Harry Potter

Piepiepieandpie · Mar 4, 2007

What is your take on it? Promoting witchcraft, promoting lawlessness, turning children away from God and tward Satan...

Or a good book that promotes standing up for your rights, fighting discrimination, listening to your elders and learning that everyone is filled with the potential to do good, make good chioces, and make a difference?

I like Harry Potter. What about you?

GreenMunchkin · Mar 4, 2007

I dislike it intensely.

More for the fact it's contrived, manipulative nonsense.

Not unlike The Traveller and The Da Vinci Code. Two of those three do have an "anti-Christianity" premise, but atheistic novels aren't above been poorly written.

Bad writing is more offensive than any content some author can come up with.

The Nihilist · Mar 4, 2007

I'm with GreenMunchkin. The most offensive thing abot the Harry Potter books is the writing.

sinneD · Mar 4, 2007

Nothing wrong with it.. no worse than "The Lord Of The Rings" or "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe", which was written by CS Lewis, a great Christian author..

it's fiction.. fiction that tells a story of right vs wrong, good vs evil..

TimmyPage · Mar 4, 2007

GreenMunchkin said:
but atheistic novels aren't above been poorly written.

Neither is any form of religious/Christian writing.

I like Harry Potter, It isn't exactly genius-class literature, but they are amusing to read, have an interesting plot line, and an overall good message.

It will not do any sort of emotional harm to any one reading them, but instead instill them with that sense of magic and wonder that humanity seems to be lacking these days.

Piepiepieandpie · Mar 4, 2007

More for the fact it's contrived, manipulative nonsense.

Just curious, how? Please explain. I'm genuinely curious.

christalee4 · Mar 4, 2007

Piepiepieandpie said:
What is your take on it? Promoting witchcraft, promoting lawlessness, turning children away from God and tward Satan...

Or a good book that promotes standing up for your rights, fighting discrimination, listening to your elders and learning that everyone is filled with the potential to do good, make good chioces, and make a difference?

I like Harry Potter. What about you?

Love the Harry Potter books, as well as the movies. Well thought out, good fiction, fun, provoking, and interesting.

The books have helped children to read more, and in this era of TV, that can be good.

sinneD · Mar 4, 2007

GreenMunchkin said:
Bad writing is more offensive than any content some author can come up with.

HaHa.. whether it is bad or not is debatable, but a zillion people bought the Harry Potter books, so I would say your opinion is in the minority..

insineratehymn · Mar 4, 2007

You Christians are retarded. It's just a fictional book intended for entertainment....much like your bible and the stories in it.

parsa · Mar 4, 2007

Haven't read the books so can't talk about the writing. I like it because I think the movies are good intertainment. And anyway I like movies with magic in them.

Hi sinneD,

>>Nothing wrong with it.. no worse than "The Lord Of The Rings" or "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe", which was written by CS Lewis, a great Christian author..

I've had this discussion with someone that is against the book from a religious point of view. He argues that non of these movies 'promotes' witchcraft by humans like Harry Poter does. In 'The Lord of the Rings' non of the magical creatures are humans and in 'The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe' the witch is evil.

GreenMunchkin · Mar 4, 2007

TimmyPage said:
Neither is any form of religious/Christian writing.

Absolutely

Have read a plethora of Christian books that were horribly written. I threw them across the room with the same amount of gusto

Piepiepieandpie said:
Just curious, how? Please explain. I'm genuinely curious.

Her story about struggling for 4 years as she wrote it; her syntax is appalling; her character development is shoddy in the extreme; much of the plot has been ripped from other lesser known books. She found a way to tap into the angst of all kids and played upon it to an unparalleled degree. Contrived, soulless rubbish. Truly.

sinneD said:
HaHa.. whether it is bad or not is debatable, but a zillion people bought the Harry Potter books, so I would say your opinion is in the minority..

And happy to be!

Gimme some rich, classic literature any day.

insineratehymn said:
You Christians are retarded. It's just a fictional book intended for entertainment....much like your bible and the stories in it.

The irony...! Did you actually read any of the responses? Kindly quote the post from a retarded Christian saying it's anything more than shallow entertainment.

I understand that you're hugely angry at Christianity, but stomping all over a calm discussion spitting bile and silliness does little to further your cause.

crazyfingers · Mar 4, 2007

The Harry Potter stories are great fun. I've read all of the book, mainly on the airplane.

The movies are fun too, though I didn't like the last one so much. Too little plot. Not enough character.

WalkingforHim · Mar 4, 2007

It's just a book. Anyone that takes issue with the witchcraft part needs to get a life.

Piepiepieandpie · Mar 4, 2007

WalkingforHim said:
It's just a book. Anyone that takes issue with the witchcraft part needs to get a life.

I totally agree.

Lord_Marx · Mar 4, 2007

It's a fairly entertaining childrens book. It's not evil, it is defiantly overrated (although on the other hand, many of it's critics give the series far too little credit).

Exhausted · Mar 5, 2007

I really wish people wouldn't start these threads without their crazy witch-burners already present.

We're just agreeing with each other.

tocis · Mar 5, 2007

Piepiepieandpie said:
I like Harry Potter. What about you?

I've never read/watched it, but from what I hear, it's okay. Well, I don't like that type of story personally, but I see nothing ethically troubling about it.

Adriac · Mar 5, 2007

GreenMunchkin said:
Absolutely Have read a plethora of Christian books that were horribly written. I threw them across the room with the same amount of gusto

Her story about struggling for 4 years as she wrote it; her syntax is appalling; her character development is shoddy in the extreme; much of the plot has been ripped from other lesser known books. She found a way to tap into the angst of all kids and played upon it to an unparalleled degree. Contrived, soulless rubbish. Truly.

And happy to be! Gimme some rich, classic literature any day.

The irony...! Did you actually read any of the responses? Kindly quote the post from a retarded Christian saying it's anything more than shallow entertainment.

I understand that you're hugely angry at Christianity, but stomping all over a calm discussion spitting bile and silliness does little to further your cause.

Hear hear.

ImaginaryVoyager · Mar 5, 2007

I like Harry Potter. I've read all the books and seen all the movies. So has my daughter. My wife's read some of the books and seen all the movies. My son has just seen all the movies.

If this stuff promotes witchcraft, it certainly is doing a poor job. Not one of us has become a witch, nor have we shown any interest in doing so.

I'd love to learn how to play quidditch, though

Jane_the_Bane · Mar 5, 2007

GreenMunchkin said:
More for the fact it's contrived, manipulative nonsense. Not unlike The Traveller and The Da Vinci Code. Two of those three do have an "anti-Christianity" premise, but atheistic novels aren't above been poorly written.

The Da Vinci Code is indeed poorly written. Harry Potter isn't. Trust me - as an English lit. student, I can tell the difference. As for "manipulative nonsense", I've got a slight suspicion that your impression is based upon anti-Potter pamphlets rather than the novels themselves. Compared to the blatant and boring allegories of the Narnia-series, Harry Potter is a true gem.

Bad writing is more offensive than any content some author can come up with.

Indeed. That's why so-called "Christian literature" is usually so utterly sub-standard: the authors and publishing houses know that the label "Christian" alone suffices for their target audience.
The "Left Behind"-series, for example, is among the crappiest books ever published successfully, apart from a few penny dreadfuls.

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