Day Of The Lord Old Testament fulfilments!

Rev20 · Aug 16, 2014

keras said:
I agree, Ezekiel 37:25 would refer to a descendant of David, namely Jesus. He has not yet DEscended for His earthly rule.

Rev20, I quoted Ezekiel 37:23-28. In that passage are many things that are prophesied to happen at the time of the rejoining of Israel and Judah. I did not 'interpret' anything.
Have those things happened? NO, therefore we await that great event.
Jeremiah 50:4-5 In those days, [after the holy Land has been made a desolate waste, totally depopulated, with not even animals or birds left. v3 & Hosea 4:3, Isaiah 33:8-9, Jer. 12:4, Zeph. 1:18, Isaiah 10:23] the people of Israel and the people of Judah will come together and in tears, go in search of the Lord, their God. They will ask the way to Zion...saying: Come, let us join ourselves to the Lord in an everlasting Covenant...

Ezekiel 37, for the most part, was fulfilled upon the return from Babylon.

While in captivity, the children of Israel were spiritually dead, with no hope:

"Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel." -- Eze 37:11-12

The opening of the graves was spiritual: a spiritual reawakening. That is, when Cyrus issued his inspired proclamation for the return of the children of Israel to Canaan, the spirit of life was restored in them, as if their dry bones had suddenly came to life.
.

Ezekiel 37:15-19 is a summary of the return from captivity by Israel and Judah, beginning around 535 BC; the partial rejoining of the two kingdoms into one kingdom, named Judah, under the government of Zerubbabel of the house of David. Ezra confirms that "all Israel" returned to their cities (see also, Ezekiel 34):

"So the priests, and the Levites, and some of the people, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, dwelt in their cities, and all Israel in their cities." -- Ezra 2:70

"And when the seventh month was come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered themselves together as one man to Jerusalem." -- Ezra 3:1

"And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king. And the children of Israel, the priests, and the Levites, and the rest of the children of the captivity, kept the dedication of this house of God with joy. And offered at the dedication of this house of God an hundred bullocks, two hundred rams, four hundred lambs; and for a sin offering for all Israel, twelve he goats, according to the number of the tribes of Israel ." -- Ezra 6:15-17

"And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the Lord God of Israel, did eat, And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for the Lord had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of God, the God of Israel." -- Ezra 6:21-22

That last passage could only be referring to the northern ten tribes of Israel who were carried away by the Assyrians. Therefore, all twelve tribes were allowed to return; and many did.

Obviously Ezra was not referring to every child of Israel, since some did not return, but preferred to remain in the areas of their former captivity. That is confirmed by the second regathering, which occurred during the ministry of the Lord and his Apostles:

"And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people. . ." - Isa 11:10-11

After the return and rejoining of the kingdom, Israel experienced many years of peace (about 300 years), until it sinned and broke the covenant (again). Then the Lord sent Antiochus IV (aka, Gog, the chief prince of Magog) to punish them (Eze 38 & 39).

.

Interplanner · Aug 16, 2014

Thanks Rev for:
After the return and rejoining of the kingdom, Israel experienced many years of peace (about 300 years), until it sinned and broke the covenant (again). Then the Lord sent Antiochus IV (aka, Gog, the chief prince of Magog) to punish them (Eze 38 & 39).

I'll have to check the different facts involved in that!

keras · Aug 16, 2014

I just trust that others reading these posts will seriously consider the truth of scripture and realize that all this has NOT been fulfilled.
Isn't it obvious that the world awaits God to make His move to gather all His chosen people, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in.
Antiochus IV was Gog? Come on IP, you sure need to 'check your facts!

Interplanner · Aug 16, 2014

Why would he not be? People are quick to say Daniel spoke of him.

ebedmelech · Aug 16, 2014

keras said:
I just trust that others reading these posts will seriously consider the truth of scripture and realize that all this has NOT been fulfilled.
Isn't it obvious that the world awaits God to make His move to gather all His chosen people, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in.
Antiochus IV was Gog? Come on IP, you sure need to 'check your facts!

Keras..."the chosen" are all who are in Christ...they are spiritual Jews.

Look at Ephesians 1:3, 4:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him.

So I just trust you'll read scripture a bit better...

Interplanner · Aug 17, 2014

Chosen!

Rev20 · Aug 17, 2014

Interplanner said:
Thanks Rev for:
After the return and rejoining of the kingdom, Israel experienced many years of peace (about 300 years), until it sinned and broke the covenant (again). Then the Lord sent Antiochus IV (aka, Gog, the chief prince of Magog) to punish them (Eze 38 & 39).

