Galatians 6:3-4

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3If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else,

Any ideas where pride becomes a good thing?
 

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I think pride is one of those things that is good in moderation. Think of it this way:
If you work hard on something, the end result is something you can be proud of. This doesn't mean "Hey look at me and how great I am!", but it does mean we don't need to look at ourselves and accomplishments with an attitude of "Well that's a piece of garbage because I'm just a no-good nobody".

Also, it's good to be proud of God.

I once went through a series on the Seven Deadly Sins in church. Our pastor at the time said that each of them actually starts as a good gift from God. Pride enough to have confidence in one's self, abilities, and calling, is good. Overbearing pride where it's "look how great I am" is not, and neither is being so un-prideful that you never think you can do anything worthwhile. Same with greed, even. Greed enough to want to eat and sustain yourself is good. Greed that takes from others so you have excess is not, and neither is giving so much that you starve and have absolutely nothing and cannot sustain your life. (The list goes on, hopefully you get the idea).

So basically, moderation is key, I think.
 
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Commentary on the Epistle to the Galatians
by Martin Luther


VERSE 3. For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

Again the Apostle takes the authors of sects to task for being hard-hearted tyrants. They despise the weak and demand that everything be just so. Nothing suits them except what they do. Unless you eulogize whatever they say or do, unless you adapt yourself to their slightest whim, they become angry with you. They are that way because, as St. Paul says, they "think themselves to be something," they think they know all about the Scriptures.

Paul has their number when he calls them zeros. They deceive themselves with their self-suggested wisdom and holiness. They have no understanding of Christ or the law of Christ. By insisting that everything be perfect they not only fail to bear the burdens of the weak, they actually offend the weak by their severity. People begin to hate and shun them and refuse to accept counsel or comfort from them.

Paul describes these stiff and ungracious saints accurately when he says of them, "They think themselves to be something." Bloated by their own silly ideas and schemes they entertain a pretty fair opinion of themselves, when in reality they amount to nothing.

VERSE 4. But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

In this verse the Apostle continues his attack upon the vainglorious sectarians. Although this passage may be applied to any work, the Apostle has in mind particularly the work of the ministry.

The trouble with these seekers after glory is that they never stop to consider whether their ministry is straightforward and faithful. All they think about is whether people will like and praise them. Theirs is a threefold sin. First, they are greedy of praise. Secondly, they are very sly and wily in suggesting that the ministry of other pastors is not what it should be. By way of contrast they hope to rise in the estimation of the people. Thirdly, once they have established a reputation for themselves they become so chesty that they stop short of nothing. When they have won the praise of men, pride leads them on to belittle the work of other men and to applaud their own. In this artful manner they hoodwink the people who rather enjoy to see their former pastors taken down a few notches by such upstarts.

"Let a minister be faithful in his office," is the apostolic injunction. "Let him not seek his own glory or look for praise. Let him desire to do good work and to preach the Gospel in all its purity. Whether an ungrateful world appreciates his efforts is to give him no concern because, after all, he is in the ministry not for his own glory but for the glory of Christ."

A faithful minister cares little what people think of him, as long as his conscience approves of him. The approval of his own good conscience is the best praise a minister can have. To know that we have taught the Word of God and administered the sacraments rightly is to have a glory that cannot be taken away.

The glory which the sectarians seek is quite unstable, because it rests in the whim of people. If Paul had had to depend on this kind of glory for his ministry he would have despaired when he saw the many offenses and evils following in the wake of his preaching.

If we had to feel that the success of our ministry depended upon our popularity with men we would die, because we are not popular. On the contrary, we are hated by the whole world with rare bitterness. Nobody praises us. Everybody finds fault with us. But we can glory in the Lord and attend to our work cheerfully. Who cares whether our efforts please or displease the devil? Who cares whether the world praises or hates us? We go ahead "by honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report." (II Cor. 6:8.)

The Gospel entails persecution. The Gospel is that kind of a doctrine. Furthermore, the disciples of the Gospel are not all dependable. Many embrace the Gospel today and tomorrow discard it. To preach the Gospel for praise is bad business especially when people stop praising you. Find your praise in the testimony of a good conscience.

This passage may also be applied to other work besides the ministry. When an official, a servant, a teacher minds his business and performs his duty faithfully without concerning himself about matters that are not in his line he may rejoice in himself. The best commendation of any work is to know that one has done the work that God has given him well and that God is pleased with his effort.



Homily 6 on Galatians
St. John Chrysostom


Ver. 3. "For if a man thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself."

Here again he reflects on their arrogance. He that thinks himself to be something is nothing, and exhibits at the outset a proof of his worthlessness by such a disposition.

Ver. 4. "But let each man prove his own work."

Here he shows that we ought to be scrutinizers of our lives, and this not lightly, but carefully to weigh our actions; as for example, if you have performed a good deed, consider whether it was not from vain glory, or through necessity, or malevolence, or with hypocrisy, or from some other human motive. For as gold appears to be bright before it is placed in the furnace, but when committed to the fire, is closely proved, and all that is spurious is separated from what is genuine, so too our works, if closely examined, will be distinctly made manifest, and we shall perceive that we have exposed ourselves to muchcensure.

Ver. 4. "And then shall he have his glorying in regard of himself alone and not of his neighbor."

This he says, not as laying down a rule, but in the way of concession; and his meaning is this, — Boasting is senseless, but if you will boast, boast not against your neighbor, as the Pharisee did. For he that is so instructed will speedily give up boasting altogether; and therefore he concedes a part that he may gradually extirpate the whole. He that is wont to boast with reference to himself only, and not against others,will soon reform this failing also. For he that does not consider himself better than others, for this is the meaning of "not in regard of his neighbor," but becomes elated by examining himself by himself, will afterwards cease to be so. And that you may be sure this is what he desires to establish, observe how he checks him by fear, saying above, "let every man prove his own work," and adding here,

Sts. Augustine and (I think) Jerome also commented on Galatians. You may find their thoughts enlightening.
 
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Pride is a part of life. If you give your best at something, then pride should be natural. Its okay to take pride in your work, just don't forget about God

When you become lost in pride and it guides your life, then it becomes a problem. When you think that you got where you are and have what you have because of yourself then you have a problem.
 
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I think the key to "good" pride is solo deo gloria. To God alone be the glory.

IOW, I might be absolutely fantastic at something, but I need to remember who gave me that ability.

Here's a shock... I agree with you 100% on this! (Somewhere the stars are about to fall out of the sky... lol)
 
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Pride in God ... actually, that sounds a little foolish.

When I am proud of my son, it is because he has exceeded my expectations of him. If God exceeds my expectations, that only means that I already thought far too little of the Almighty.

As for pride in others, that can be a good thing. Being proud of someone else helps them to know that they have done well in your sight.

As for pride in one's self - that is never a good thing. The closest thing that could still be considered 'good' is contentment in a job well done. Things done for pride are never positive, because they are done for yourself.
 
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When I am proud of my son, it is because he has exceeded my expectations of him.
Perhaps that's simply a POV thing, which can be different. My parents were proud of me when I met expectations, and thrilled when I exceeded, for example. (Actually, my parents were proud as long as I tried my best, which I for one know God always does, in a sense... and before I get slammed, I know God doesn't "try" like we think of, if at all, and I'm sure I've just worded it poorly, but we always get God's best, both in "intent" and in result.)
 
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