Young voters may be turning Virginia blue

USincognito · Oct 31, 2013

SummerMadness said:
Here in NC, they closed a polling place on a college campus. Two reasons: students lean Democratic and it's a historically black university. It's sad that that so much is being done to prevent people from voting.

That was discussed in this thread after those efforts were made public.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7766618/

And it wasn't just one campus, but two.

Joykins · Oct 31, 2013

USincognito said:
How do they check the ID of the person who fills out the ballot by mail?

Well, funny you should mention that, apparently absentee ballots are where most voter fraud actually *happens*.

AceHero · Oct 31, 2013

USincognito said:
How do they check the ID of the person who fills out the ballot by mail?

Joykins said:

Well, funny you should mention that, apparently absentee ballots are where most voter fraud actually *happens*.

Click to expand...

And yet it's still very rare. In addition, vote-by-mail has shown to increase the voter turnout.

jgarden · Oct 31, 2013

Virginia is yet another state where the where the Republicans have undermined the democratic process by "gerrymandering" the House electoral districts in 2010.

During the 2012 election the Republicans received 1,876,761 (50.2%) of the popular vote but were rewarded with 8 of Virginia's 11 congressional seats in the House.

During the 2012 election the Democrats received 1,806,025 (48.3%) of the popular vote but received only 3 of Virginia's 11 congressional seats in the House.

In Virginia it takes 602 008 Democratic votes to obtain one congressional seat in the House, but only 234 595 Republican votes to obtain one congressional seat.

Instead of addressing this obvious inequity, the state Republicans are more interested in introducing voter ID - despite the fact that there has not been one reported case of voter impersonation in Virginia since 2000.

United States House of Representatives elections in Virginia, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Who Can Vote? - A News21 2012 National Project

USincognito · Oct 31, 2013

Joykins said:
Well, funny you should mention that, apparently absentee ballots are where most voter fraud actually *happens*.

Yeah, that was the implied point that imformed voters would get, but would fly over the heads of negative information voters.

jgarden · Nov 1, 2013

Joykins said:
Well, funny you should mention that, apparently absentee ballots are where most voter fraud actually *happens*.

The only case of absentee ballot fraud in Virginia since 2000 was that of a campaign official in 2006 - Ben Ellis Cooper.

Cooper, the ex-mayor of Appalachia, was charged with election fraud including vote buying, absentee ballot fraud and campaign fraud.

There have been only 35 reported cases of election fraud in Virginia since 2000.

http://votingrights.news21.com/interactive/election-fraud-database/

Cjwinnit · Nov 2, 2013

USincognito said:
This isn't about making sure people who can't vote don't. It's about making sure that eligible voters Conservatives don't want voting have a hard time doing so.

How?

WalksWithChrist · Nov 2, 2013

A2SG said:
The main problem with voter ID laws is they're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist in a way that doesn't fix it.

The end result is voter suppression. Period.

-- A2SG, and don't be fooled, that's the real intent....

Discuss all you want. Ask all the questions you want. It all comes back to what AS2G has said here.

Plain and simple.

Anovah · Nov 2, 2013

Sistrin said:
The voter suppression laws canard is exactly that, a canard. Liberal Democrats promote this meme in order to heard particular groups of people into fearing the evil Republican menace coming to take everything away from them. But it is nothing but a cold calculated lie proffered again and again by a political party advancing an agenda.

Democrats are agenda advancing liars while Republicans would NEVER do such a thing (I do declare). Got it

And the lie continues. My God, you want us to believe a college student who had no trouble getting both a driver's license and a University ID somehow is incapable of showing either at the voting booth?

It's pretty weird isn't it? Not being able to use your student ID but things like an NRA card is totally legit.

Why do you suppose that's the case when you yourself advocate student ID's?

Anovah · Nov 2, 2013

WalksWithChrist said:
Discuss all you want. Ask all the questions you want. It all comes back to what AS2G has said here.

Plain and simple.

I'll second that motion.

Touma · Nov 2, 2013

FYI, the voting ID requirements are as follows:

**Virginia voter registration card
**Valid Virginia driver's license
**Military ID
**Any Federal, Virginia state or local government-issued ID
**Employer issued photo ID card
**Concealed handgun permit
**Valid student ID issued by any institution of higher education located in the Commonwealth of Virginia
**Current utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck indicating the name and address of the voter
**Social Security card (*please note the social security card does not satisfy special federal ID requirements)

I would think this is a fair set to have. Trying to reduce it down past this would almost certainly be an attempt to prevent certain legal voting groups from getting to the ballot box.

USincognito · Nov 3, 2013

Cjwinnit said:
How?

Go back and read the bit of my quote you snipped instead of quoting.

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