If a tsunami tilted the earth what could a global flood do?

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A4C said:
No amount of pontificating is going to dispell the reason for the "silence" (by the non ceationist scientific community) on the "quick" rock layer formation at Mt St Helens.

Blatant dishonesty.
 
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DaveS said:
Hi, I personally have no idea what you are going on about at the moment but I would like to put in my 2 cents on 'did the great flood happen?'.

Firstly, what makes us think that the great flood was worlwide? It was designed to wipe out all corrupt human life. As at that time there is evidence that ancient civilisations lived close together a global flood would not be absolutely necessary. However, as a theistic evolutionist I don't believe the 4,000 year stuff really although there maybe a point in seeing that there is nothing surviving from before a certain timescale. Who knows if it could hav happened 4,000 years ago although I personally think it was probably less recent nearer to the time where civilisaton was more or less centraly based.

Thanks for your input Dave. What makes us think that the world-wide flood was worldwide is the fact that this is exactly what the Bible declares. All the tops of all the high mountains were covered, 15 cubits upward were they covered. Our knowledge about the Flood is derived from the Bible. For those who don't believe in the Bible the issue is moot, there was no flood at all to their minds, except many evolutionary scientists agree that there have been seven or eight major extinction events in the history of the earth, in fact one catastrophe is said to have killed off 95% of all life on earth, I think it was said to have occured about 250 million years ago.
The trend of opinion among scientists is that the earth has been devastated by numerous major impacts during her four billion years of existence. There seems to be no question that impacts have occurred in the past with cataclysmic results. The extinction of dinosaurs is commonly blamed on a collision about 65 million years ago and the 110-mile crater of the culprit impact has been discovered in Mexico. In fact, many extinction events may be attributed to major impacts. An article in Scientific American charts the top five mass extinctions, and specifies that in three cases, astronomical impact precipitated the destruction, including an extinction event 250 million years ago, in which 95 percent of marine species were eradicated, along with 70 percent of land species (Simpson 1-2). Rosario Nici and Douglas Kaupa, both of the United States Air Force, list five impact sites, one of which is said to have formed the Chesapeake Bay, east of Washington, D.C. The authors then declare, “Today there are 140 known impact sites on the earth with many hundreds awaiting verification” (1).
Nici, Rosario, and Douglas Kaupa. “Planetary Defense.” Airpower Journal Summer 1997, 11.2, p94, 11p, 1c.
Simpson, Sarah. “Deeper Impact.” Scientific American May 2001 284.5, p18, 2p, 1c.
Even Scientists who reject creationism accept the idea of WORLD WIDE catastrophes, however they do not accept the facts as presented by the Bible. That Bible, in Genesis --as well as in the plain declarations of Jesus, Peter, and Jude-- agrees affirms that the whole world was destroyed by a flood about 4500 years ago.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
Blatant dishonesty.
We still observe the evolutionary commentors here resorting to calling those of us who believe in the Bible "liars," or charging us with blatant dishonesty. People who believe in evolution are believing a lie, and worshipping and serving the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever (Romans 1).
 
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Floodnut said:
Rocks form rapidly under intense pressure and heat: Man-made diamonds and man-made coal.

So where did this intense pressure and heat come from to turn top layers of sediment into rock?

Are you suggesting that the rock formation happened after the erosion or before the erosion of these 'flood' features we keep hearing about?
 
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notto said:
So where did this intense pressure and heat come from to turn top layers of sediment into rock?
The Flood

notto said:
Are you suggesting that the rock formation happened after the erosion or before the erosion of these 'flood' features we keep hearing about?
YES
 
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Floodnut said:
We still observe the evolutionary commentors here resorting to calling those of us who believe in the Bible "liars," or charging us with blatant dishonesty. People who believe in evolution are believing a lie, and worshipping and serving the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever (Romans 1).

Actually, it would seem that only A4C was accused of blatent disonesty, and with good cause. You will notice that there has been anything but silence from those of us that accept well supported science. We have pointed out that no new rocks were formed at Mount Saint Helens. This is a fact. Anybody who says otherwise is simply talking based on a lie told to them by creationists or assuming something that isn't true based on their misunderstanding of geology.

Where is the silence that A4C refers to? Certainly not in this thread.
 
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notto said:
How did the flood provide intense heat and pressure?

Pressure: Tons of Water. Heat: Pressure and Tectonic Activity

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Did the sediment turn to rock before or after it was eroded into the 'flood' formations we keep hearing about?

I already said YES.
 
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Nathan Poe said:
Yes before, yes after, yes both... are you even trying?

It is hilarious that simple things like this are so confusing to you. It is no wonder that you are confused by the fact that the Earth is 6000 years old, just as God declared through Moses, and as was affirmed by the Son of God.
 
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Floodnut said:
And this is the answer: YES:yawn:

Where did the heat and pressure come from if the sediments were turned to rock after the erosion of the 'flood features' we keep hearing about?

Your Yes would tell us that things like the grand canyon and such turned to rock after the erosion took place. How was heat and pressure applied to these sediments after the flood took place and the erosion had already occured.

How can we tell?
 
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GodsSamus said:
Why do we have 270 surviving Flood legends, all saying the angry god (or gods) destroyed the Earth by a flood? If this is a myth, one might suppose the legends would use a tornado, a firestorm, a big hail storm, etc. NOT ONE LEGEND TELLS OF A GOD DESTROYING THE EARTH WITH A TORNADO.
Tornados only cover a very small portion of area, floods OTOH ...

http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/jblack/jbnahua2.html
includes a myth of destruction by fire
http://members.aol.com/jimb3d/myth/cycles.html
(a site of questionable worth) cites myths with worldwide destruction by fire and earthquakes
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/r/ragnarok.html
Ragnarok includes winter, earthquakes, poison, floods and fire.
 
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Floodnut said:
It is hilarious that simple things like this are so confusing to you.

"answers" that don't fit the questions being asked? Or is this that speaking in tongues I've heard so much about?

It is no wonder that you are confused by the fact that the Earth is 6000 years old, just as God declared through Moses, and as was affirmed by the Son of God.

Because it's not a fact: it's thousands of years worth of mythology, superstition, and assorted hogwash.
 
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notto said:
Where did the heat and pressure come from if the sediments were turned to rock after the erosion of the 'flood features' we keep hearing about?

Your Yes would tell us that things like the grand canyon and such turned to rock after the erosion took place. How was heat and pressure applied to these sediments after the flood took place and the erosion had already occured.

How can we tell?

YES.:yawn:
 
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