I'll have to check the different facts involved in that!

Never underestimate the ability of Satan and his children to rewrite history. For example, this is from the Jewish Masoretic text, of uncertain origin and authenticity:

"Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle." -- Zec 14:3 KJV

This is the same verse from the Septuagint (LXX), which is a translation of the Hebrew into Greek before Christ, and was quoted by Christ and the Apostles. The oldest LXX manuscript is the Codex Vaticanus of 325-350 AD, from which this verse came:

"And the Lord shall go forth, and fight with those Gentiles as when he fought in the day of war." -- Zec 14:3 LXX

The Septuagint version fits the context of Zechariah 14:1-3, which is prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem. The Masoretic (KJV) verse is of questionable value to the context.

.

JLB777 · Aug 17, 2014

Rev20 said:
JLB, I noticed that you occasionally throw the Heresy aspersion at those you disagree with. Do you have a set of rules you go by that we can examine?

You do know that chiliasm (the so-called 1000-year earthly reign) was once considered unorthodox, don't you? And that unorthodoxy is generally considered to be heresy?

"The most striking point in the eschatology of the ante-Nicene age is the prominent chiliasm, or millennarianism, that is the belief of a visible reign of Christ in glory on earth with the risen saints for a thousand years, before the general resurrection and judgment. It was indeed not the doctrine of the church embodied in any creed or form of devotion" [Philip Schaff, "History of the Christian Church, Volume II: Ante-Nicene Christianity. A.D. 100-325." Christian Classics Ethereal Library, p.545]
But even those early church fathers who embraced a thousand-year earthly reign, such as Irenaeus, generally believed that the Spiritual Israel, comprised of both Jews and Gentiles, would reign with Christ during his millennial kingdom; not the Jews.

Thus did [Abraham] await patiently the promise of God, and was unwilling to appear to receive from men, what God had promised to give him, when He said again to him as follows: "I will give this land to thy seed, from the river of Egypt even unto the great river Euphrates (Gen 15:18-21)." If, then, God promised him the inheritance of the land, yet he did not receive it during all the time of his sojourn there, it must be, that together with his seed, that is, those who fear God and believe in Him, he shall receive it at the resurrection of the just. For his [Abraham's] seed is the Church, which receives the adoption to God through the Lord, as John the Baptist said: "For God is able from the stones to raise up children to Abraham (Luke 3:8)." Thus also the apostle says in the Epistle to the Galatians: "But ye, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of the promise (Gal 4:28)." And again, in the same Epistle, he plainly declares that they who have believed in Christ do receive Christ, the promise to Abraham thus saying, 'The promises were spoken to Abraham, and to his seed. Now He does not say, And of seeds, as if [He spake] of many, but as of one. And to thy seed, which is Christ (Gal 3:16).'" [Roberts & Donaldson, Irenaeus, Against Heresies, "Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol 01: Apostolic Fathers." Charles Scribner's Sons, 1913, Book V.32.2, p.561]
Have you been labeling modern chiliasts, who also believe in dual-covenant theology, as heretics, as well?

.

Christ Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will remain there until He Comes at the end of the age at the last Day, to gather his people at the Resurrection/Rapture.

All His people at the same time!

He will be seen by ALL.

All will be JUDGED by Him.

28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Hebrews 9:28

...who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past;

17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity." 2 Timothy 2:17-19

JLB

Interplanner · Aug 17, 2014

JLB,
those passages aren't really answering what he is asking.

Is the current reign of Christ in place of a period on this earth (not the new heavens and earth) at some future point?

ebedmelech · Aug 17, 2014

The real question is how do you miss the thrust of Ezekiel 37...especially when you compare Ezekiel 37:26-28 to Revelation 21

26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will place them and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in their midst forever.
27 My dwelling place also will be with them; and I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.

Revelation 21:3, 4:
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,
4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.

How do you separate Ezekiel and Revelation anyway? They practically parallel each other!

dfw69 · Aug 17, 2014

ebedmelech said:
The real question is how do you miss the thrust of Ezekiel 37...especially when you compare Ezekiel 37:26-28 to Revelation 21

26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will place them and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in their midst forever.
27 My dwelling place also will be with them; and I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.

Revelation 21:3, 4:
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,
4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.

How do you separate Ezekiel and Revelation anyway? They practically parallel each other!

Hello ebed

They are not speaking of the same event ....these 2 scriptures are two speperate events...at two different times or eras..

