The Deception of The Book of Enoch

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Actually, Dan means to judge, judge, and Dan is the land of the judges who descended on Mount Hermon =Mount Zion, pre-flood and post flood.
The Watchers were set as judges, rulers, and Enoch lists 200 of them who took an oath to rebel and take wives of daughters of Adam and get children through them.

Abraham chased the kings to Dan and into Lebanon, which lands were named pre-flood.
(Amraphel was Nimrod, as Jasher states, for in him they fell, as the Hebrew means of that name)
Whether I accept your explanation or not, the passage from Gen. 14:14, puts the lie to the original poster's assertion that Enoch mentioning the place name "Dan" proves Enoch's not valid.
 
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Actually, Dan means to judge, judge, and Dan is the land of the judges who descended on Mount Hermon =Mount Zion, pre-flood and post flood.
Did you get this meaning from the book of Enoch also? What I found was that Dan is a form of Daniel, also the son of Jacob and Bilhah, and the northern most city of ancient Palistine. No mention of it meaning "to judge"...from Dan to Beersheba, from one outermost extreme or limit to the other... Judges 20:1. It's a book, not the verb to judge ^_^
 
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Whether I accept your explanation or not, the passage from Gen. 14:14, puts the lie to the original poster's assertion that Enoch mentioning the place name "Dan" proves Enoch's not valid.
Dan is mentioned in Gen 14:14. It wasn't a lie, but my mistake...we do make them you know, unless you aren't human? That still doesn't make Enoch valid. I found valid discrepancies in Enoch that didn't match up with the bible. All it takes in my book is one difference to make it a false book, and there was more then one.
 
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ALL of which have been addressed on this very thread.
I don't think so!!! No one has addressed Enochs account of Lamech telling Noah about the coming deludge, and God telling Noah about the coming flood. These two accounts differ.
 
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Lamech was Noah's father. He was not an angel.

I think you are confused. There is a portion of Enoch which is a fragment written by Noah, and Noah's own words are in that fragment.
Noah was long instructed about the flood, from his birth, as his great grandfather had prophesied it, and Noah preached repentence to the sons of men with his grandfather Methusaleh for 120 years by God's command, before he was instructed to now build the ark, which he was five years in building before Methusaleh died and Noah wnd his family took in the clean and unclean animals and God closed the door.
From what I have been studying on Lamech and Lamech's wives, they were a "Godless" bunch and were into the pride of life and the women into vanity. That whole generation except Seth were Godless. Lamechs Sword - Song to his two wives breathes arrogance from reading it. They were so Godless that it introduced heathenisim. Lamech had a daughter named Naamah who played sweet sounds on her cymbals to call people to pay homage to idols. Seth was when men began to call upon the name of the Lord.
I find it unbelievable that God would use anyone from that generation to warn Noah of the coming flood seeing as how they were so heathenistic and into every manner of perversion and idol worship. Also, in Enoch 1, it doesn't say that Lamech warned Noah. It says Lamechs son..10:1 ~ Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech.. It had too be either Jabal, Jubal, or Tubal-cain. If it was Tubal-cain and the heathenistic generations of that time, it would certainly fit right into Freemasonry. As Tubal-cain is their password for Third Degree of Master Mason.
God would have sent an angel..one of HIS messengers, or warned Noah himself as the bible states that He did. Not some sin ridden perverted messenger from a heathenistic society!! God always used angels or prophets to warn, and God doesn't change...Heb 13:8 ~Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Jesus IS God. Gen 6:13 ~And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. It doesn't make sense that God would have to warn Noah again of a coming flood if he had already gotten the warning before. Everything surrounding this book of Enoch spells SATANIC!!
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/1o5.htm
 
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From what I have been studying on Lamech and Lamech's wives, they were a "Godless" bunch 10:1 ~ Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech..
From everything you say, in ignorance, you show that you have not even read the Bible to even know that Lamech the father of Noah was descended from Seth, and was not Lamech the grandson of Cain, of whom you are writing about.
Shame on you, this is worse than foot in mouth, it shows total ignorance and inability to read and know what you are even reading, and how it is connected to the matter at hand.

