May those who have an ear hear what the Spirit says.
Did the Apostles order that it is a necessity to keep the law of Moses after we believe? The answer is NO.
And as a side-note for all of the TO Messianics reading this, Torah is not abolished either, nor done away with, it is Holy and pure. So lets throw that old argument out from the start, bevakesha. This is about 'covenant' not about Torah.
By stating you are saved to keep the law of Moses you state the very same statement as the Pharisees in Acts 15. Salvation 'leads to' keeping the law of Moshe. As believers you are saying that it is necessary for Gentiles to keep the law of Moses, only not FOR salvation, but AS salvation.
Quote:5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.
The Torah teachers had a very hard time giving up the Seat that was entrusted to them, that they defiled. Even though they ‘believed’ in the witness, they still stumbled, rose up and said it was necessary to order Gentiles to keep the law of Moses. And many in todays Messianic movemant are claiming this too.
Quote:6 The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. 7 And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them,
Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, 9 and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith.
Peter is identifying the authority Elohim gave him through the Spirit to proclaim salvation to the Gentiles. And he proves it by his testimony of the account in Cornelius’s house where Yah told him to go and speak the message of reconciliation he was given, and when he did he witnessed Elohim giving them, pouring upon them the same Spirit given to him.
THIS was the necessary order from Elohim, to speak the message given him by Yeshua, not what the Pharisees ‘said’.
He states that Elohim has made NO distinction between Gentiles and Jews. Because by the Word spoken through the Spirit both have their hearts cleansed by faith. Not by necessary commands (orders) to keep the law of Moshe.
Quote:10 Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11 But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.
He relates keeping the law of Moshe to putting Elohim to the test and by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples. And remarks that even our fathers could not bear it. And continues to contrast the difference between what those Pharisees ‘believed’ and what he believed.
Salvation is not attained nor does it order (command) or lead you to ‘keep the law of Moshe’. Just like Gentiles who ‘believe’ and are saved and the Spirit is poured out within them, so too with the Jew. We ‘believe’ and are saved and the Spirit is poured out within us. This message, this good news has nothing whatsoever to do with keeping the law of Moshe. It fulfills it. Completes it. It does not make it necessary to keep it as it was kept by the Jew.
Quote:James replied, Brothers, listen to me. 14 Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name.
James concurs with Peter and expounds that it is not a necessity to keep the law of Moshe but to believe in what was written within it. That the Tent of David, the Kingdom of Elohim is being erected in front of your very eyes.
Quote:15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, 17 that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.
He will return, restore and will rebuild ‘the tent of David’ that has fallen. Not the law of Moshe. So that ‘the remnant’ of MANKIND may seek Elohim, and all Gentiles who are called as well. He restored the covenant made with David, not Moshe. And Ya’akov and Kefa both agree in this.
Quote:19 Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, 20 but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.
So as head servant to the kehilah, and lead by the Spirit dwelling in him he judges that the Apostles should NOT trouble those of the Gentles by ordering them to keep the law of Moses. But should ‘turn from their sins to Elohim’. Only here he mentions 3 specific sins that were most prevalent with the Gentiles.
He was not giving an all inclusive list. These are not the only three things that are required. BUT, he did exhort them to “Turn from their sins to Elohim”.
Quote:21 For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.
And now the bomb. Every TO Messianic I have seen points to this verse and implies that the first three where starts and that they would be entering into Torah of Moshe life as they started to attend and learn in the shuls.
But in fact this verse is the very opposite. He was reiterating that making it ‘necessary to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses’ was putting Elohim to the test and putting a yoke upon believers that was never intended to be there, because in fact,
From ancient generation Moses HAS had in EVERY city those who proclaim him, he is read EVERY Shabbat in the synagogues.
Moses was being preached from ancient times, but the message we have of reconciliation with Elohim is now being revealed to the world. Avraham saw this day and believed, David saw this day and danced naked, and believed, Moshe even saw this day and spoke of Yeshua who would come and Speak Torah to His children, eternal life.
Quote:Colossians 1 the church, 25of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, 26the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. 27To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ. 29For this I toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within me.
So what is the need to order them to Keep what even our fathers could not? No it is not by the Law that we are saved, nor are we saved to be ordered to keep the Law.
Moses WAS necessary, he HAS been proclaimed in EVERY city during Shabbat readings. But Yeshua did not come to restore and rebuilt the law of Moshe, he came to erect the fallen tent of David. That is living IN the very presence of Elohim. Heaven, the Kingdom of Elohim, because his Spirit dwells within us, ruling and reigning in our very being.
Quote:24 Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions,
No instruction (necessary order) was given by the Apostles. Those Pharisees said: ‘it is necessary to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses’. Ya’akov states, ‘we gave them no instruction’.
Quote:25 it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth.
So, since those stumbling Pharisees were teaching this ‘lie’ they sent emissaries of their own so the Gentiles would hear from the mouths of those who were following the Spirit within them, instead of those who were making shipwreck of their faith.
Quote:28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
And now it is not only from the Apostles who were filled with his Spirit but from the Spirit itself that there is no necessary order, no yoke to be placed upon the neck of the righteous to burden them than to ‘TURN FROM SIN TO ELOHIM’. Because the Kingdom of Yah is here, it is at hand, it is among you and dwelling within His children.
