What stereotype about your gender do you dislike the most?

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Another stereotype I hate: that men are slobs.

This stereotype is two-fold. The first, being that men don't care about living in pig-sty's, leaving food lying around the room, having to be prompted to clean up...stupid. You'll NEVER see me living in a sty...and that's regardless of whether I have a wife or not.

The second, is even more annoying: that men don't shower. I mostly hear this from female stand-up comics. This brings up an obvious question: how do men get women, if we care so little about our hygiene? Last I checked, a clean man is a desirable trait for women. I'll admit, I do slack on shaving; but my hygiene is far above just par, and will be so till I die.
 
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I'll have to agree with the other women's lists of stereotypes that drive them batty and add a few more that also bother me:

I SAHM, and am asked often what I do with my time... as if there really is nothing else to do all day long. I clean, I cook, I do laundry, I watch some tv and do some surfing online - but most of it is research in regards to our dietary needs as well as parenting needs. - People assume that being a SAHM I don't do anything but tend the children and of course, you get Mickey-Mouse'd out by the end of the day. (this does happen sometimes - but not all the time!)

I have celiac, so the stereotype that I don't "eat real food". I eat more "real food" than most people who eat a standard processed diet. Sure, we do buy some bread, pasta and dessert once in a while that is processed - but the bulk of everything I do at home is made from scratch. I have taught myself how to make yogurt, how to transfer regular recipes to healthier gluten free versions, and I have learned how to cook vegetables correctly to retain their nutrients.

I've had a pediatrician stereotype that because I'm American - I'm into fad diets (I'm not!).
I have the other pediatrician assuming that because I'm an American mother, I use "Dr Google" for everything, rather than that I actually have experience with issues and had done legitimate research. I just know what to look for because I've lived with the issue we were discussing for so long. But the stereotype is that I am a "first time mom" who is "overprotective" and "into fad diets" - "like all Americans" :sorry: :doh:

There are so many stereotypes about Americans, that I have been forever sorting out something or other..
 
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Ha, MM, I hear you on the "nationality" stereotypes. As a Brit abroad, I have heard it all too. I think some people really think that everyone in England is related to the queen, or will have met the queen, or must love the royal family. Um, none of the above. When people were getting up at 4am to watch the Royal Wedding, I was sleeping in, and tried to go the whole day without seeing or hearing anything about it - which didn't work as, yes, my British pals/family on FB were going on about "what about that hat?" Grrrrr. But I don't like any of those people (royals, not my family, hee hee.) I also don't know that person from Liverpool you once met, and no I haven't been to some tiny town in Scotland that your great-grandparents came from. I also hate blood sausage, in fact never even when I ate meat would I have come near to eating it. <shudder> Y'all don't know northern and southern British stereotypes so I won't even go into that, but suffice to say I never owned a whippet or wore a flat cap. :) (Athene and Sailor will get that.)

As a vegetarian, I don't hate meat eaters, I just don't want to eat meat. You don't have to go "ooooooh" when you order a steak and look at me for a reaction, because I really don't care if you choose to fill your gut with red meat.

As another person with celiac, yeah, it's a huge change in your life when you switch over to gluten free, but it can be done, and it's not the end of the world. My husband is currently all with the drama because we're fairly convinced that the youngest child also has celiac - the blood test is unreliable, and the other tests too invasive - and so we're treating him accordingly. But he can have such a wide variety of other foods, and it just happens that in San Antonio we have this wonderful little bakery that makes the most amazing gluten free bread. :thumbsup: But what irritates me is those people who say that gluten free is the latest fad. Maybe for some people it is - but I don't understand why, because it's not about being more healthy or losing weight! It's about not having diarreah three times a week (how I used to be!) or stomach pains, or constipation .. so don't stereotype everyone who says they have gone gluten free as being into a "fad".
 
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Living in the south, many people expect that I should know how to work on cars. I'm horrible at working on cars, but saying that has gotten me strange looks in the past. I know my limitations well enough to know that I would only compound any problems I even attempted to correct on a vehicle.