Act 7:9¶And the patriarchs, moved with envy, sold Joseph into Egypt: but God was with him,
Gen 37:28
Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, .........and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty [pieces] of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt.

Gen 37:36
And the Midianites sold him into Egypt unto Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh's, [and] captain of the guard.
In acts 7 Luke records that Stephen said that the brothers of Joseph sold Joseph into Egypt, but the Genesis account states that the brothers sold Joseph to Midianites, and that the Midianites sold Joseph into Egypt.

So I suppose that Acts is an evil book, in Nana's eyes, because Luke records that Stephen said that the brothers sold Joseph into Egypt, but Moses records that the brothers sold Joseph to Midianites -Ishmaelites, and that Midianites sold Joseph into Egypt.

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Whether I accept your explanation or not, the passage from Gen. 14:14, puts the lie to the original poster's assertion that Enoch mentioning the place name "Dan" proves Enoch's not valid.
You are correct of course that the fact that Abram went after the kings "to Dan", where there is a brook named Dan that flows into Jordon, coming out of Mount Hermon, also, and the poster is not correct, of course, but I wanted to point out that the book of Enoch states that the Watcher's descended at Mount Hermon, pre-flood -and they did so post flood, too, and they had a city on Mount Hermon, post flood, also.
Mount Hermon is called Mount Zion, and possibly Mount Eden, named for the land of Eden, pre-flood; Circumstantial evidence,points to that being the case.
The Watcher's were judges/rulers over earth; and so the land of the judges is at Mount Hermon.

Haran was the name of Terah's son who was "slain/killed because of his father Terah in Ur Kasdim", yet after his death Terah and his family migrated to a town named Haran, and dwelt there. But the town of Haran was not named for Terah's dead son, and had no connection to it.
Likewise, the tribe of Dan did not give the name to the land of Dan, but the word "judge" gave the name to the tribe.
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From everything you say, in ignorance, you show that you have not even read the Bible to even know that Lamech the father of Noah was descended from Seth, and was not Lamech the grandson of Cain, of whom you are writing about.
Shame on you, this is worse than foot in mouth, it shows total ignorance and inability to read and know what you are even reading, and how it is connected to the matter at hand.

Act 7:9¶And the patriarchs, moved with envy, sold Joseph into Egypt: but God was with him,
Gen 37:28
Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, .........and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty [pieces] of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt.

Gen 37:36
And the Midianites sold him into Egypt unto Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh's, [and] captain of the guard.
In acts 7 Luke records that Stephen said that the brothers of Joseph sold Joseph into Egypt, but the Genesis account states that the brothers sold Joseph to Midianites, and that the Midianites sold Joseph into Egypt.

So I suppose that Acts is an evil book, in Nana's eyes, because Luke records that Stephen said that the brothers sold Joseph into Egypt, but Moses records that the brothers sold Joseph to Midianites -Ishmaelites, and that Midianites sold Joseph into Egypt.
I'm not talking about Caine, are you? I am talking about Enoch on this thread, or are you dense as well as deceived...plus your whole leg is in your mouth now. So what about Seth? He was born after Lemech. That whole line of decendants were Godless. Evidently Enoch wasn't, as the bible doesn't say that he was and God took him. What the heck are you posting Joseph scriptures for?? Are you well?? The devil always gets flustered when his beliefs are being come against ^_^
Gen 4:17-26 ~And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: F30 and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. F31

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. 24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. 25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: F32 For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: F33 then began men to call upon the name of the LORD
 
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Dan is mentioned in Gen 14:14. It wasn't a lie, but my mistake...we do make them you know, unless you aren't human? That still doesn't make Enoch valid. I found valid discrepancies in Enoch that didn't match up with the bible. All it takes in my book is one difference to make it a false book, and there was more then one.
So Big Mouth Nana believe's the OT and NT are false books, by her own words she has condemned the Bible as false.


