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Do you believe all races are equal?
Yes.

Is one better than the other?
No.

Are there inherent characteristics in each one?
Yes.

Is one more successful than the other?
Successful at what?

Do you idealize your own race above other races? Do you have prejudices?

Probably, just because I'm white...but it's not a statement against non-Whites. It's like when I bought my new Malibu, all of a sudden I was seeing malibus everywhere. I don't think I idealize my race over other races, but I'm white so I tend to look at everything from a white person's perspective. I have prejudices. I lived in Detroit for several years and I believe that has jaded my opinion of people...but that's not limited to non-Whites.
 
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Lets change this forum up a little bit.

Do you believe all races are equal?
For a certain definition of equal, yes.

Is one better than the other?
At what? Certainly some races have stereotypes surrounding them that are likely based on a kernel of truth.

Are there inherent characteristics in each one?
Yes. Otherwise we would not be able to tell them apart by looking at them.

Is one more successful than the other?
Not that I have noticed.

Do you idealize your own race above other races? Do you have prejudices?
Well of course, obviously us Scots are better then the rest of you plebes. That's just common sense. ;)
 
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Definition of equal:
like in quality, nature, or status

Are human beings (men and women and white and colored) really equal or do we idealize the word equality?

I think that we want everyone to be equal but it just isn't the case.

But is that based on race or the individual?
 
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Is one more successful than the other?
Not that I have noticed.

African Americans men are far more likely to be incarcerated than any other race. While there are other factors for this, the percentage is astounding..10% compared to 1.2% of whites. Prison Population Exceeds Two Million — Infoplease.com

Furthermore, African Americans make up a lot of the poverty in our nation:

"For instance, 30 percent of black Americans in Illinois live in poverty compared with only 8 percent of white Americans."
Much of Black America is Drowning in Poverty

It would seem that some races are more successful than others.

Can one race be inherently more aggressive and more likely to rebel?
 
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Do you believe all races are equal?

- Ok, what definition of a race are you using? as I see it, a race is the term given to a sertain set of common genes in the genepool for a subgroup of people. A sub-genepool perhaps..

Is one better than the other?

- In what way? Not getting burned? My skin practically oozes away if I go outside on a shiny day. But I can drink milk, which some other cannot..

Are there inherent characteristics in each one?

- Ehh.. Yes, that is what (although rather loosely) defines a race??

Is one more successful than the other?

- Of course in some countries some people with common characteristics are more sucessful; it is hard to fight yourself up the social ladder from slavery, persecution or what else.. I guess though you want to know if, given the same "starting conditions"? But as a race is just a staistical collection of people, there are good and bad ones in all groups I guess.

Do you idealize your own race above other races?

- The idealization of ones race is actually originating from a complex background.. say that because people of a certain race are having a hard time getting a job, solely because of their race, then saying they are uneducated can be seen to stem from the fact that their children are not supported in school as their arents are not as educated. It can build up to a socially constucted wall, which can be hard to climb.

Do you have prejudices?

- I sometimes do, but when I think about it more, I find that it comes from cultural structures that I am unfamiliar with, or do not fully agree with.
 
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Do you idealize your own race above other races?

- The idealization of ones race is actually originating from a complex background.. say that because people of a certain race are having a hard time getting a job, solely because of their race, then saying they are uneducated can be seen to stem from the fact that their children are not supported in school as their arents are not as educated. It can build up to a socially constucted wall, which can be hard to climb.

Perhaps I should have asked for a non-pseudo intellectual response! :doh:don't give me an answer you would give a sociology term paper! geesh.
 
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Lets change this forum up a little bit.

Do you believe all races are equal? Is one better than the other? Are there inherent characteristics in each one? Is one more successful than the other?

Do you idealize your own race above other races? Do you have prejudices?

I would hypothesize that the combined average of every race (if we figure a good way to determine what makes one constitute a race) would lead to being slight differences, but I would also think that in any given ability, while the average of one race may make them better than another race, any person from the worse race who is 1SD or greater in how good they are in this aspect would clearly be better than the average of any other race.

Also, some of these difference probably exist far more so due to socioeconomic differences which are tied to race (but not by a case/effect).

As for myself, I don't have any prejudices, but socioeconomic differences and some ethnic differences do lead to most of my friends being Caucasian. Intelligence, and even just hair style*, are more important to me that race.


*I just fine the 'honey comb' hair style of old to just be... icky.
 
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African Americans men are far more likely to be incarcerated than any other race. While there are other factors for this, the percentage is astounding..10% compared to 1.2% of whites. Prison Population Exceeds Two Million — Infoplease.com

Furthermore, African Americans make up a lot of the poverty in our nation:

"For instance, 30 percent of black Americans in Illinois live in poverty compared with only 8 percent of white Americans."
Much of Black America is Drowning in Poverty

It would seem that some races are more successful than others.

Can one race be inherently more aggressive and more likely to rebel?

You do realize that being inappropriate content poor increases your chances of being poor, and of getting put in jail. You would have to do a class divided study. What is the comparison of middle class African Americans verses middle class Caucasians. What about working/poor class? The number are likey to become far similar if you compare them like that.
 
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Perhaps I should have asked for a non-pseudo intellectual response! :doh:don't give me an answer you would give a sociology term paper! geesh.

sorry did you want stupid unthoughtful answers?
 
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You do realize that being inappropriate content poor increases your chances of being poor, and of getting put in jail. You would have to do a class divided study. What is the comparison of middle class African Americans verses middle class Caucasians. What about working/poor class? The number are likey to become far similar if you compare them like that.


I am trying to find those specific stats but my gut says that African Americans would still have higher incarcerations.

African Americans seem to be more violent:


Race, Crime and Justice in America
The Color
of
Crime
New Century Foundation
Oakton, VA 22124

Second, Expanded Edition
Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are
three times more likely.

crime statistics by race for those who cry racism... - Topix
 
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African Americans men are far more likely to be incarcerated than any other race. While there are other factors for this, the percentage is astounding..10% compared to 1.2% of whites. Prison Population Exceeds Two Million — Infoplease.com

Furthermore, African Americans make up a lot of the poverty in our nation:

"For instance, 30 percent of black Americans in Illinois live in poverty compared with only 8 percent of white Americans."
Much of Black America is Drowning in Poverty

It would seem that some races are more successful than others.

Can one race be inherently more aggressive and more likely to rebel?

In our nation? How about world wide?
 
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I understand. I just wanted a more simple answer :)

Tough. The answer isn’t simple.

In America (and in the UK), if you are black—or, indeed, Hispanic, or Asian, or a woman, or transgendered, or disabled, or not heterosexual, or any combination of these things—you accumulate, as a consequence both of the socioeconomic circumstances of your parents, and the prejudices of society at large, small disadvantages from birth which amount to large disadvantages by the time you come to seek employment. You also receive, as does everyone, a stream of information, implied or stated, about others’ expectations for your behaviour, temperament, and success.

This obviously has an effect on your temperament, and on your socioeconomic status. Temperament and socioeconomic status are a strong predictors of involvement with crime. Surprise, surprise: certain groups of people end up being more involved with crime than others.
 
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