FYI - SR member banned

An e-ban, huh? Have they no shame?

"And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done." —Rom. 1:28 (ESV)

In hope he re-appears !!!!!!!!!

bless you steve , Christ was also rejected !!!!!!!

I didn't even know there was such a thing as an eban! Let me know if there's anything I can do .....

CC&E

ksen said:

Check here for details.

http://www.christianforums.com/t5782370-was-drstevej-e-banned.html

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Maybe I'm in the wrong but I am praying that God will judge this place very soon...

yep....

Well... the thread is closed and the dissenters hushed again.

Well, I commend Dr. Steve for all of his attempts to restore godly leadership to this huge place that was one of christian respite! He mostly stood alone but didnt seem to mind being a lone voice if there was any chance of recovering old boundaries, long since disallowed here! May our Lord continue to bless all those who are willing to 'stand forth and be counted' for the cause of Christ and the gospel of His saving grace!

welcome to the new cf .......... no motives shall be judged , "who are we to judge" , but if ya don't like it , ya get e-banned , why ? because MOTIVES ARE BEING JUDGED , THAT'S CLEAR!

Regardin this issue, I have posted in that particular thread that nothing is going to fix this except through the Holy Spirit and the people who practices "fruit of the spirit" listed in Galatians 5. I am finding some serious flaws in Reformed followers today which is making me think much harder who I fellowship with. Often I find DrSteveJ's posts disappointing.

I had a conversation with someone about this issue and I will repeat what I have said.

Regarding CF that everyone has access to, Reformed followers are forgetting the great commission. CF is not a 'church' but a tool to share the gospel as well as fellowship with those who share "the same beliefs". We must openly discuss with all who will listen, treating all Christians as fellow Christians, but we must call apostasy, apostasy. It appears that we are not ready for reformation of CF in the power of the Holy Spirit.

I am much into Reformed theology. This is what I am getting at......As a calvinist, I do believe we have "free will" but only according to God's will. God will direct our lives as He sees fit. Bible clearly pointed out that God have directed our lives. In Ephesians 1:11, "He works all things according to the purpose of His own will." 'Providence" means God’s faithful, moment-by-moment control over everything He has made to ensure that everything He has created are going according to His will. He is active in every detail of it. He’s active at every moment. He doesn’t stand back and let things happen because He decides to intervene if something or someone is not going according to His will. He governs the world moment-by-moment through providence, so that everything that happens, every detail of our life occurs by God's divine providence or by God’s express permission. He is in control of everything.

Didn't the Calvinists forget this? I will still fellowship and debate with my Christian brethren even though I may not agree with their beliefs. In this world, I have learned that by doing of the will of God leaves me no time for disputing about His providence plans and why things are happening around us. I also have learned that democracy does not give me any real power at all because in God's providence, He allowed democracy to basically swamps each of us Christians among non-believers. Through Divine Providence, we have democracy in order to share spiritual revival that only the Holy Spirit can provide. Democracy provides possibilities and opportunities without any restrictions to share the Gospel. Andrew Murray said "Faith expects from God what is beyond all expectation."

i never found drsteve's posts dissapointing , i merely wish i could have been as eloquent , and on fire for the truth , his sense of humour in the midst of difficulty should have been an indication of his heart , instead , he got booted out because he wouldn't remain silent ..... i hope he comes back annon .

drstevej said:

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Erwin said:

Reasons:

1. To me CF is more than just a website, it is also a ministry, and this vision is something that only Christians understand and appreciate.

2. All our rules and policies, though it may appear generic, have foundations in Christian doctrine and the Bible.

3. This site is Christian forums and although non-Christians are welcome, the target audience is still Christians.

4. A large majority of Christian members will not submit to being moderated by non-Christians.

All of the above points can be challenged and counter-arguments brought forth, but this policy will not change while I remain webmaster.

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Erwin:

This is one of several firm assurances, if not promises, you have swept aside. Can you understand why MANY conservatives believe you have not just betrayed us, you have betrayed core beliefs you held for years!