Act 7:9¶And the patriarchs, moved with envy, sold Joseph into Egypt: but God was with him,
Gen 37:28
Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, .........and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty [pieces] of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt.

Gen 37:36
And the Midianites sold him into Egypt unto Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh's, [and] captain of the guard.
In Acts 7 Luke records that Stephen said that the brothers of Joseph sold Joseph into Egypt, but the Genesis account states that the brothers sold Joseph to Midianites, and that the Midianites sold Joseph into Egypt.
Sorry to destroy your false god, Nana, but there you have it.

Big Mouth Nana, did Solomon have forty thousand stalls, or four thousand stalls?
1Ki 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
2Ch 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
So Big Mouth Nana, you call the OT evil, and of satan, because there is a contradictions, as you count contradictions,

One blind man named Bartimaeus is healed, by Mark's and Luke's accounts, but two blind men are healed by Matthew's account, and Matthew is the only one who was actually there, so was it two, or one, Nana, and were they coming in or going out of Jericho?
Mark says they were going out of Jericho, Matthew and Luke say they were going in to Jericho.

So, Big Mouth Nana, you call the NT evil, and of satan, because there are many contradictions, as you count contradictions

Mark 10:46-52)
Jesus Heals Blind Bartimaeus
46 Now they came to Jericho. As He went out of Jericho with His disciples and a great multitude, blind Bartimaeus, the son of Timaeus, sat by the road begging. 47 And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"
48 Then many warned him to be quiet; but he cried out all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!"
49 So Jesus stood still and commanded him to be called.
Then they called the blind man, saying to him, "Be of good cheer. Rise, He is calling you."
50 And throwing aside his garment, he rose and came to Jesus.
51 So Jesus answered and said to him, "What do you want Me to do for you?"
The blind man said to Him, "Rabboni, that I may receive my sight."
52 Then Jesus said to him, "Go your way; your faith has made you well." And immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus on the road.


Luke 18:43 Then it happened, as He was coming near Jericho, that a certain blind man sat by the road begging. 36 And hearing a multitude passing by, he asked what it meant. 37 So they told him that Jesus of Nazareth was passing by. 38 And he cried out, saying, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"
39 Then those who went before warned him that he should be quiet; but he cried out all the more, "Son of David, have mercy on me!"
40 So Jesus stood still and commanded him to be brought to Him. And when he had come near, He asked him, 41 saying, "What do you want Me to do for you?"
He said, "Lord, that I may receive my sight."
42 Then Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has made you well." 43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed Him, glorifying God. And all the people, when they saw it, gave praise to God.



Two Blind Men Receive Their Sight
Matt. 20:29-34
29 Now as they went out of Jericho, a great multitude followed Him. 30 And behold, two blind men sitting by the road, when they heard that Jesus was passing by, cried out, saying, "Have mercy on us, O Lord, Son of David!"
31 Then the multitude warned them that they should be quiet; but they cried out all the more, saying, "Have mercy on us, O Lord, Son of David!"
32 So Jesus stood still and called them, and said, "What do you want Me to do for you?"
33 They said to Him, "Lord, that our eyes may be opened." 34 So Jesus had compassion and touched their eyes. And immediately their eyes received sight, and they followed Him.
 
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So Big Mouth Nana believe's the OT and NT are false books, by her own words she has condemned the Bible as false.

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Not being familiar with the Word of God, and with the fact that one author can redact an account and give His witness as it impresses him, and that he can omit details added later, or by others (example:The LORD telling Noah, but using his own father, Lamech, to tell Noah, and using an angel to tell Lamech to tell Noah, but the LORD being the One who is doing the directing of all His ministers, whether men or angels), Big Mouth Nana has, by that ignorance and unfamiliarity, condemned the NT and the OT, as I pointed out above.

Her ignorance and condemnation of the Scriptures by her ignorance of facts has caused her to judge the Word of God as evil and of satan, for even in the account of the resurrection we have contradictions -as Big Mouth Nana counts contradictions:



Matthew 28
Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn[=to draw on], Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. 2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. 4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men.
5 But the angel answered and said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7 And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you."
8 So they went out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to bring His disciples word.
The Women Worship the Risen Lord
9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, "Rejoice!" So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me."



