Conservative Christians "Statement of Faith"
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Some of those we were basically told to put in by
staff
& I'm pretty sure both #3 & #8 were 2 of them - I guess 8
was for Catholics or something?
Nobody could really put wording together for it to fix it
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Staff has required that only the following "Faith Group" forums redefine their SOF's as apparently the existing situation is not good enough:
Semper Reformanda
Conservative Christians
Fundamentalist Christians
Which forums do I frequent here on CF? THOSE THREE. I'm starting to take this personally.
Actually WWMC has had a thread going too.
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Thank you for addressing the substance of the post, Arborvita.
Way more productive and fruitful forums have been shut down at CF over the years for far less. To give a free pass to one that has proven little more than an active source of outright harm to far too many good people here seems at best unfair and at worst, playing favorites without a cause. Glad to see you seem committed to trying to keep an open mind and a steady course away from both those ditches.
And again, many decent people have been run out of this forum for far less, too. While others continue to get a free pass to harass, abuse and flame at whim, continually proving themselves the source of conflict and strife but always able to deflect the blame elsewhere.
It might, however, ease the sting for those unjustly treated as unwanted elements to see some of those whose repeated and persistent actions actually merit such assessment finally receive the due recompense they have earned. When it comes down to that, please know some of us will stand in your corner on that day.
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nm....
just more of the they bad...we good...mentality that serves no other purpose than to cause yet more strife...
....and apparently there is nothing any of us can say that will make many of you consider otherwise.
just more of the they bad...we good...mentality that serves no other purpose than to cause yet more strife...
....and apparently there is nothing any of us can say that will make many of you consider otherwise.
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I think 8 was in response to Tonks... in an attempt to be more inclusive of Catholic and Orthodox conservatives. Though I agree the wording of it could be better... I couldn't think of how to do it though.
I agree that 3 is covered by the creed.. perhaps we should remove it. It is one of the basic listed tenets of conservative theology.. I think in response to some Christians disputing the virgin birth, but since that isn't accepted at CF, the point can be removed, I would think.
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And just look how much fun we have with it!
Interesting Rochir....I read a few pages....and found it not surprising many of the attitudes we're told are bad bad bad...seem to be evident in WWMC as well...
Maybe we could have had a bit more fun here...if we weren't repeatedly being told how awful we are.
I wonder if anyone is considering moving WWMC as they seem to be having difficulty using the word "faith" to describe who they are but would rather have a statement of "beliefs" or some such....but what they really want are rules...(I didn't read the entire thread...maybe that's been worked through...)
They seem to be getting "guidence" from staff...not affronts...though which I imagine is very helpful
...if they don't consider their group isn't really about FAITH...then perhaps that forum doesn't belong in Faith Groups.
Perhaps they're more of an outreach or something as they seem to be reaching out to everyone except conservatives...
...which is why they were considering changing the "Whomsoever"....because some conservatives....or anyone who doesn't agree with them also think they are a "whomsoever" and it is just too encompassing....and it looks like they don't want to be "bothered" either.
Some don't seem all that keen that the Nicene Creed is CF's SoF either so how does that fit into CF's vision?
I'm not trying to be an upstart....but this double standard really is not encouraging....
....and if I'm wrong (as I say...I didn't read the entire thread and I have no plans to make it a point of interest either...as I couldn't really care less and I have no vested interest in WWMC)...and they have been treated in the same fashion we have...I would certainly like to be directed so I can interject myself into their discussion and "stand in their corner" for a minute....
I mean....CF is all about US vs THEM....whomsoever the US might be and the THEM might be...
how does the saying go...the enemy of my enemy is my friend....
Now...doesn't that sound silly...
The point being....even though I don't agree with a lot of the concepts of WWMC....and I certainly don't agree with the theological...or should I say lack of theological approach regarding Scripture....
....I would defend with my last breath your right to live and congregate in peace.
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Perhaps we could, if we're still working on it that is, simply make a statement that we firmly adhere to the tenets of the Nicene Creed.
As for number 8...I don't know that much about Catholicism and what would be suitable to note inclusion....perhaps
Something along the lines of conservative beliefs are not limited to specific denominational nor non-denominational beliefs.
My wording isn't all that great...I guess I need a bit more coffee this AM before my brain kicks in...
...but the purpose, If I understand it...is to be inviting and inclusive to all members of faith.
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Staff has required that only the following "Faith Group" forums redefine their SOF's as apparently the existing situation is not good enough:
Semper Reformanda
Conservative Christians
Fundamentalist Christians
Which forums do I frequent here on CF? THOSE THREE. I'm starting to take this personally.
Yeah, me, too. Since I only frequent CC and SRR. I guess I'm not going to have any place to post again.
There didn't seem to be a problem in SRR till this started, now all of the sudden, I am a pariah.
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Let's see if we can finish the SOF without any further casualties.
These two seem good.
These two seem superfluous, given that nobody is allowed to post against the Nicene Creed anyhow. How about we change them to just one point stating that we uphold the Nicene Creed as an accurate statement on the nature of God?
This one is reasonable.
This one is in the Nicene Creed, but I suppose there are some who will say that a literal hell isn't part of it, so perhaps it should stay as is.
This looks fine.
This one just seems superfluous. I think we should ask Tonks about whether it is really necessary given that Tradition is handled in #1.
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That is right. Since things like annihilationism are being allowed to be discussed in the CO section since there is no specific mention of a literal eternal hell in the creed, this needs to stay.
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agreed
...just wanted to be clear my suggestion was not intended to suggest removing item #6...only to make #3 all encompassing and to emphasize a firm adherence to the Nicene Creed
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