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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    inthesky: It is the number one reason for my eventual departure from Christianity. I find OT morality lacking on so many levels. Basically, I found myself being more ethical then God - and realized that logically this whole book was written by men of the day and clearly not an all-powerful...
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    Using pascals wager and christianity to kill babies

    Jawsmetroid: You bring up some interesting points. I actually respect those that stand by a Biblical take on their faith and don't add stuff to "make them feel better". In saying that, I personally believe that any diety who has - what I consider - worse ethics then myself is not worthy of my...
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    Using pascals wager and christianity to kill babies

    Seriously, anyone who worships a being that may be sending babies to suffer FOREVER needs to readjust their ethics meter. If you are arguing that point then please stop, take a deep breath, and realize what is is you are saying. Do you really want to stand next to an omnipotent being who is...
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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    We seem to have gotten rather off track though. My point is that people are not following the OT anymore, except perhaps as a historical document. As much fun as discussing incest is, perhaps it's another thread waiting to happen.
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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    sacredsin: That sums up my thoughts of it as well. The OT God was really into letting you know when he was angry. Earlier in that same book, he vaporized an entire city of sinners. You would think that he would have said **something** about the incest. It was kinda his modus operandi.
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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    Incest? Well, the story of Lot's daughters comes to mind. They did shag their dad after getting him drunk, and God never seemed to remark on it. Then again, I don't think Bible really condmens incest (could be wrong here) so it's not really contradictory.
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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    sacredsin: That is how I think most Christians view the OT. As culture changes (and we learn that menstrating women aren't REALLY unclean) the rules slip away and nobody talks about them. The pork eating is a fine example - I don't think Jesus ever said "yeah, pork is cool now".
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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    EBIA: Not sure I follow. So when one reads Leviticus, do you follow the rules or not as non-Israeli ? For a simple example, do you follow Leviticus 11:9-12 about not eating shrimp or not? If you say that you must obey all the rules, you must follow this one. Otherwise, I can understand if you...
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    Which parts can you ignore in the OT?

    Do most of you view the OT as a kind of "history lesson" or do you still have to follow the rules within? I don't know too many people that will not touch menstrating women, and many Christians eat shrimp, so it seems that at least some rules have been dropped over the years. Is there a process...
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    Human Sacrifice

    Why didn't God stop him? Jephthah's daughter went into the mountains for 2 months before he killed her. Moreover, why would Jephthah even think for one moment that God wanted a potential human sacrifice?
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    Human Sacrifice

    When you read Bible verses like Judges 11 verses 30 - 40 , [the gist is that Jephthah needs to win a battle, asks God for help, and God answers because Jephthah promises to MURDER whatsoever comes out from his doors, and God made that whatsoever be his only child] do you not think that maybe...
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    Which of the following are aspects of God:

    This question was not as thought provoking to all of you as I thought. When I read it, and really thought about it, it made me realize the big differences in Christian sects. If you really think about it though, if God truly loved everyone He would never put them in Hell. Even if the person...
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    Which of the following are aspects of God:

    I heard this phrased a while back and wanted to present it here to find out which aspects of God you believe in. 1. God is all-powerful, and can control everything. 2. God is all-loving, and wants everyone to be saved. 3. Some people go to hell to suffer forever. The gist is that any 2 of...
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    Science told: hands off gay sheep

    I wonder how this affects the kinsey scale? Does it jam people to a 0? I have always thought the kinsey scale helps to explain pseudo-bisexual raver girls. 0:Exclusively heterosexual 1 predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual 2 predominantly heterosexual, but more than...
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    The near-death experience and Christianity

    I dunno - the NDE seems flaky sometimes. It seems odd that only some people have them (and the time spent dead does not seem to matter for this). There is some pretty convincing evidence though, like blind people having them and being able to describe things. Nontheless, the NDE message seems...
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