Minority men kill white waitress and steal her tip money.
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Totally incorrect....
Even in a gun-loving country like the US, the incidence of violent crime has been FALLING for decades, as it has been world-wide...
But if your 'sky is falling' fantasies help you to sleep at night, go right ahead.....
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I don't see what would make this a hate crime. It would depend on whether or not the perpetrators were driven by a bias motive toward the victim. Being of different races doesn't by itself qualify this as a hate crime.
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Sounds like a greed crime to me. Whether it was a hate crime or not isn't clear without further evidence.
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I guess 'End of Times' does sound a little dramatic, as I do see it coming as more of a transformation than the end of everything.
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Crimes like this are generally on the decline, though. So your Endtimes/"transformation" rhetoric seems misplaced.
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That's because you pay more attention to the news as you grow older, and nice things like "man gives homeless man and his dog a blanket" isn't news worthy.
Or do you really think that your perceptions are more relevant than actually statistical facts?
Or do you really think that your perceptions are more relevant than actually statistical facts?
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It wouldn't be a hate crime unless they did it BECAUSE she was white. Chances are, they were going after the tip money and would have done it no matter what race she was. (Just checked it out. The crime was committed over two years ago. What prompted discussing it now?)
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No you don't. You just pay an inordinate amount of attention to media that makes it's money off highlighting tragedy, which gives a false impression that things are getting worse.
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Well, the point that hate crimes can be (and are) committed also by blacks against whites is certainly valid, although the waitress case doesn't seem to be one of them. The fact that it happens in one direction doesn't justify it happening in the other.
I knew a white man who lived in a racially mixed neighborhood. I say racially mixed because over the years it balanced out more, but at that time (early 1990's) it was probably about 90% black or more, 10% white or less, and that's not factoring in other races. That man had a second shift job and was walking home from it around midnight or so. By the time he arrived home, he was beaten and bloody and had to go to the ER. To hear him tell it initially, he was jumped unprovoked by a gang of black teens, and it had to be racially motivated. They didn't like him living in "their" neighborhood because he was white, was his guess.
Later more details came out. As he was walking home, he had noticed this group of black teens walking in the same general direction, but not really focusing on him. Because they were simply THERE, however, he kept nervously looking over his shoulder at them. Finally, although they had not laid a hand on him or spoken a word to him, he got so scared he threw his drink at them (a large soda with ice in a paper to-go cup) and took off running. They chased him down, and the result was stitches in his forehead.
Yet initially he had said it was "entirely unprovoked." It wasn't, if he threw something at them. He thought he was the victim of a racially motivated hate crime, but the way I see it, HE was the one stereotyping THEM. Because they are young and black, they must be a gang, not merely a group of friends, right? I lived in that same neighborhood, and I was always safe any time of the day or night. If it had been me, seeing those kids, I would have smiled, waved at them, and said hello as I passed, and I'm confident I would have made it home safely.
Note, the fact that he did provoke them did not, in my opinion, justify their response. I'm only saying he wasn't entirely innocent, as he first claimed.
I knew a white man who lived in a racially mixed neighborhood. I say racially mixed because over the years it balanced out more, but at that time (early 1990's) it was probably about 90% black or more, 10% white or less, and that's not factoring in other races. That man had a second shift job and was walking home from it around midnight or so. By the time he arrived home, he was beaten and bloody and had to go to the ER. To hear him tell it initially, he was jumped unprovoked by a gang of black teens, and it had to be racially motivated. They didn't like him living in "their" neighborhood because he was white, was his guess.
Later more details came out. As he was walking home, he had noticed this group of black teens walking in the same general direction, but not really focusing on him. Because they were simply THERE, however, he kept nervously looking over his shoulder at them. Finally, although they had not laid a hand on him or spoken a word to him, he got so scared he threw his drink at them (a large soda with ice in a paper to-go cup) and took off running. They chased him down, and the result was stitches in his forehead.
Yet initially he had said it was "entirely unprovoked." It wasn't, if he threw something at them. He thought he was the victim of a racially motivated hate crime, but the way I see it, HE was the one stereotyping THEM. Because they are young and black, they must be a gang, not merely a group of friends, right? I lived in that same neighborhood, and I was always safe any time of the day or night. If it had been me, seeing those kids, I would have smiled, waved at them, and said hello as I passed, and I'm confident I would have made it home safely.
Note, the fact that he did provoke them did not, in my opinion, justify their response. I'm only saying he wasn't entirely innocent, as he first claimed.
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