Originally posted by Apologist
That's not much of a comparison Wolseley.
Having fellow believers pray for you is not the same as praying to the dead if that's what you are implying.
Besides that the dead do not know what's going on here on earth as I believe the Spirit is saying through Solomon in Ecclesiastes 9:5.
God Bless
Ecclesiastes 9: 1-7
1 All this I have kept in mind and recognized: the just, the wise, and their deeds are in the hand of God. Love from hatred man cannot tell; both appear equally vain,
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in that there is the same lot for all, for the just and the wicked, for the good and the bad, for the clean and the unclean, for him who offers sacrifice and him who does not. As it is for the good man, so it is for the sinner; as it is for him who swears rashly, so it is for him who fears an oath.
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Among all the things that happen under the sun, this is the worst, that things turn out the same for all. Hence the minds of men are filled with evil, and madness is in their hearts during life; and afterward they go to the dead.
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Indeed, for any among the living there is hope; a live dog is better off than a dead lion.
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For the living know that they are to die, but the dead no longer know anything. There is no further recompense for them, because all memory of them is lost.
6 For them, love and hatred and rivalry have long since perished. They will never again have part in anything that is done under the sun.
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Go, eat your bread with joy and drink your wine with a merry heart, because it is now that God favors your works.
Originally posted by KC Catholic
You have one life and one chance to do the Lords will before your dead. Those who are alive now have the opportunity to turn from evil and live a life in Gods graces.
Originally posted by 2002 Christian
2 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
Which is simply nothing more than your opinion, your personal interpretation of Scripture.Asking the dead to intercede for you is like asking the dust of the ground to intercede for you. The dead are dead. Unless God raised them in a resurrection or they were taken to heaven without dying, all are dead in their graves waiting for Jesus
Originally posted by 2002 Christian
Asking the dead to intercede for you is like asking the dust of the ground to intercede for you. The dead are dead.
Originally posted by VOW
How sad.
If you have never been with a dying person, I can see how you might feel that way. After sitting with someone who is in the process of dying, though, you can FEEL the change in the person. Often he or she will look beyond you, and reach out to "something" that isn't there. It's obvious that there is a transition going on, the dying person is leaving this world.
And in leaving, he or she is not going to "dust in the ground," but somePLACE, where existence continues.
THAT is the Christian faith!
Peace be with you,
~VOW
The spirit that returns is the same unconscious spirit that was sent from God when He created the person.Originally posted by Hoonbaba
I personally think that place has something to do with Ecc 12:7:
and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
=)
-Jason
Christ promised that those who believed in Him would not die. Those in Christ are alive. We believers have eternal life. We will never die.Originally posted by MissytheButterfly
Points taken, but do Catholics believe these people are still alive ? That's where I am confused...I understand praying to Jesus..but I thought some of the others died...?