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Muslimah
In the Qu'ran, does it not say that Allah is a deciever? I'd like you to tell me where that is. . .

Originally posted by Susan
Ok, what I edited out of here was rude but it was TRUE.

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oh what did you say?
why do u edit ur words to the extent of deletion if u believe them?

Originally posted by Susan
Muslimah
In the Qu'ran, does it not say that Allah is a deciever? I'd like you to tell me where that is. . .

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Do you mean deceiver?

From Dictionary.com , Meaning of deceiver is :

de·ceive __Pronunciation Key__(d-sv)
v. de·ceived, de·ceiv·ing, de·ceives
v. tr.
1. To cause to believe what is not true; mislead.
2. Archaic. To catch by guile; ensnare.

v. intr.
1. To practice deceit.
2. To give a false impression: appearances can deceive.

[Middle English deceiven, from Old French deceveir, from Vulgar Latin *dcipre, from Latin dcipere, to ensnare, deceive _: d-, de- + capere, to seize; see kap- in Indo-European Roots.]
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de·ceiva·ble adj.
de·ceiver n.
de·ceiving·ly adv.

Synonyms: deceive, betray, mislead, beguile, delude, dupe, hoodwink, bamboozle, double-cross
These verbs mean to lead another into error, danger, or a disadvantageous position by underhand means. Deceive involves the deliberate misrepresentation of the truth: “We are inclined to believe those whom we do not know, because they have never deceived us” (Samuel Johnson). Betray implies treachery: “When you betray somebody else, you also betray yourself” (Isaac Bashevis Singer). Mislead means to lead in the wrong direction or into error of thought or action: “My manhood, long misled by wandering fires,/Followed false lights” (John Dryden). Beguile suggests deceiving by means of charm or allure: They beguiled unwary investors with tales of overnight fortunes. To delude is to mislead the mind or judgment. The government deluded the public about the dangers of low-level radiation. Dupe implies playing upon another's susceptibilities or naiveté: The shoppers were duped by false advertising. Hoodwink refers to deluding by trickery: It is difficult to hoodwink a smart lawyer. Bamboozle means to delude by the use of such tactics as hoaxing or artful persuasion: “Perhaps if I wanted to be understood or to understand I would bamboozle myself into belief, but I am a reporter” (Graham Greene). Double-cross implies the betrayal of a confidence or the willful breaking of a pledge: The thief double-crossed his accomplice.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


deceiver
\De*ceiv"er\, n. One who deceives; one who leads into error; a cheat; an impostor.
The deceived and the deceiver are his. --Job xii. 16.
Syn: Deceiver, Impostor.
Usage: A deceiver operates by stealth and in private upon individuals; an impostor practices his arts on the community at large. The one succeeds by artful falsehoods, the other by bold assumption. The faithless friend and the fickle lover are deceivers; the false prophet and the pretended prince are impostors.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
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deceiver
n : someone who leads you to believe something that is not true [syn: cheat, cheater, trickster]

Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University


Why would Allah say that about himself?

Muhammad said it in the Qu'ran, and that is one of the 99 names of allah.
I heard that somewhere, and I just thought you could clear it up for me.

BTW thanks for correcting my misspelling-that's one of the few words I always misspell.

Originally posted by Susan
Muhammad said it in the Qu'ran, and that is one of the 99 names of allah.
I heard that somewhere, and I just thought you could clear it up for me.

BTW thanks for correcting my misspelling-that's one of the few words I always misspell.

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Muhammed said in the Quran?
Muhammed doesn't say anything in the Quran.
The Holy Quran is the word of Allah %100

From the Quran..

"To Allah belong the best and most beautiful names so invoke Him by them. Abandon those who desecrate His names, they will be repaid for what they did."

[ al-A'raf (7): 180]

It says "best and most beautiful names" So how could that be a name like the deceiver?

I looked around a bit & the claim that one of Allah's name is 'The deceiver' is made only on sites who are trying to make Islam look evil , Christian sites mostly

Not one Muslim site had 'the deceiver' listed in the 99 Names of Allah..

One list of Allah's 99 names is here: http://www.jannah.org/articles/names.html

it wouldn't be deceite in the sense you are thinking..

How many senses of deceit are there?

Originally posted by Susan
it wouldn't be deceite in the sense you are thinking..

How many senses of deceit are there?

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I deleted that thought
It doesn't belong to me anymore , so i cant answer..

I re read the definition for deciever & am %100 sure that isn't a name of Allah..

Do you have some kind of proof?
Try & change my mind , go on

Originally posted by Susan
Ok, what I edited out of here was rude but it was TRUE.

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you still havnt told me what you said..
don't be scared , if you think it was so true , say it again..
& i will defend myself , my Allah & my religion

You are baiting me. If I say it, I will most likely be banned.

I fell for that debating tactic somewhere else. I am NOT falling for it here.

Originally posted by Susan
You are baiting me. If I say it, I will most likely be banned.

I fell for that debating tactic somewhere else. I am NOT falling for it here.

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lol
It was that bad huh?
Well , know that Allah saw it & the punishment he gives is far worse than a ban on some discussion forum

I doubt anyway that a Christian would get banned on a Christian forum

Perhaps this is off-topic, but I don't see why the Qu'ran would just tell women to cover up...I mean, men are sexy, too! And it certainly causes lust for them to be in public without their whole body covered...

Perhaps it's a misunderstanding of how women work. Men seen to think that only they are tempted by physical beauty, or that women can control themselves better than men can...which, I can tell them, is certainly not true in my case.

Alright! I thought Muslimah was gone, glad to c u holding steady.

"Allah was known to the pre-Islamic Arabs: he was one of the Meccan dieties" (Encyclopedia of Islam, I :406).

Allah was worshipped as a moon God before Islam.

Muhammed was a sinner.

Oh, I forgot to ask you Muslimah...did you sin by taking me as a friend?

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is one of them. Allah guideth not a people unjust." Surah 5:51



Another question Muslimah: can you prove to me that Allah is God?

I doubt anyway that a Christian would get banned on a Christian forum

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Hey Muslimah! How ya doin'?

It has been my experience that everyone here who breaks the rules is treated fairly and objectively.