Mark 16
Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him. 2 Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. 3 And they said among themselves, "Who will roll away the stone from the door of the tomb for us?" 4 But when they looked up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away--for it was very large. 5 And entering the tomb, they saw a young man clothed in a long white robe sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed.
6 But he said to them, "Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid Him. 7 But go, tell His disciples--and Peter--that He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him, as He said to you."
8 So they went out quickly and fled from the tomb, for they trembled and were amazed. And they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid.
Mary Magdalene Sees the Risen Lord

Mark 16: 9 Now when He rose early on the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven demons. 10 She went and told those who had been with Him, as they mourned and wept. 11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they did not believe.

Luke 23: 55,56 -Luke 24:12
55 And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. 2 But they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. 3 Then they went in and did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4 And it happened, as they were greatly perplexed about this, that behold, two men stood by them in shining garments. 5 Then, as they were afraid and bowed their faces to the earth, they said to them, "Why do you seek the living among the dead? 6 He is not here, but is risen! Remember how He spoke to you when He was still in Galilee, 7 saying, 'The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.'"8 And they remembered His words. 9 Then they returned from the tomb and told all these things to the eleven and to all the rest. 10 It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them, who told these things to the apostles. 11 And their words seemed to them like idle tales, and they did not believe them. 12 But Peter arose and ran to the tomb; and stooping down, he saw the linen cloths lying by themselves; and he departed, marveling to himself at what had happened.

So, Big Mouth Nana has to retract her condemnation of the OT, NT, and the Book of Enoch, or else stand as a rejected heretic
Tts 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
 
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So Big Mouth Nana believe's the OT and NT are false books, by her own words she has condemned the Bible as false.
Her ignorance and condemnation of the Scriptures by her ignorance of facts has caused her to judge the Word of God as evil and of satan, for even in the account of the resurrection we have contradictions -as Big Mouth Nana counts contradictions:
You are the strangest person I have ever known in my Christian life, but in these last days, it was bound to happen. You must mean "WE" as in YOU. I have no contradictions with the resurrection at all....not in my bible...maybe in one of your books it contradicts the bible..that is VERY, VERY possible :pray:
So, Big Mouth Nana has to retract her condemnation of the OT, NT, and the Book of Enoch, or else stand as a rejected heretic
Tts 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! You are TOO funny!!!!!!!! Get some help. Your fanaticisim with "other books" has taken completely over!!!!!! Any one with some simblance of intelligence and the Spirit of God can see right through your ravings and the spirit behind it. I personally would rather be in the bible that liberates and sets the captives free!! I believe the OT and NT and NOT the book of Enoch, so I don't have to retract a thing. Next week someone will probably come up with the Book of Bubba, and you will buy right in to it you are so gullible.
Thanks for the laugh this morning, you made my day LOL!!!!!!!!
 
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Dan is mentioned in Gen 14:14. It wasn't a lie, but my mistake...we do make them you know, unless you aren't human? That still doesn't make Enoch valid. I found valid discrepancies in Enoch that didn't match up with the bible. All it takes in my book is one difference to make it a false book, and there was more then one.
"To put the lie to something" is to prove that thing to be false or untrue; its an idiom. You're over the top! "Unless you're not human!" Really. Number 1 I was not writing about you, I was responding to the claims of the "bible teacher", nor was I accusing the "Bible Teacher" of lying. Nana, the problem with this entire thread, is you do not read carefully and your ability to understand others is greatly hindered by something. Its such a waste of time to try to explain every word usage or turn of a phrase from posts from before. Pixels are too expensive to waste on further replies to you, as per your advice, your ignored.
 
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It's a defense mechanism. She has made so many mistakes that have been brought to light and is now trying to get out from under that light and save face by going on the attack.
I agree. She has no defense, and so, she slanders.
 
