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Recent content by Nightfire

  1. Nightfire

    Is Hell just?

    It doesn't seem to me that individuals (i.e. "the latter") are referred to here, because the transition from hellfire to faithful salt includes the whole spectrum... Maybe the thought here is that everyone will pass through judgment (of which fire is a frequent image, cf. "God is a consuming...
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    Is Hell just?

    Should you distinguish between what you've been taught as a child and what you're being taught as an adult? What if the order teaching was reversed - would you be able to make the same complaint? If someone wants to brainwash you, it can occur at any age! Besides phenomological differences...
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    Is Hell just?

    The worms are from Isaiah 66 and a rather strange reference in Mark 9:Is. 66:23-24 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD. "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me...
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    Is Hell just?

    I also just want to throw a rock in the bush. The argument about whether eternal hell is "just" is very emotional, but how is the alternative any better? Is being dead for eternity any more "just"? Because we who are alive can deal with it better? To make an analogy closer to everyday...
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    Who is a true Christian?

    Maybe not ordination as we have come to know it today, but people were definitely "ordained" into various posts in the church. 1 Tim. 3:1-5 Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband...
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    I was referring to windmill's earlier post. Do you agree with it? As far as I know, Paul also didn't distinguish between "God's law" and "Moses' law", since they contained, for all practical and seremonial purposes, the same thing. Paul's distinction was between "the law" - which includes the...
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    You mean, like those who distinguish between the "law of Moses" and the "law of God"? It leaves one to wonder who the Jews thought Moses' laws came from.
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    Who is a true Christian?

    Oh, I agree completely. Let's examine a few instances where religion (from Latin "reverence (for God)" or "conscientiousness") is mentioned... 1 Timothy 5:4 But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own...
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    How many of those verses impose the death penalty for those who work on the Sabbath (and by "work" I mean the same as the verses in the law that defines it), and how many verses revoke the death penalty? How many verses command and portray circumcision, and where does Jesus revoke it?
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    Windmill, also re: Col. 2:16 See the third paragraph of my earlier post in this thead. This is from a scholar that seems to be well respected among SDA's.
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    You avoided my question. If the teaching to stop circumcising is not in the Bible - in any chapter and verse - where did Paul get it from, and why was he believed? Circumcision isn't a Levitical law, by the way - it's part of the original covenant with Abraham. And likewise, Jesus declaring...
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    Who is a true Christian?

    Luke 10:26-27 What is written in the Law? he replied. How do you read it?He answered: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbour as yourself.' If you start there, and follow Christ's example...
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    Cliff2, jochanaan and BrightCandle, Why is it in regards to the Sabbath that you suddenly choose to stare yourself blind against the "chapter and verse" of the Bible, and ignore its Spirit as if there were no such thing and as if it didn't influence your thinking about other matters? Did Jesus...
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    Is this a way of saying "I'm not listening"? The explanation was simple enough: it wasn't only Jews who measured months by the moon, or counted seven days to a week. Certainly, Isaiah is using a Jewish timeframe - from Sabbath to Sabbath - and it makes perfect sense because the world was ordered...
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    Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

    Translation: month after month, week after week. I.e. all the time. This hardly strengthens the case for a single day of worship! It is part of a formula ("Festivals, New Moons, Sabbaths") used throughout the Bible. This is actually a clue to the purpose God had with these religious festivals...
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