One is the kingdom of Christ who makes a covenant with Israel.......ezek prophecies is set up when Jesus returns ...it concerns Israel...even mention by name...in contrast with the nation's...that the nation's will know that God is with Israel in that day

the other is when God is with men...all men ...all nations ....what is God's tabernacle?....a body is a tabernacle is it not.?..it's a refererance to God himself being with men....that God has a body ....and he is with men.....no longer seperated ...after the 1000 years of messiah on earth...then comes the father to live with men....in New Jerusalem....

ebedmelech · Aug 17, 2014

dfw69 said:
Hello ebed

They are not speaking of the same event ....these 2 scriptures are two speperate events...at two different times or eras..

One is the kingdom of Christ who makes a covenant with Israel.......ezek prophecies is set up when Jesus returns ...it concerns Israel...even mention by name...in contrast with the nation's...that the nation's will know that God is with Israel in that day

the other is when God is with men...all men ...all nations ....what is God's tabernacle?....a body is a tabernacle is it not.?..it's a refererance to God himself being with men....that God has a body ....and he is with men.....no longer seperated ...after the 1000 years of messiah on earth...then comes the father to live with men....in New Jerusalem....

Show the different eras...because neither speak of a time frame.

What do you think the "everlating covenant" is? It can only be Christ.

*"My Servant David" at Ezekiel 37:24 is Jesus.

*In Revelation 21:5...Jesus is sitting on the throne.

The only difference I see is Ezekiel prophesies the coming of Christ as "My Servant David"...while in Revelation 21 Christ is already on the throne.

dfw69 · Aug 17, 2014

ebedmelech said:
Show the different eras...because neither speak of a time frame.

Rev reveals two times frames ...one when jesus returns to place the beast and false phophet in the lake of fire...then rules 1000 years...then after the 1000 years Satan is loose for a season then the coming of new heaven new earth when gods tabernacle is with men...

What do you think the "everlating covenant" is? It can only be Christ.

yes the new covenant is Christ covenant that began at his death and resurrection...it is this covenant that will be offered to the nation of Israel again ....in the last days that will save Israel from total destruction from its last day enemies that will rise up against her...

*"My Servant David" at Ezekiel 37:24 is Jesus.

If you believe in resurrection...there is no reason to not beleive that David is also resurrected as well

In Revelation 21:5...Jesus is sitting on the throne.

are you sure?...the beginning of this revelation reveals God sitting on the throne....that in the end.. God is king upon the throne...I heard you before say that Jesus give all to the father that God is all in all...

When Jesus returns he is king of kings ....then rules a 1000 years ....then gives all to the father ...the father is king upon the throne....it is the father who judges the dead after the 1000 years

The only difference I see is Ezekiel prophesies the coming of Christ as "My Servant David"...while in Revelation 21 Christ is already on the throne.

Ezek reveals gods santuary and gods dwelling place with Israel....that is the temple built by Christ ....and the gospel will teach the world how to become a son of God...through Christ...this will last1000 years

In rev 21 ...there is no temple....no sanctuary....because the Lord is there and God is there....when one walks up to him ...they immediately bow to worship them.......cause they are with men forever.....no need of a temple anymore...

The temple represents God with man...only the glory of God will reside again in the new temple built by Jesus....but the actual presence of God will take place after the 1000 years...

Rev20 · Aug 17, 2014

JLB777 said:
Christ Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will remain there until He Comes at the end of the age at the last Day, to gather his people at the Resurrection/Rapture. All His people at the same time! He will be seen by ALL. All will be JUDGED by Him.

28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Hebrews 9:28

What happened to those poor saints that were resurrected along with Jesus?

"And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." -- Matt 27:52-53

Did they have to go back into their graves and wait for another resurrection? How does that work?

JLB777 said:
...who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past;

17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity." 2 Timothy 2:17-19

You are poisoning the well with a half-truth, JLB. Why not tell everyone the rest of the story: that those who claim the first resurrection occurred in AD70, AFTER PAUL WROTE ALL HIS BOOKS, could not possibly be like those false prophets Paul was referring to?

The truth is, what Paul was saying is, those who claim the resurrection of the New Covenant Saints occurred before he wrote that book are false prophets; not those who say the resurrection of the New Covenant Saints occurred afterward.

Is that deceitful talking point so important to your agenda that you will refuse to give it up?

.

ebedmelech · Aug 17, 2014

dfw69 said:
Rev reveals two times frames ...one when jesus returns to place the beast and false phophet in the lake of fire...then rules 1000 years...then after the 1000 years Satan is loose for a season then the coming of new heaven new earth when gods tabernacle is with men...

