Originally posted by parousia70
He is not contradicting or correcting any notion of a "last Day" resurrection.
He was correcting her misunderstanding of what He meant at the time when He said Lazarus will rise again -- that day.
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Originally posted by parousia70
He is not contradicting or correcting any notion of a "last Day" resurrection.
Originally posted by npetreley
He was correcting her misunderstanding of what He meant at the time when He said Lazarus will rise again -- that day.
Originally posted by GTX
I still see inconsistencies. I am completely unconvinced.
Why in the world would a model Christian who is also awaiting the end times not be enlightened to the fact that this is Christs Kingdom? Why are you the only ones enlightened?
I truly believe you guys believe this, but aren't you just a tad disappointed? I mean doesn't it sound much nicer and more glorious knowing Christ is going to come and reign on earth?
Please your own words, no scripture.
Originally posted by davo
"Please your own words, no scripture" -I believe this says it all when it comes to your end-time understanding, or lack thereof. You said it perfectly, thankyou.
davo
Originally posted by GTX
How can you say that? I asked for an explaination in a preterists own words! I am on your side, I too believe Christ hasn't returned yet.
Originally posted by GTX
How can you say that? I asked for an explaination in a preterists own words! I am on your side, I too believe Christ hasn't returned yet.
Originally posted by GTX
Oh, I didn't realize that, thanks for the explaination. I haven't seen Christ yet though, and our world is a mess.
Originally posted by GTX
You must have doubts about that sometimes though.
Originally posted by franklin
Thankyou for the uplifting and encouraging words there brother Manifest! You have said it very well in this post!
I pray that our futurist brothers that pay us a visit in our assigned forum will all be on the same page of biblical teaching one day soon! Did I say soon?
Originally posted by unworthyone
Don't feel bad. Paul probably didn't use only scripture to write scripture.
Originally posted by GTX
I still see inconsistencies. I am completely unconvinced.
Why in the world would a model Christian who is also awaiting the end times not be enlightened to the fact that this is Christs Kingdom? Why are you the only ones enlightened?
I truly believe you guys believe this, but aren't you just a tad disappointed? I mean doesn't it sound much nicer and more glorious knowing Christ is going to come and reign on earth?
Please your own words, no scripture.
Originally posted by GTX
I still see inconsistencies. I am completely unconvinced.
Why in the world would a model Christian who is also awaiting the end times not be enlightened to the fact that this is Christs Kingdom? Why are you the only ones enlightened?
I truly believe you guys believe this, but aren't you just a tad disappointed? I mean doesn't it sound much nicer and more glorious knowing Christ is going to come and reign on earth?
Please your own words, no scripture.
Originally posted by Manifestation1*AD70
Hi GTX. May I sak you another question? Where in the Bible does it say that Christ is going to come and reign on earth?
6 "I have installed my King on Zion, my holy hill." I will proclaim the decree of the Lord : He said to me, "You are my Son ; today I have become your Father.
Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father's name written on their foreheads.
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness
Originally posted by npetreley
Revelation 14:1 implies it, since the reference is to Mount Zion and the 144,000 with Him are those protected during the time of wrath (in other words, they are living people on earth).
Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father's name written on their foreheads.
Isaiah 9:
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness
Can you interpret these spiritually? Sure. But they could also be literal.