IDD will be reopened - the posts will be back - but with more moderators and rules

Patience is a good thing. Better to do God's will tomorrow than to flail around a bit today.

Don't you just hate it when you plan and write and do heaps of stuff for that one piece of thing and in the end it just doesn't work....

It's like code, take 60hrs and finally you realise it doesn't work....whoops forgot to pass the object....

Or when you bake a cake for the first time....why didn't it rise?...whoops forgot the baking powder...

Erwin, it's great that you've considered to put it back with it new and improved.... I'd much rather keep baking the cake than have no cake at all....LOL....

Personally, I don't think we've given the IDD closure enough time to see if it will work. A couple of days is not enough. I would be willing to bet that given a couple of weeks, things would be just hunky-dory without IDD.

Of course, I could be wrong, but at least I'm willing to put my money ( or a pizza rather ) where my mouth is.

nyj said:

Personally, I don't think we've given the IDD closure enough time to see if it will work. A couple of days is not enough. I would be willing to bet that given a couple of weeks, things would be just hunky-dory without IDD.

Of course, I could be wrong, but at least I'm willing to put my money ( or a pizza rather ) where my mouth is.

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Yeh I think I'd agree, that way I can finish off my novel rather spend time dwelling in IDD...

Erwin said:

I have always believed that Christians from different denominations can come together in fellowship and love, despite their differences, because of the fact that we are one body in Christ Jesus. We can agree to disagree, and be able to respectfully discuss our doctrinal differences.

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One would think this too, but it is more of popularity contest and who is the most right. shoulding serving God in different ways be a debatable topic?

personally I am for the decision to reopen with new rules that will be more stringent.
If rules can be set up that are not Formal Debate rules but at the same time curb how far one can go in the pursuit then I do not see that we should not try it. As of right now the problem stands that these types of debates have spilled over into Forum that are OPEN forums which means that unbelievers are seeing much more of things that they should not be seeing instead of the isolated incident. GA is a very good example of this type of behaviour. It is like a field day in there.
I do understand the reasoning behind closing done IDD in the first place but if we really want to think of God first then we also need to think of what this is doing to the unbeliever to see this going on. And since we cannot control everybody there needs to be a place set aside for the issues to be presented in a more private manner. Most people will not go where they cannot post. So although we may get a few lurkers in the CO areas it is not anywhere near as bad as putting it out there full throttle for them to see.
And although some believe that it is inappropriate to do this behaviour in such a manner some just do not care who sees it quite frankly. I mean if we were perfect examples of Christ then there would be no need for this to take place at all because IDD wouldn't have been shut down in the first place.
Then we can talk about how it has even infiltrated the forums set aside for calm fellowship.
IMHO of course
In Christ
Debi

Hey, wasn't one of the original arguments the hope that more people would go from IDD into GA? I guess that part worked.

seebs said:

Hey, wasn't one of the original arguments the hope that more people would go from IDD into GA? I guess that part worked.

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Well I guess it did and then backfired because then they sortof forgot the purpose of GA to begin with and made it an in fighting free for all.

Lol...

I think that no matter what is done to moderate the IDD forum, there will always be fights because the theology and doctrine of the catholic-based denominations is so different from the non-catholic-based denoms that the two can NEVER be reconciled. It's like expecting people who only eat liver to sit down to a nice meal with vegans. The two cannot be reconciled, and as the vegans and the liver-eaters get hungrier and hungrier for something that nourishes either of them, they will fight, no matter what they have in common and no matter how committed they are to keeping the peace.

Likewise, IDD nourishes neither group, it only acts as a torture device to remind them both how hungry they are for the spiritual nourishment of a good discussion and fellowship with like-minded Believers, and no matter what there is in common between the two groups, since neither is being satisfied spiritually, the hunger and anger will flare up again and again.

As CF tries harder and harder to accomodate everyone, it nourishes no one, like a restaurant that tries to serve all eaters without offending any other groups sensibilities. You can't have a vegan/Atkins/South Beach/kosher/Chinese/low fat restaurant. CF is trying to have a Protestant/Catholic/Orthodox/pagan/seeker/atheist/non-demoninational/agnostic website, and THAT'S what is causing all the problems, not the posters. We're all just trying to be true to our faiths, which are mutally incompatible, like the vegan and the carnivore.