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"To put the lie to something" is to prove that thing to be false or untrue; its an idiom. You're over the top! "Unless you're not human!" Really. Number 1 I was not writing about you, I was responding to the claims of the "bible teacher", nor was I accusing the "Bible Teacher" of lying. Nana, the problem with this entire thread, is you do not read carefully and your ability to understand others is greatly hindered by something. Its such a waste of time to try to explain every word usage or turn of a phrase from posts from before.
I'm the OP of this topic, so who was I supposed to think that you were talking to? Any person would have thought the same thing from your previous post...and prior comments to me. At least I redacted the error. My understanding is fine thank you Summa. That is why I posted this topic. I'm not over the top. With God I am still reaching for the summit ;). Now there is someone who is over the top, but that's their problem.
Here it is in a nut shell. I have no problem with Enoch. He was a prophet of God. He was quoted in our bible ONCE ..one prophecy regarding the ten thousands of angels..a few other verse that some think that were by Enoc but not sure. He lived, left this world by God, He is with God.
Problem..only original fragments found of Enochs writings, only 3 copies were found in Ethiopia which constitutes very possible forgeries, his book is not in our bibles, it doesn't have the Spirit of God on the writings, it rambles, it contradicts certains passages of the bible, it was written in a time of heathenisim throughout that generation and previously.. even in Lamecks own family, it has one of Lamechs sons warning Noah of the flood, which God always had an angel, prophet OR He warned Himself..God never changes..the bible shows that God warned Noah..Noah warned twice supposedly by Lamecks son and God...I don't believe it!! Also, Noah and his family were the only ones spared during the flood. ONLY people that found favor in Gods eyes. That whole previous generation and Noahs were so heathenistic that I can't see anyone that God would have used. Lamech was also the first man recorded in the bible that had two wives, so he is the Father of Polygamy, which fits real well into that heathenistic, perverted generation. Others afterwards had two wives, but he started it. Men didn't call on the Lords name until Seth. The Book of Enoch also mentions quite a few "fallen"angel names PLUS two good angels Gabriel and Michael...how convieniant to throw those in there. Our bible only lists two good angels...Gabriel and Michael, even though God used "nameless" angels in our bible. I find that odd since God never changes and we do not have angels named other then the two. Enoch gives identity to it's fallen angels for NO reason that would benefit anyone. Gabriel and Michael have specific jobs according to our bible. Michael is the the great Prince who stand up for Israel..Dan 12:1, and Gabriel who stands in the presence of God Lk 1:19.
The book of Enoch today is not recognized in most Christain and Hebrew canons of scripture..for a good reason that I firmly believe that God had a part in. After reading it I can see why. According to history, Enoch appointed festivals that sacrificed to the Sun, and was the dicoverer of the Zodiac sign and the course of the planets. During his time he tried to get people to return to a Godly life and stop idolatry and there was peace and justice during his reign...didn't last. I believe that God took him because he was trying to live a Godly life, but was living in a "sinful" time and getting caught up into "worldly" beliefs like Astrology and Sun worship. Like the old saying goes..when in doubt..Don't!!, and my Don't screams stay away from it. My "Don't" has a name, and most people do not recognize that still small voice.. or they ignore it.
You can go ahead and be deceived by this book all that you want to..I have a choice..it isn't going to happen!!
 
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It's a defense mechanism. She has made so many mistakes that have been brought to light and is now trying to get out from under that light and save face by going on the attack.
Yeah, he's called the Holy Spirit. You might want to meet Him sometime so you will have a defense!! No mistakes here but one, and I fessed up to it :p
 
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Yeah, he's called the Holy Spirit. You might want to meet Him sometime so you will have a defense!! No mistakes here but one, and I fessed up to it :p

The Holy Spirit doesn't attack, Nana. The Holy Spirit doesn't accuse either.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23gentleness and self‑control. Against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.



Your original post accuses and attacks without solid Biblical basis which is what everyone has pointed out to you.

From your original post:


You people that are caught up into the "doctrine of devils" of Enoch need to read this carefully and prayerfully each verse comparing Enoch and the bible!!