Erwin, conservative Protestants are leaving in droves. Conservative Catholics are also leaving. Many not leaving (Protestant and Catholic) are building Safehouse bunkers. This is a strange goals to pursue.

A few months ago I drove through the Ninth Ward in New Orleans. It is a disaster still. The waters are gone but the devastation and danger persist. Those remaining are locked in their "safe houses" for fear of those who lurk at night.

Erwin, YOU broke the levees at CF and allowed the flood of relativism and WIKI-based rules flood this place.

This reform is a Cat 5 disaster of poll-driven WIKIness. In the Old Testament the prophets spoke to current situations calling the nation back to obedience. Many were stoned. That was an effective short-sighted solution. But it was eternally wrong.



In Him,
Steve

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Jim, the primary issue I have right now is that CF continues to maintain that it is a Christian ministry even though it can no longer rightly be called such (if ever it even was). So long as this site maintains this claim and yet its nature and rules contradict it, we can either work to reform it back to being something akin to a Christian ministry or we can openly speak against it in defense of the truth.

Those of us who are continuing to work to try and rescue this ministry from apostasy have been labelled as workers for "the enemy" by CF staff, and now we have been accused of "trying to destroy CF." The fact is, as ksen pointed out, many of us are trying to SAVE CF, not destroy it. Yet we are viewed as the enemy.

If this site wants to slide into apostasy, that seems to be beyond anyone's control now. But so long as it maintains that it is a Christian ministry I will continue to speak for either a return to orthodoxy or an abandonment of that claim.

Maybe the Holy Spirit will wake Erwin up.

frumanchu said:

Jim, the primary issue I have right now is that CF continues to maintain that it is a Christian ministry even though it can no longer rightly be called such (if ever it even was). So long as this site maintains this claim and yet its nature and rules contradict it, we can either work to reform it back to being something akin to a Christian ministry or we can openly speak against it in defense of the truth.

Those of us who are continuing to work to try and rescue this ministry from apostasy have been labelled as workers for "the enemy" by CF staff, and now we have been accused of "trying to destroy CF." The fact is, as ksen pointed out, many of us are trying to SAVE CF, not destroy it. Yet we are viewed as the enemy.

If this site wants to slide into apostasy, that seems to be beyond anyone's control now. But so long as it maintains that it is a Christian ministry I will continue to speak for either a return to orthodoxy or an abandonment of that claim.

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We may not agree with the "CF's owner" decisions but we are slaves in this world. We are God's slaves: 1 Corinthians 9:19 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.

All beliefs about God are problematic in CF as well as in this dark world. Christian Forum is an "Online Ministry" that is different, special and unique. To me, CF is another form of "missionary work". I love Charles Spurgeon's quote: "If God has fit you to be a missionary, I would not have you shrivel down to be a king." Reformed theology professes a strong commitment to evangelism and missionary work. I am an apostle by definition of a servant, sent on and missionary. We are to focus attention on missionary tasks regardless of our "situation". I have learned to trust every situation to God's sovereign control. "God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work." (2 Corinthians 9:8).

Christians banned from ChristianForums.

Non-Christians invited into ChristianForums.

"Ignore them Protest-ants!"





... well, that was a bust. "What're we gonna unite today, Brain?"

I have a further ... probing ... question. DrSteveJ didn't violate our rules. Yet he was banned from our congregational area. Do we actually have a more lenient criterion for membership than the "tolerantecumenicalforums"? Is it really true that we restrictive, cranky, Ichabod Cranes of the Reformation have become more tolerant than Erwin's new vision of uber-ecumenical acceptance?

And isn't DrSteveJ saying he's a Christian? Wasn't that the sole criterion for membership in these uniting fora?

What price tolerance?

I for one have involved myself in a number of forums, and I don't care to jostle with the membership. Invite all to the fora, I'm interested in spreading the Gospel among non-Christians, whether or not they claim the name of Christ. Plus ... very few of the other fora will have me, as I've mentioned before I don't "cow-tow" to their theological view enough to be admitted to puritanforums or a number of other conservative fora.

And I'm not interested in lying.

It intrigues me the level of "belief.net"ism that's now pervading this forum, though.