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As CF tries harder and harder to accomodate everyone, it nourishes no one, like a restaurant that tries to serve all eaters without offending any other groups sensibilities. You can't have a vegan/Atkins/South Beach/kosher/Chinese/low fat restaurant. CF is trying to have a Protestant/Catholic/Orthodox/pagan/seeker/atheist/non-demoninational/agnostic website, and THAT'S what is causing all the problems, not the posters. We're all just trying to be true to our faiths, which are mutally incompatible, like the vegan and the carnivore.

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Lambslove, I haven't heard from you for while, I think I've been going to the wrong forums, but you've always had the correct wisdom.

So Erwin, are you recruiting mods?

As CF tries harder and harder to accomodate everyone, it nourishes no one, like a restaurant that tries to serve all eaters without offending any other groups sensibilities. You can't have a vegan/Atkins/South Beach/kosher/Chinese/low fat restaurant. CF is trying to have a Protestant/Catholic/Orthodox/pagan/seeker/atheist/non-demoninational/agnostic website, and THAT'S what is causing all the problems, not the posters. We're all just trying to be true to our faiths, which are mutally incompatible, like the vegan and the carnivore.

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I disagree with you.

I think if posters have a problem with interfaith issues, they should avoid those discussions. Likewise, if certain posters feel they come up spiritually dry by having interaction nonChristians and atheists, avoid those discussions as well.

But to say that no one is being nourished spiritually is presumptuous at best. In the Catholic forum, we have numerous prayer and praise threads, and there are numerous prayer and praise threads in other fora on this board as well.

It's what the individual makes of it, imo.

Michelle

Rising Tree said:

So Erwin, are you recruiting mods?

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Yes he is.

Before IDD is re-opened, we will have a set of very specific forum rules for IDD as well as the 20 (or more) moderators established.

The moderators will come from our current staff as well as new moderators.

If you are interested in helping out with IDD, feel free to apply. If you've already applied and you would be interested in helping out in IDD, drop a line to oncewaslost, our HR Admin, and let her know so she can include it in your application.

Miss Shelby said:

I disagree with you.

I think if posters have a problem with interfaith issues, they should avoid those discussions. Likewise, if certain posters feel they come up spiritually dry by having interaction nonChristians and atheists, avoid those discussions as well.

But to say that no one is being nourished spiritually is presumptuous at best. In the Catholic forum, we have numerous prayer and praise threads, and there are numerous prayer and praise threads in other fora on this board as well.

It's what the individual makes of it, imo.

Michelle

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Excellent post, Michelle.

I think closing IDD was a bad idea. I don't know if more moderators will help but the board is too big to have the few moderators in there that it had.

onesheep said:

Excellent post, Michelle.

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Thanks.

I think closing IDD was a bad idea. I don't know if more moderators will help but the board is too big to have the few moderators in there that it had.

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I'm pretty indifferent on the matter. I sure don't miss it. Maybe that is due to having run my course in there, though.

Michelle

debiwebi said:

Well I guess it did and then backfired because then they sortof forgot the purpose of GA to begin with and made it an in fighting free for all.

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perhaps this is the trouble.....

whether GA or IDD, chronic fighters, baiters and trolls should be excluded - the extra mods should be able to handle that quite well.....
are your best friends, when you obey the rules

lambslove said:

We're all just trying to be true to our faiths, which are mutally incompatible, like the vegan and the carnivore.

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I think you're wrong. It's nothing like that. At least, it shouldn't be...

We're not that different. You're making it sound like Catholics and Protestants have nothing in common - they do. Christianity.

If you can't handle talking to people who don't believe exactly as you do, then ...

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We're all just trying to be true to our faiths, which are mutally incompatible, like the vegan and the carnivore.

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I think a more apt comparison might be Cantonese and Sezchuan - same food, just slightly different spices!!

Or Japanese and Chinese - many similarities, some very interesting differences - often served on the same table in America!!