I think not. All you have is increased revelation between Ezekiel and Revelation because Christ has come and the Holy Spirit revealed more through the apostles. The NT does not focus on the nation of Israel after Acts 8. The focus shifts to the gospel going to Judea, Samaria, and the ends of the earth.

dfw69 said:
yes the new covenant is Christ covenant that began at his death and resurrection...it is this covenant that will be offered to the nation of Israel again ....in the last days that will save Israel from total destruction from its last day enemies that will rise up against her...

No. You don't find any covenant after the New Covenant. Hebrews tells you that in Hebrews 8 and 9...Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant, and ALL who come to Christ are Abraham's seed...they become citizens of the heavenly Jerusalem as Hebrew 12:22-24 clearly states.

dfw69 said:
If you believe in resurrection...there is no reason to not beleive that David is also resurrected as well

That's not the point though...the point is that the throne of David is Where Christ is NOW...Acts 2, Acts 13, Ephesians 1 18-21, Philippians 2:8-11, 1 Timothy 6:13-16, and Revelation 1:8.

dfw69 said:
are you sure?...the beginning of this revelation reveals God sitting on the throne....that in the end.. God is king upon the throne...I heard you before say that Jesus give all to the father that God is all in all...

That is after judgment...1 Corinthians 15:20-28...and Revelation 21:22-27 spells that out.

dfw69 said:
When Jesus returns he is king of kings ....then rules a 1000 years ....then gives all to the father ...the father is king upon the throne....it is the father who judges the dead after the 1000 years

No sir...Jesus is King of kings and Lord of Lords NOW. Peter said it pretty clear that UPON HIS RESURRECTION God made Jesus BOTH LORD AND CHRIST...you can't get any higher.

dfw69 said:
Ezek reveals gods santuary and gods dwelling place with Israel....that is the temple built by Christ ....and the gospel will teach the world how to become a son of God...through Christ...this will last1000 years

What do you think Revelation is revealing to you? Compare Ezekiel 40:2-5 and Revelation 21:10-14

dfw69 said:
In rev 21 ...there is no temple....no sanctuary....because the Lord is there and God is there....when one walks up to him ...they immediately bow to worship them.......cause they are with men forever.....no need of a temple anymore...

The temple represents God with man...only the glory of God will reside again in the new temple built by Jesus....but the actual presence of God will take place after the 1000 years...

The temple was the church, however judgment has occurred dfw69! Believers have been CHANGED as 1 Corinthians 15 says! They've given their glorified bodies! What need is the for a temple when you're in the PRESENCE of God and The Lamb?

The temple was there was to commune with God. In the OT the priest went into the temple once a year.

In the NT Christ became our High Priest upon His resurrection! Believers are the temple because God dwells in us by the Holy Spirit...however, in eternity God dwells with us just as Ezekiel and Revelation say...they speak of the same thing. The only difference is the view from Ezekiel's prophecy in 37 (which is before Christ), and John's prophecy which is after Christ was exalted to His throne...Just as God promised David.

*God promised it.

*Jesus received it (Matthew 28:18)

*Paul and Peter affirmed it.

*Jesus says it..."I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST..."

It gets no clearer than that.

Rev20 · Aug 17, 2014

ebedmelech said:
The real question is how do you miss the thrust of Ezekiel 37...especially when you compare Ezekiel 37:26-28 to Revelation 21

26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will place them and multiply them, and will set My sanctuary in their midst forever.
27 My dwelling place also will be with them; and I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.

Revelation 21:3, 4:
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,
4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.

I have considered that relationship. But God also made a similar statement early on:

"If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land. And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you. And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new. And I set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. I am the Lord your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright." -- Lev 26:3-13

And he made similar statements in Jeremiah during the Babylonian captivity:

"Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good. For I will set mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up. And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart. And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith the Lord, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt: And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them. And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers." -- Jer 24:4-10

"Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will give this city into the hand of the Chaldeans, and into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and he shall take it: And the Chaldeans, that fight against this city, shall come and set fire on this city, and burn it with the houses, upon whose roofs they have offered incense unto Baal, and poured out drink offerings unto other gods, to provoke me to anger. For the children of Israel and the children of Judah have only done evil before me from their youth: for the children of Israel have only provoked me to anger with the work of their hands, saith the Lord . . . And now therefore thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel, concerning this city, whereof ye say, It shall be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence; Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: And they shall be my people, and I will be their God: And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them: And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me." -- Jer 32: 28-30, 36-40

Similar statements are made in four or five chapters of Ezekiel, typically while in Babylonian captivity. Therefore, God's promise in Ezekiel (and Jeremiah) was simply a repeat of his promise to Israel in Leviticus. God's promise in the Revelation is to all nations: Jews and Gentiles.

ebedmelech said:
How do you separate Ezekiel and Revelation anyway? They practically parallel each other!