I SAHM, and am asked often what I do with my time... as if there really is nothing else to do all day long. I clean, I cook, I do laundry, I watch some tv and do some surfing online - but most of it is research in regards to our dietary needs as well as parenting needs. - People assume that being a SAHM I don't do anything but tend the children and of course, you get Mickey-Mouse'd out by the end of the day. (this does happen sometimes - but not all the time!)

My wife is a SAHM right now. I would be as insulted by that as she would be b/c I know that she does quite a bit at home and stays busy.

Ha, MM, I hear you on the "nationality" stereotypes. As a Brit abroad, I have heard it all too. I think some people really think that everyone in England is related to the queen, or will have met the queen, or must love the royal family.

JaneFW: I saw this pic the other day and was instantly reminded of it when I read this [edit: can't get the image to embed...]

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3oc9u8/
 
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Being from Seattle area, the land of coffee/latte's (Seattle's Best Coffee, Starbucks, etc.), microbrews, and seafood, people assume I like these things.

Can't stand the two former, and grilled salmon and fish and chips are about all the seafood I'll eat.

Also agree with the stereotype about men and directions. I'll ask when necessary, but I am one of the fortunate men with a built in GPS in my head. (Just kidding!)

Another one I dislike is that men just want sex, as if the physical act and release is all that matters.
 
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I hate the stereotype that men don't cry or do poetry/dance...as if being a bulky dude who loves sports or hunting is the only definition of manhood.

I also hate the stereotype saying that men are not physically affectionate to other guys...ESPECIALLY amongst believers. Whenever that gets brought up, this immediately comes to mind:


John 13:22-24
Now there was leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24 Simon Peter therefore motioned to him to ask who it was of whom He spoke.

Jesus was with John up on his chest..and that can easily be seen as "effeminate." and I'm curious as to why so much focus is given to be "masculine" when the definition is not necessarily universal. I think its simply a matter of cultural concerns.

In practical example, let us consider the subject of homosexuality. Many assume that those for same-sex attraction show affection to one another...... and sadly, alot of people confuse showing affection for being “gay”—and that may have alot to do with why guys battle often with same sex attraction. I know that many households involving a lack of godly physical touch often were noted by those in same sex relationships as a reason why they struggled..

If someone is starved of food, they may end up being so desperate that they’ll eat from the trash can…as hunger has no conscience. And even though the food is bad, at least it satisfies. Likewise, in our culture, we’ve so been lacking in the area of knowing how to have masculine touch—-be it due to thinking stereotypes of men are what God considers godly (i.e. “Real men aren’t affectionate”, “Real men don’t hug..”, “Real men don’t cry..”, etc) or thinking that “MACHO” is true manhood—-that others will go for what’s immediately available within the “homosexual” community.

As much as others try to paint Jesus as this person of extreme bravado and those in the scriptures (aka: Paul, John, etc) as these “manly” men who were never emotional except when it came to wanting to live radical for Christ, I must say that its interesting to see how PHYSICAL those in the scriptures were.

In the OT, kissing was normal between males (Genesis 27:26-28, Genesis 45:14-16, Genesis 48:9-11, Genesis 50:1-3, Exodus 4:26-28, Exodus 18:6-8 , 1 Samuel 10:1-3, 2 Samuel 19:38-40 , Psalm 2:11-12, etc ). And with Christ, has anyone ever considered why it was significant that Christ was betrayed by Judas with a Kiss ( Matthew 26:47-49, Matthew 26:48-50, Mark 14:43-45, Mark 14:44-46 , Luke 7:44-46, Luke 22:47-49, Acts 20:36-38 )? For it wasn’t just a quick peck on the cheek, but a sign of deep friendship back in the day….especially if considering the Greek wording/context of kiss….and in light of how Christ called Judas “Friend” afterward ( Matthew 26:49-51 ) and asked “You betray the Son of Man with a Kiss?”

Outside, John was literally on the bossum of Christ, laid up on him…..and of course, there’s the classic command to “greet each other with a holy kiss” that we often forget in our homophobic culture. The issue of “holy KISSES” is interesting to study since the church at Rome was instructed not only to greet one another, but explicitly—“with a holy kiss.” You find This command not only once, but 5 times in the New Testament (1 Corinthians 16:20; 2 Corinthians 13:12; 1 Thessalonians 5:26 and 1 Peter 5:14.)…..& if you’ve ever been to Europe, they seem to have no problem expressing it in what seems to be a most GODLY WAY.