For the Believer in Jesus Christ, who is versed in the Scriptures, the
Book of Enoch should not even raise any questions, as to its evilness!
Now that I've read it, it really surprises (amazes) me that it is even
questioned amongst so-called Christians!!


You accused out of ignorance of the Word of God. The Holy Spirit guides us and reminds us of everything that Jesus said to us.

Where do you think Jesus got the idea for the gathering place of the spirits of the rich man and Lazarus, Nana? It's a place where there is a section for those in comfort and a section for those in torment...hmmm...Enoch 1, chapter 22. Jesus was teaching a parable about a scriptural truth described in Enoch which was found with other scripture among the Dead Sea Scrolls and is quoted, word for word, by Jude. Jesus taught about things found in Enoch. Do you suppose He read it and believed it, too?

Oh, and another one, in the vision to John in Revelation 6, the souls are under the altar pleading with God for justice...just like Abel in Enoch, chapter 22.
 
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The Holy Spirit doesn't attack, Nana. The Holy Spirit doesn't accuse either.
Better bone up on the Word instead of Enoch...
2 Tim 4:2 ~Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. I've just about reached the end of "long suffering". The devil isn't an uplifting topic. Love to expose him though :D

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23gentleness and self‑control. Against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
I think yeshuasavedme me should read these. She had the tantrum this morning...made me laugh though :pray:

Your original post accuses and attacks without solid Biblical basis which is what everyone has pointed out to you.
WOW, everyone being 3 people who are the Book of Enoch followers.

From your original post:
You accused out of ignorance of the Word of God. The Holy Spirit guides us and reminds us of everything that Jesus said to us.
That is true, so why aren't you listening? Here is the rest of that verse from above... 2nd Tim 4:3 ~For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Yesterday when I said that you were a follower, I wasn't being unkind, it was a revelation. You attach yourself to anything that is bizarre in nature topic wise, and people who teach bizarre topics. You have been exhorted by Acts6:5 before on here over the "conspiracy theroies"...should have listened to him because he must have seen the same thing that I do.

Where do you think Jesus got the idea for the gathering place of the spirits of the rich man and Lazarus, Nana? It's a place where there is a section for those in comfort and a section for those in torment...hmmm...Enoch 1, chapter 22. Jesus was teaching a parable about a scriptural truth described in Enoch which was found with other scripture among the Dead Sea Scrolls and is quoted, word for word, by Jude. Jesus taught about things found in Enoch. Do you suppose He read it and believed it, too?
Jude is fine. He is in my bible, and God wanted the book there..not Enoch!!!

Oh, and another one, in the vision to John in Revelation 6, the souls are under the altar pleading with God for justice...just like Abel in Enoch, chapter 22.
I don't care about anything that is in Enoch. Like I said before, Satan knows the Word.
 
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Better bone up on the Word instead of Enoch...
2 Tim 4:2 ~Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. I've just about reached the end of "long suffering". The devil isn't an uplifting topic. Love to expose him though :D

reprove, rebuke and exhort is NOT the same thing as attack and accuse.

I think yeshuasavedme me should read these. She had the tantrum this morning...made me laugh though :pray:

Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.




That is true, so why aren't you listening? Here is the rest of that verse from above... 2nd Tim 4:3 ~For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Yesterday when I said that you were a follower, I wasn't being unkind, it was a revelation. You attach yourself to anything that is bizarre in nature topic wise, and people who teach bizarre topics. You have been exhorted by Acts6:5 before on here over the "conspiracy theroies"...should have listened to him because he must have seen the same thing that I do.

I don't care what you think about me, personally, Nana. I don't care about any accusation that you level against me. You are not going to bait me, satan.

Jude is fine. He is in my bible, and God wanted the book there..not Enoch!!!

I don't care about anything that is in Enoch. Like I said before, Satan knows the Word.

I told you what Jesus taught, Nana. It seems that you don't even read what has been written but jump to erroneous conclusions.

It has come down to this and I will follow Jesus' advice on the matter:

Mat 7:6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
 
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