Number of Illegal Migrants Growing

What if you identify yourself as white, but you live on the tribes land? Do I have to leave?

I'm all for getting rid of the illegals. I'm tired of having to bring in my car at night for fear of mexicans driving without insurance and damaging it.
I'm tired of my money being wasted on producing bilingual documents. I'm tired of children getting a free education on my money... when their parents aren't even US citizens.

The fact some of our ancestors took or bought land from other of our ancestors doesn't matter, what matters now is we are being RIPPED OFF by guttless politicians who are bribed into looking the other way when it comes to illegal aliens because it BENEFITS COMPANIES.
I'm so glad some fruit company is making money by paying their workers squat and I get to pay to support their children, I get to pay to pay for government services so that company can get richer and the illegals get to send all their money back home to Mexico so they can make more babies to send up here.

I'm not European-American, I'm not Native American, I'm an American and these people aren't.

oh yes, it's a problem that needs to be solved with care, but putting them all out of the country? isn't that just a bit inhumane? we've got to think in terms of their situations too.... what we experience may very well be far better than what they have been through. We're very fortunate indeed.

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
since when does a illeagel ailean have the right to collect SSI benifets And Social Security? and get free health care

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An illegal maybe able to get free health care but they would not be able to collect any social security funds. In order to get a social security number you have to have a work permit from INS. If you do not have a work permit, it does not matter if your legal or illegal, you can not get a social security number.

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
yes deport them if they are here illegaly 

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You can deport them if they are willing to go. If they appeal, it can get tied up in the court system for years.

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
The federal government reimburses state and local governments for some of the outlay but not nearly enough to cover L.A. County's costs.

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I don't beleive it. The countys are making money to house prisoners for State and Federal governments. The amount they get can range from $36 to $70 a day. So it is only natural that they are going to try and make it look like they are losing money in order to try and get more money out of the federal government.

Every other country makes money housing INS prisoners. It's big business and if LA does not want the contract there are lots of other countrys that would be glad to house those prisoners.

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
yes deport them if they are here illegaly

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How much do you think that would cost?  Even if it were a possibility to find all of the UDI's, the cost of deporting them would be phenomenal in comparison to what is paid to house the small percentage that are felons.   

which whould be what?

what about our situation?

what have they been through that s so terrible
that we have to support them ?

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I'm assuming by your posts that you have never set foot outside the good ol' US of A.   

what have they been through that s so terrible
that we have to support them ?

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*sigh*

I'm assuming by your posts that you have never set foot outside the good ol' US of A.

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i quite agree with ya, Dewjunkie, especially after hearing my cousin's mission trip to China. Persecution in terms of religion or non-religion; opportunities that never exist due to the greediness of the higher ranks; unfair oppression; poverty beyond imagination; orphans being orphaned because the parents didn't have enough money to pay for surgery for the child.....

having mercy, helping others in need is the foremost duty for us as Christians (equal with spreading the gospel), Soldier_of _God. The world is much much more than your eye can see.

Originally posted by Blessed-one
having mercy, helping others in need is the foremost duty for us as Christians (equal with spreading the gospel), Soldier_of _God. The world is much much more than your eye can see.

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Well said, Blessed-one.  If only more Americans could see what true poverty is.        

here's one.

Exodus 22:21 NIV Quest Bible

"Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt."

1. yeah, it's not right to judge you.
2. hopefully...we were just voicing our opinions also.
3. are our beliefs...if we oppose you...wrong?'
4. as for me, i don't really care for links to "prove you wrong". i just wanted to post my view, see if anything comes out of it, and that's it. for me, i believe [what i do] because i could never kick anyone out...even an illegal alien.

1. my conscious wouldn't allow me.
2. i know that america is blessed materially...at least more than other countries. and the people that i see as migrating here illegally are desperate. they're trying to leave poverty or war in their country, and they think that the only way to make situations better is to sneak over. i've read already how horrible the immigration process is, and how rude they are to these immigrants. i lived pretty close to juarez the first 18 years of my life, and that city isn't in the greatest conditions. and many people DID sneak over to our city. but...desperate people do stupid things.
3. i feel that there are better ways to go about it. instead of turning them away and sending them back to nothing...help them. instead of hassling them because he's a burden, teach them how to live. money is wasted in so many ways...why is it so bad when it goes to help people?
4. and i also do believe that the bible tells us to feed the hungry...even our enemies. even though these illegal immigrants aren't our enemies, i feel that that verse is just showing that we should help everyone out. that we shouldn't turn our backs on them.


but anyways, the main purpose of this post wasn't to "change anyone's opinion". but i just wanted to state why my (or anybody's else's) beliefs on this issue doesn't make me "anti-american". it's just what i believe. and me believing this doesn't mean i'm denying my citizenship - whatever that means.

but anyways...i'm out. no more replies from me.

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
aparently since ppl feel the need to get off topic i t whould tell me that you all are avoiding the iileagel alien problem

and you dont mind sharing the road with someone who cant speak or read english

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Not only do I not mind sharing the road with them, I honor the priveledge of communing and worshiping God with them. I also honor their work ethics, and the willingness to do whatever it takes to care for their families back in their native lands.

Perhaps you don't live in a region where immigrant workers who are the ONLY ones who will perform certain tasks...
i.e. vegetable & fruit harvesting, hay harvesting, and balling trees in the tree farms...

you won't see any locals performing the work....

Originally posted by Soldier_of _God
do you think american indians are the only natives of america?
well then i guess that means you have to move becasue you are living on thier land plus what does that have to do with illeagel aliens coming over here sucking up our money by

stealing ssns to get on social security this thread is about how we are being invaded by ppl who do not respect our laws do not respet our law enforcement officers ,cultures. language and trash our national parks with thier human feces and garbage

which in turn creates a breeding ground for diseases

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1. Native Americans are the only TRUE natives in the Americas.
2. Everyone else moved in, sucked up our land, resources, hunted the buffalo to extinction, did not respect our laws or customs, when we complained we were relocated.
and let us not forget the polio infested blankets sent by the US army to some Native tribes as the 'final solution'... (hitler flashbacks)


oh yeah... Europeans brought disease to this land first... NOT Mexicans or Hispanics...

Ever hear of the Golden Rule?

Originally posted by Smilin
1. Native Americans are the only TRUE natives in the Americas.
2. Everyone else moved in, sucked up our land, resources, hunted the buffalo to extinction, did not respect our laws or customs, when we complained we were relocated.
and let us not forget the polio infested blankets sent by the US army to some Native tribes as the 'final solution'... (hitler flashbacks)


oh yeah... Europeans brought disease to this land first... NOT Mexicans or Hispanics...

Ever hear of the Golden Rule?

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We are not our ancestors.

We are not our ancestors.

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no, but soldier of god thinks alot like them

progress isn't in his dictionary (assuming he has one, his spelling suggests otherwise)