thoughts you have are going to be in the form of a Vow. Your brain is in the habit of generating those kinds of thoughts. The anxiety will of course make it seem like you are really choosing to make a commitment/promise to God. That's why obsessions hurt so much. The scary thing with OCD - "Pure O" lies in the fact that it's impossible for us to obtain any kind of certainty as to whether or not the intrusive thoughts are on purpose/chosen or just the disorder. This drives us nuts. See that's the whole issue. If we could just say: "Oh well this is just my OCD I don't have to bother about it at all".. and really feel relaxed about that we wouldn't get stuck in these miserable rumination cycles at all. The questions: "What if it's me wanting this?" or "What if I did in on purpose?" need to be identified as "spikes". Spikes scare us and we feel like we need to solve them, figure them out etc. But all those mental gymnastics only lend credence to the spikes and suddenly our brain is like; "Wait a minute.. I think this is urgent.. an emergency actually! I have to figure this out now!"
Just reading your description of all this is mentally exhausting. The more you try to solve it - the worse you will feel. Let it go. Don't try to sort it out. Just acknowledge that the vowing obsessions are going to crop up from time to time (the brain remembers them) and that every single time the anxiety you feel is going to push/compel you to engage in the compulsion. What is the compulsion? - Any effort to try and sort it out so that you feel "safe" about what happened. You have to just gut out the anxiety and refuse to engage in the compulsion. Remember the key to managing OCD is tolerating an uncomfortable level of uncertainty until your brain settles down about the doubt.
So you had a little set back.. so what. We all do. That's the way OCD is. It crops up from time to time, especially if we are tired or stressed. All is NOT lost. :) Just go back and do the right thing. Let it go. Say to yourself: "there is absolutely no way for me to get 100% certainty about all this so I'm just going to let it go and leave it to God. I cannot undo it. I cannot un think it. But I can IGNORE it." Then find something else to do to distract your mind.
I have confidence that you'll get off the rumination trail and get back to living your life. Just a little glitch. Don't let your OCD make a big hairy deal out of it. Praying for you! Mitzi

:amen: Well said!
 
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