Did the Apostles order that it is a necessity to keep the law of Moses after we believe? The answer is NO.
And as a side-note for all of the TO Messianics reading this, Torah is not abolished either, nor done away with, it is Holy and pure. So lets throw that old argument out from the start, bevakesha. This is about 'covenant' not about Torah.
By stating you are saved to keep the law of Moses you state the very same statement as the Pharisees in Acts 15. Salvation 'leads to' keeping the law of Moshe. As believers you are saying that it is necessary for Gentiles to keep the law of Moses, only not FOR salvation, but AS salvation.
Quote:5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.
The Torah teachers had a very hard time giving up the Seat that was entrusted to them, that they defiled. Even though they ‘believed’ in the witness, they still stumbled, rose up and said it was necessary to order Gentiles to keep the law of Moses. And many in todays Messianic movemant are claiming this too.
Quote:6 The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. 7 And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them,
Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, 9 and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith.
Peter is identifying the authority Elohim gave him through the Spirit to proclaim salvation to the Gentiles. And he proves it by his testimony of the account in Cornelius’s house where Yah told him to go and speak the message of reconciliation he was given, and when he did he witnessed Elohim giving them, pouring upon them the same Spirit given to him.
THIS was the necessary order from Elohim, to speak the message given him by Yeshua, not what the Pharisees ‘said’.
He states that Elohim has made NO distinction between Gentiles and Jews. Because by the Word spoken through the Spirit both have their hearts cleansed by faith. Not by necessary commands (orders) to keep the law of Moshe.
Quote:10 Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11 But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.
He relates keeping the law of Moshe to putting Elohim to the test and by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples. And remarks that even our fathers could not bear it. And continues to contrast the difference between what those Pharisees ‘believed’ and what he believed.
Salvation is not attained nor does it order (command) or lead you to ‘keep the law of Moshe’. Just like Gentiles who ‘believe’ and are saved and the Spirit is poured out within them, so too with the Jew. We ‘believe’ and are saved and the Spirit is poured out within us. This message, this good news has nothing whatsoever to do with keeping the law of Moshe. It fulfills it. Completes it. It does not make it necessary to keep it as it was kept by the Jew.
Quote:James replied, Brothers, listen to me. 14 Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name.
James concurs with Peter and expounds that it is not a necessity to keep the law of Moshe but to believe in what was written within it. That the Tent of David, the Kingdom of Elohim is being erected in front of your very eyes.
Quote:15 And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, 17 that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things 18 known from of old.
He will return, restore and will rebuild ‘the tent of David’ that has fallen. Not the law of Moshe. So that ‘the remnant’ of MANKIND may seek Elohim, and all Gentiles who are called as well. He restored the covenant made with David, not Moshe. And Ya’akov and Kefa both agree in this.
Quote:19 Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, 20 but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.
So as head servant to the kehilah, and lead by the Spirit dwelling in him he judges that the Apostles should NOT trouble those of the Gentles by ordering them to keep the law of Moses. But should ‘turn from their sins to Elohim’. Only here he mentions 3 specific sins that were most prevalent with the Gentiles.
He was not giving an all inclusive list. These are not the only three things that are required. BUT, he did exhort them to “Turn from their sins to Elohim”.
Quote:21 For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.
And now the bomb. Every TO Messianic I have seen points to this verse and implies that the first three where starts and that they would be entering into Torah of Moshe life as they started to attend and learn in the shuls.
But in fact this verse is the very opposite. He was reiterating that making it ‘necessary to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses’ was putting Elohim to the test and putting a yoke upon believers that was never intended to be there, because in fact,
From ancient generation Moses HAS had in EVERY city those who proclaim him, he is read EVERY Shabbat in the synagogues.
Moses was being preached from ancient times, but the message we have of reconciliation with Elohim is now being revealed to the world. Avraham saw this day and believed, David saw this day and danced naked, and believed, Moshe even saw this day and spoke of Yeshua who would come and Speak Torah to His children, eternal life.
Quote:Colossians 1 the church, 25of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, 26the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. 27To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28Him we proclaim, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone mature in Christ. 29For this I toil, struggling with all his energy that he powerfully works within me.
So what is the need to order them to Keep what even our fathers could not? No it is not by the Law that we are saved, nor are we saved to be ordered to keep the Law.
Moses WAS necessary, he HAS been proclaimed in EVERY city during Shabbat readings. But Yeshua did not come to restore and rebuilt the law of Moshe, he came to erect the fallen tent of David. That is living IN the very presence of Elohim. Heaven, the Kingdom of Elohim, because his Spirit dwells within us, ruling and reigning in our very being.
Quote:24 Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions,
No instruction (necessary order) was given by the Apostles. Those Pharisees said: ‘it is necessary to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses’. Ya’akov states, ‘we gave them no instruction’.
Quote:25 it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth.
So, since those stumbling Pharisees were teaching this ‘lie’ they sent emissaries of their own so the Gentiles would hear from the mouths of those who were following the Spirit within them, instead of those who were making shipwreck of their faith.
Quote:28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
And now it is not only from the Apostles who were filled with his Spirit but from the Spirit itself that there is no necessary order, no yoke to be placed upon the neck of the righteous to burden them than to ‘TURN FROM SIN TO ELOHIM’. Because the Kingdom of Yah is here, it is at hand, it is among you and dwelling within His children.