The same thing goes for Brazilian culture when it comes to the ways males interact with older male relatives (i.e. grandfathers, uncles, etc)—as kissing ALONGSIDE hugging are considered to be normal amongst them as ways of showing affection….and counter to how conservative we are in the States, to avoid doing so would be considered insulting. For more on that subject, one can either go here or they can go online/investigate the following:



With the Holy Kiss subject, many commentators believe that this was either a greeting performed in coordination with the liturgical rites of the church (i.e., the Lord’s Supper) or it was simply a standard greeting performed at normal greeting times. Favoring the latter is the point that in the Jewish and Greco-Roman world, a kiss was used as “a form of social respect” used to greet other parties. [Dunn, Romans commentary, 898; Black, 212].

As it stands, I find it interesting that even today, in many non-western cultures that do not share “our obsession with the sexual”, greeting one another with a kiss is still a common practice. Throughout Russia, Greece, Romania, and the Middle East, it is quite common to see Orthodox Christians greet each other with a kiss. Of course, its not a big kiss on the lips, mind you, but a light kiss on each cheek…..the equivalent of a handshake – with nothing sexual about it. If aware of what goes down in the Mafia where the Godfather kisses his agents/servants (with it being understood that resisting is an insult leading to death), it makes even more sense as to why seeing kissing between males on certain things can be quite “macho”

Likewise, throughout many regions of Africa, it is very common for people of the same sex (both Christians and non-Christians) to hold hands. Again, there’s nothing sexual about it since its just a way of showing friendship. It’s really a shame that people in this country are so obsessed with sex that they assume that every other culture in the world (and throughout history) is as well.

Something else worth noting is that with the “greeting each other with a holy kiss”, this was a greeting performed in coordination with the liturgical rites of the church (i.e., the Lord’s Supper), that, at least in the Orthodox Church, is still a part of the Liturgy. In the ancient Church, the “Kiss of Peace” took place among all the faithful of the congregation. Again, it consisted of a light kiss on each cheek. In the Orthodox Church today, the Kiss of Peace only occurs between the clergy during the Liturgy in 99% of the churches, although there are a few that still practice it throughout the entire congregation.


I’ve experienced the “holy kiss” deal myself…both in my time within Eastern Christian circles and in other places. One time I experienced it was kind of awkward when it happened. It was with someone who was the leader of a social justice agency called 7 Bridges…and the man was an ex-convict who had a RADICAL EXPERIENCE in PRISION WITH CHRIST, & did HOMELESS MINISTRY.

This is the kat I'm talking about:



Imagine a bulky, 6.5 FOOT, TATOOED DUDE coming up to give you a hug and kiss on a check…..& when trying to resist, having him tell you, “Brah, don’t play like that…..Bible says I gots to do this.” (which is what happened).

Holy Kisses aside, not many guys are even comfortable giving things such as hugs, crying, and being affectionate to one another…..& what’s saddening is that the Bible doesn’t seem to support the mentality ONE BIT, yet entire sermons have been made in defense saying “That’s just how men are.” I contend that just how men have been raised to think.

Look at David & Jonathan friendship (to the point of ENORMOUS SELF-SACRIFICE/DEDICATION & affection….even to the point of, hugging & KISSING, (I Samuel 18:1-4, 1 Samuel 18:1-3/ 1 Samuel 18, I Samuel 20:1-18, 1 Samuel 20:16-18 , 1 Samuel 20:40-42).
2 Samuel 1:25-27 / 2 Samuel 1
25 “How the mighty have fallen in the midst of the battle!
Jonathan was slain in your high places.
26 I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan;
You have been very pleasant to me;
Your love to me was wonderful,
Surpassing the love of women. 27 “How the mighty have fallen,
And the weapons of war perished


Look at the characteristics of Colossians 3:12-13 , I Peter 3:8).