It is not too difficult to separate Ezekiel and Revelation. In fact, I see no parallels. For example, the Gog and Magog of Ezekiel are a king and his kingdom coming out of the north against Israel. The Gog and Magog of the Revelation are nations in the four quarters of the earth.

The Gog and Magog of Ezekiel come into battle riding horses and carrying wooden weapons against the nation of Israel. Not so for the Gog and Magog of the Revelation, which comes spiritually against the Church and the Saints.

The only presumed parallels are not parallels at all, but simply John (actually, Christ) recycling words from the old covenant.

.

Rev20 · Aug 17, 2014

ebedmelech said:
Show the different eras...because neither speak of a time frame.

What do you think the "everlating covenant" is? It can only be Christ.

*"My Servant David" at Ezekiel 37:24 is Jesus.

*In Revelation 21:5...Jesus is sitting on the throne.

The only difference I see is Ezekiel prophesies the coming of Christ as "My Servant David"...while in Revelation 21 Christ is already on the throne.

What is the time frame in Ezek 37? I believe it ranges from the return from Babylon (two sticks joined) to the resurrection of Christ (the new covenant came from the blood of Christ).

.

dfw69 · Aug 17, 2014

ebedmelech said:
I think not. All you have is increased revelation between Ezekiel and Revelation because Christ has come and the Holy Spirit revealed more through the apostles. The NT does not focus on the nation of Israel after Acts 8. The focus shifts to the gospel going to Judea, Samaria, and the ends of the earth.

No. You don't find any covenant after the New Covenant. Hebrews tells you that in Hebrews 8 and 9...Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant, and ALL who come to Christ are Abraham's seed...they become citizens of the heavenly Jerusalem as Hebrew 12:22-24 clearly states.

That's not the point though...the point is that the throne of David is Where Christ is NOW...Acts 2, Acts 13, Ephesians 1 18-21, Philippians 2:8-11, 1 Timothy 6:13-16, and Revelation 1:8.

That is after judgment...1 Corinthians 15:20-28...and Revelation 21:22-27 spells that out.

No sir...Jesus is King of kings and Lord of Lords NOW. Peter said it pretty clear that UPON HIS RESURRECTION God made Jesus BOTH LORD AND CHRIST...you can't get any higher.

What do you think Revelation is revealing to you? Compare Ezekiel 40:2-5 and Revelation 21:10-14

The temple was the church, however judgment has occurred dfw69! Believers have been CHANGED as 1 Corinthians 15 says! They've given their glorified bodies! What need is the for a temple when you're in the PRESENCE of God and The Lamb?

The temple was there was to commune with God. In the OT the priest went into the temple once a year.

In the NT Christ became our High Priest upon His resurrection! Believers are the temple because God dwells in us by the Holy Spirit...however, in eternity God dwells with us just as Ezekiel and Revelation say...they speak of the same thing. The only difference is the view from Ezekiel's prophecy in 37 (which is before Christ), and John's prophecy which is after Christ was exalted to His throne...Just as God promised David.

*God promised it.

*Jesus received it (Matthew 28:18)

*Paul and Peter affirmed it.

*Jesus says it..."I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST..."

It gets no clearer than that.

This is all good if your interpretation of the scriptures are true bro...it's not ..imo.....agree to disagree...

ebedmelech · Aug 17, 2014

dfw69 said:
This is all good if your interpretation of the scriptures are true bro...it's not ..imo.....agree to disagree...

We'll certainly see.

Interplanner · Aug 17, 2014

Be sure to include that Amos 9 is itnerped by Acts 15.

Day Of The Lord Old Testament fulfilments!

Partial Preterist

Newbie

Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

Newbie

My dog Micah in the pic

Newbie

Partial Preterist

Newbie

Newbie

My dog Micah in the pic

Pre-Tribulation Pre- False Messianic Age

My dog Micah in the pic

Pre-Tribulation Pre- False Messianic Age

Partial Preterist

My dog Micah in the pic

Partial Preterist

Partial Preterist

Pre-Tribulation Pre- False Messianic Age

My dog Micah in the pic

Newbie

Similar threads