Sobering Realization

strelok0017 · Apr 21, 2013

I am not a real convert. I have had numerous experiences of false conversions and after one or two weeks of seeming victory against sin being completely either unwilling or unable to give up something. Few days ago, perhaps even a week, I realized that my mind started focusing on earthly stuff and long story short, I can't give up on cake right now. I am at the end of myself. I hope. I'm asking God to save me even as only through fire because at this point that's the only way it is possible.

What do I do now? How do you approach God and make sure your prayer is heard?

It's not my intention to whine so I apologize if this sounds like it. Also, one more question. How do I know my eating of cake is a sin (focusing on the flesh in other words) or not?

The Fire Rises · Apr 21, 2013

How often do you eat cake? Like evey day?

Cake isn't inherently "evil", anymore than alcohol is. It's fine to eat in moderation. Heck I've seen my church's head pastor eat a couple pieces at a party - pretty sure he had a beer too. So I'm not sure why you're feeling so guilty over this?

strelok0017 · Apr 21, 2013

Cake isn't the point here. It's just a small example I wanted to use to illustrate something. I know I'm guilty of being earthly minded and the Bible says that mind set on the flesh is death. Internet has this inconsistency because personal contact with people is obviously different but I can't bother people at Church so I ask here.

How do I approach God now and make sure my prayer is heard?

The Fire Rises · Apr 21, 2013

So you're worried about being to "worldly" in general? Besides cake, what is causing this concern for you? Because it's kind of hard to give helpful info when the question is kind of vague to be honest

BFine · Apr 21, 2013

Why can't you ask questions at church?
or inquire of some of the mature Christians about
some of the issues or questions that are bothering you?

strelok0017 · Apr 21, 2013

I want to know how to approach God now so that He accepts me. Faith alone is what I believe but the result thereof is something I gotta wait for and I can't just sit around.

strelok0017 · Apr 21, 2013

@BFine: I believe people have enough griefs in their life, they don't really need me to be there too. I want to help and I'm glad if others don't mind me doing so but I don't want to grieve others.

SharonL · Apr 21, 2013

If you have ask Jesus to be the Lord of your life and repented of your sins, you can be assured your name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life - we all fall short, but God does not erase our name, we just repent and move on.

The Bible tells us that if you ask for a fish, God does not give you a snake (or something like that) but it means have faith that God hears your prayers because He tells us He does. When you feel like you have fallen, turn back to Jesus quickly, ask for forgiveness and just know that Jesus is by your side. The Bible tell sus that Jesus is closer than your shadow and only a heartbeat away and He is your friend, talk to Him like a friend. Just stay close to Him and your faith will grow. He hears your prayers.

Albion · Apr 21, 2013

strelok0017 said:
I am not a real convert. I have had numerous experiences of false conversions and after one or two weeks of seeming victory against sin being completely either unwilling or unable to give up something. Few days ago, perhaps even a week, I realized that my mind started focusing on earthly stuff and long story short, I can't give up on cake right now. I am at the end of myself. I hope. I'm asking God to save me even as only through fire because at this point that's the only way it is possible.

What do I do now? How do you approach God and make sure your prayer is heard?

It's not my intention to whine so I apologize if this sounds like it. Also, one more question. How do I know my eating of cake is a sin (focusing on the flesh in other words) or not? As for the question about God hearing you, he will always hear you if you reach out to him in any fashion.

There's something missing in this account, for we do not convert to being sinless or angelic but to being a disciple of Christ, which means the intention to follow the Savior and trust in him. If you never slipped up, you wouldn't be a genuine believer; you'd be a superhuman.

strelok0017 · Apr 21, 2013

It's not just a slip up but a fixation on the world. Anyway, thanks.

BFine · Apr 21, 2013

How do you view asking us questions as being so different?

I'm a real person, although unknown to you personally, I
have stuff going on in my life but I like others on here, set aside time to
help out on this forum.

As for God hearing our prayers, He hears the voice of his child who
repents.
We who sought the Lord for salvation are saved not because we work so hard
at doing good it is because we have put our trust in Christ, we have his righteousness
imparted to us. In our own strength we can't accomplish much.
We are to fully rely on the Lord and follow Him...this "following" the Lord
brings us into godliness.

If we fall short/miss the mark, IE...sin, we are to repent of that sin
and get back to relying on the Lord and "following Him".

Check it out:
How can I take control of my thoughts?

strelok0017 · Apr 21, 2013

I view it differently because in my experience there are less repercussions in being ignored online or liked online than in personal contact with people. You are right in that if we sin, we are to repent and move on. Or repent and start in the first place. Thanks for taking time.

BFine · Apr 21, 2013

I use to belong to another forum and there was a whole continuous thread
about being wronged/hurt online and how folks were continuing to feel
the loss or hurt from an online friend or relationship and the hurt experienced
from being ignored or slighted online.
Many said it was just like being hurt in person... interesting
to come across someone who doesn't hold that opinion.

SharonL · Apr 21, 2013

Actually being online has helped me - people say things on line that they would not say face to face. At first it really hurt and I would pull back and stop posting for awhile, but now I can take it - if you really want to learn to take it - get in the political forum LOL - I've pulled back from there for awhile - still have to take that in spurts. Words don't have a way of lightening the impact, but it does help toughen us up.

The Fire Rises · Apr 21, 2013

I still think some specific examples would help us give you better advice.
(besides cake)

seeingeyes · Apr 21, 2013

strelok0017 said:
I am not a real convert. I have had numerous experiences of false conversions and after one or two weeks of seeming victory against sin being completely either unwilling or unable to give up something. Few days ago, perhaps even a week, I realized that my mind started focusing on earthly stuff and long story short, I can't give up on cake right now. I am at the end of myself. I hope. I'm asking God to save me even as only through fire because at this point that's the only way it is possible.

What do I do now? How do you approach God and make sure your prayer is heard?

It's not my intention to whine so I apologize if this sounds like it. Also, one more question. How do I know my eating of cake is a sin (focusing on the flesh in other words) or not?

You start relying on your Father in heaven to save you through the sacrifice of Christ, instead of relying on your ability to impress Him with your own sacrifice.

No matter how much you give up, you won't give up more than Jesus did. So quit trying.

Take a deep breath and lean back in His love. Trust Him. And then watch yourself become trustworthy just as He is. Watch yourself become a living sacrifice for others, just as His son is.

Get out of the way and watch Him work.

strelok0017 · Apr 22, 2013

The Fire Rises said:
I still think some specific examples would help us give you better advice.
(besides cake)

There are no other examples I can think of. Only that one feels like thorns around my heart sometimes. I discovered that those thorns are actually desires that may be in the way of my coming to the Kingdom.

strelok0017 · Apr 22, 2013

@seeingeyes: Thanks. What do you suggest about cakes then?

madetoworship · Apr 22, 2013

Do you know that Jesus Christ died for all of your sins? Including your eating cake habit? No matter how big or small that sin is?

Do you believe in this and are you willing to make Jesus the Lord of your life?

Sketcher · Apr 22, 2013

God is all-knowing. He WILL hear your prayer.

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