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The thread from post one would be of honest content only if it were titled 'do women have a right to post on GT'
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Is it okay for women to be worship leaders?
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I don't see anything in scripture about anyone "leading the service" except the Holy Spirit.
But I've certainly seen from childhood the pastor take his seat while a female choir director lead the choir and/or the congregation in a song.
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Delusion? For believing what the Word of God says is true and for sincerely asking other believers if such a person behaving in a way that appears to be in a manner contrary to scripture is okay according to the Bible?
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I tend to agree sort of I think, or at least I of course agree with what Gods Word says, although Im not sure what to think when I see so many women now "teaching" or "sharing"?? there is of course, Joyce Meyers, etc,etc. And a church I just recently went to has ONLY girls up there speaking even though they have a male pastor!! Go figure! But BOTH those girls are ABSOLUTELY most definitely Spirit-led, and filled w/the Gods Spirit as are numerous others in the church! I don't know what to think. Oh well, Im not worried about it too much. I just know that I myself would not seek that position in a church, but maybe if they allowed me or wanted me to simply share something that God showed me or an experience?? Unsure. Im a little bit uncomfortable with it, but don't know if that would be a "bad" thing to do or not!! I just don't know. I just try to go by Gods Word.
I guess I'll find out when I leave this earth and go to be w/our Lord!
All questions will be answered then.
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Sometimes I think that being Catholic really does make religion much easier to comprehend.
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I think it's one of those debates that will stay around until Christ returns.
Like a lot of controversial debates!!
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Yes, but .....
Where 50% of humanity is affected by a matter I don't see the Scriptures as being that opaque on the issue. What I discern as a significant underlying (i.e. a preconception) is how we see the biblical texts, whether some divinely 'dictated' 'here-it-is-no-cultural-factors' set of binding precepts, or inspiration that also includes working with the authors' purposes and styles infused with by the Holy Spirit writing within a cultural context from which we can derive applications to our context today.
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I never have much hope of changing minds in these discussions. About the most I expect is a clearer understanding of where the disagreements are.
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We all struggle to live as Christ calls us to live, that is why our Lord referred to the cross that each of us must take up and carry. The road that we must travel is not easy. But I am happy that some struggles (such as finding the right congregation in a locale where there are dozens to choose from) are not so significant for me because I am a Catholic and my choices are narrowed down to the local Parish church or churches in my locale. For me there are two close by, and another dozen or so within 15 minutes to 20 minutes driving. I go to the one whose territory includes my address. It's been a happy experience for many years now.
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We all struggle to live as Christ calls us to live, that is why our Lord referred to the cross that each of us must take up and carry. The road that we must travel is not easy. But I am happy that some struggles (such as finding the right congregation in a locale where there are dozens to choose from) are not so significant for me because I am a Catholic and my choices are narrowed down to the local Parish church or churches in my locale. For me there are two close by, and another dozen or so within 15 minutes to 20 minutes driving. I go to the one whose territory includes my address. It's been a happy experience for many years now.
I can concurr with that particular thought, though mine is a bit closer for a drive. About a 20 minute walk however, which is nice in the summer
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My Church has handled these scripture conundrums for many centuries and always stuck with the solution that she now applies to this question; women may participate in church, sing, lead the singing, teach and write instructions and so forth but women may not be ordained to the roles of deacon, priest, or bishop. This isn't because the Church believes that scripture is immune from the norms of culture that applied at the time of its writing or immune from interpretation to suit the needs and situations that arise in our culture, on the contrary she has always taught that cultures do change and that the message of the gospel can be contextualised to suit peoples of different cultures. What remains unchanged is the text of sacred scripture and when people seek to change the text by pretending that ancient cultures were so backwards and unworthy that we can safely rewrite the scriptures so that the nasty elements of ancient culture are expunged then the Church says no, the text is not to be changed. The subject matter of this thread is one area where people do try to dismiss the text on the assumption that ancient cultures were basically ignorant and nasty and unjust towards women and that therefore what the scriptures say about women and men and the roles open to each within the church is ignorant and nasty and unjust towards women. That is an error that Christians ought to resist.
You're very likely right about those expectations.
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Whereas my own church is more open to understanding that the culture changes and that the spirit of Scriptural and Traditional awareness needs to be re-examined in light of the change so that, while the core of the message remains in place and the traditions is still observed, the response to change is seen in the fabric of the church.My Church has handled these scripture conundrums for many centuries and always stuck with the solution that she now applies to this question; women may participate in church, sing, lead the singing, teach and write instructions and so forth but women may not be ordained to the roles of deacon, priest, or bishop. This isn't because the Church believes that scripture is immune from the norms of culture that applied at the time of its writing or immune from interpretation to suit the needs and situations that arise in our culture, on the contrary she has always taught that cultures do change and that the message of the gospel can be contextualised to suit peoples of different cultures. What remains unchanged is the text of sacred scripture and when people seek to change the text but pretending that ancient cultures were so backwards and unworthy that we can safely rewrite the scriptures so that the nasty elements of ancient culture are expunged then the Church says no, the text is not to be changed. The subject matter of this thread is one area where people do try to dismiss the text on the assumption that ancient cultures were basically ignorant and nasty and unjust towards women and that therefore what the scriptures say about women and men and the roles open to each within the church is ignorant and nasty and unjust towards women. That is an error that Christians ought to resist.
You're very likely right about those expectations.
Just for clarification of why some of us (namely me) can be so....gung-ho in response to issues like this.
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You and Azure have much accomplished bringing it to light while much still lies in darkness
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