WIth Jonathan and David, I've often seen others try to say that their relationship was indicative of a same-sex relationship--though they were married/had very HIGH sex drives for their wives....and I would argue that what they had was indicative of something that we in our times don't understand when it comes to knowing what true affection looks like..

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For more info, where I based my views:
Though I’ve been blessed to have this type of friendships in my life, I’m sadden for how many men have literally be ROBBED of this type of INTIMACY & have been trained to see it as UN-MASCULINE.


For a good article on the issue, one can go online to the ministry of Boundless and look up the following:

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I just saw a video clip online. It was a commercial. A man with long hair leads two younger men in saying grace. He thanks God for the bounty of combos with nacho cheese and some other flavor, and prays that Dallas will cover the spread this weekend.

It shows them dig into the combos and says, "Combos, what your mom would feed you, if she were a man."
 
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I just saw a video clip online. It was a commercial. A man with long hair leads two younger men in saying grace. He thanks God for the bounty of combos with nacho cheese and some other flavor, and prays that Dallas will cover the spread this weekend.

It shows them dig into the combos and says, "Combos, what your mom would feed you, if she were a man."
That's actually pretty funny.
 
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I just saw a video clip online. It was a commercial. A man with long hair leads two younger men in saying grace. He thanks God for the bounty of combos with nacho cheese and some other flavor, and prays that Dallas will cover the spread this weekend.

It shows them dig into the combos and says, "Combos, what your mom would feed you, if she were a man."
Hilarious....:D
 
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What about you guys?

I'm a girl first of all, not a "guy". Please do not lump me in your gender. Now that's out of the way I dislike it when others think girls aren't into sports. I played sports growing up and follow both college and professional sports now. It's my hubby that does not like watching sports ^_^ He prefers building things.
 
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Oh no......maybe THEY have the wrong kind of GPS :)

That's what happened with OnSTar.....it told us one time to go west, when I just ignored it and went east. West was the opposite direction we needed to go, fortunately it was a straight shot from there. Another time with OnStar, it told me to take an exit from the freeway that wasn't there.......nor was there one prior to it for 10 miles....or after. Lifetime updates are great.....especially in California where roads change often.

I was in the car with my granbabys mama recently and the GPS was saying 'destination to the left"..destination to te left"..and our DESTINATION was staring us in the face clearly to the RIGHT..obvioulsy it didnt mess us up because we were right in front of it and could see from the street the building we were trying to get to was to the right...but it made me definately not trust those things..

Even though mapquest is also imperfect ..I prefer a map quest and a compass...LOL!!..

Dallas
 
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Another stereotype I hate: that men are slobs.

This stereotype is two-fold. The first, being that men don't care about living in pig-sty's, leaving food lying around the room, having to be prompted to clean up...stupid. You'll NEVER see me living in a sty...and that's regardless of whether I have a wife or not.

The second, is even more annoying: that men don't shower. I mostly hear this from female stand-up comics. This brings up an obvious question: how do men get women, if we care so little about our hygiene? Last I checked, a clean man is a desirable trait for women. I'll admit, I do slack on shaving; but my hygiene is far above just par, and will be so till I die.

For what its worth I have 3 sons adn one husband (so 4 men 3 of them still live with me )..2 sons are big time slobs..my husband is an absolute neat freak and has been known to take 2 showers in a day(he always showers first thing in the morning and he will shower again if he happens to get sweaty somehow)...my youngest son is very maticulate..his collectables he has in his room are kept in a manner it looks like its a retail shop...hes the only one of my sons who on any regular basis also makes his bed...and just last week he took a second shower for the day becasue we went down to the creek and he insisted in case he had any contact with poison oak or ivy..(I on the other hand just washed my hands and threw cation to the wind)....

Anyway so right there thats 50/50 in my small little group of men..2 slobs and 2 neat freaks..:DTeh thing is the ones that are SLOBS then why woudl I say "well thats just how men are"?Or attribute it to the fact they have a penis?I dont think it has ANYTHING to do with it..unless children are BROUGHT up beleiving they are likely to be this way or that way BECAUSE of their gender..and if the parents buy into that and model it for them..

Dallas
 
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