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Australia allowed Jewish hate to fester with cowardly appeasement and foolish immigration decisions

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Much like the Minnesota Democrats, the Australian Labor Party is engaged in a cynical political ploy to pander to its Muslim bloc of voters, who outnumber Jews 7 to 1.
In September, Albanese flew off to the UN General Assembly and formally recognized Palestine as a state, joining the UK, Canada and France.
As President Trump said at the time, the stunt only emboldened Hamas at a crucial time and threatened to sabotage hostage releases.
Last year, during a Middle East diplomatic trip, Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong visited Gaza but refused to visit the sites of the Oct. 7 massacres in Israel.
Australia Immigration Minister Tony Burke, who has been busy organizing visas for Gazans, was just busted having a secret meeting with officials to repatriate “ISIS brides” from Syria, asking them to make sure the media didn’t find out.

Countries around the world need to act.
 

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Much like the Minnesota Democrats, the Australian Labor Party is engaged in a cynical political ploy to pander to its Muslim bloc of voters, who outnumber Jews 7 to 1.
I've purposely not posted about the Bondi tragedy. Primarily because...well, everyone here is still trying to come to terms with it. It's pretty difficult trying to make sense of any atrocity wherever it happens in the world. But when so many innocent people are gunned down literally at the end of your street...you can't flick to another channel or turn to the sports page and mentally switch off. Most people living in the area will know someone who has been directly affected by this because there are so many Jewish people living here. My wife recognised one woman that she worked with who was briefly on screen telling the reporter that she was searching for her husband. She had no idea whether he was safe or not. He wasn't. He was one of the dead.

And I didn't want to post about it because I knew that there are those in the forum who would just want to make political mileage out of the tragedy. I've been here long enough to expect it. I know not to expect any better.

So why don't you spare a few precious words joining with members of other faiths in condemning the attack and supporting unity: https://www.australianjewishnews.com/religious-leaders-condemn-bondi-terror-attack/

'Religious leaders across Australia have united in condemning the terrorist attack on a Chanukah gathering at Bondi Beach, expressing solidarity with the Jewish community and calling for national unity.

The Australian National Imams Council (ANIC) issued a statement declaring that “an attack on one community is an attack on us all” and affirming that “antisemitism, expressed through hate, harassment, and violence directed at the Jewish community, has no place in our society”.

“We will defy the division sought by those who seek to divide us,” ANIC said, urging Muslims to “reach out to their Jewish neighbours, friends, and colleagues to offer support and comfort during this difficult time”.

Don't you agree that it would be nice if people could just do that and keep the politically motivated garbage to themselves?
 
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I agree with many others that the biggest problem in the world is a lack of recognition of evil. Very soon after this horrific event the prime minister of Australia and others in his party, joined by Congresswoman Omar in the U.S., were using the murders to push their politics for stricter gun control. Of course the vehicles in Christmas bombings are never blamed, the blind spot is that it is people, of real flesh and blood, often in radical Islam, who commit the terrorist acts. Because most Muslims are not violent is not a reason to pretend that a careful examination of people coming into a country where these groups have a strong presence is somehow racist or bigoted. It would easier to be silent about the culture of anti-semitism and anti-Christianity, but brave ones like Miranda Devine do speak out in order to try and prevent as many as possible such future events from happening.
 
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I agree with many others that the biggest problem in the world is a lack of recognition of evil. Very soon after this horrific event the prime minister of Australia and others in his party, joined by Congresswoman Omar in the U.S., were using the murders to push their politics for stricter gun control. Of course the vehicles in Christmas bombings are never blamed, the blind spot is that it is people, of real flesh and blood, often in radical Islam, who commit the terrorist acts. Because most Muslims are not violent is not a reason to pretend that a careful examination of people coming into a country where these groups have a strong presence is somehow racist or bigoted. It would easier to be silent about the culture of anti-semitism and anti-Christianity, but brave ones like Miranda Devine do speak out in order to try and prevent as many as possible such future events from happening.
So you didn't even try to make the effort. But again, I didn't expect anything else.
 
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The damage to society needs to stop.
That's it? So many men, women and children gunned down and you can't even offer a thought for those dead and those still fighting for life? All you can offer is a blazingly unsubtle bumper sticker version of your first political diatribe?
 
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That's it? So many men, women and children gunned down and you can't even offer a thought for those dead and those still fighting for life? All you can offer is a blazingly unsubtle bumper sticker version of your first political diatribe?
Welcome to the standard post shooting debrief.
 
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