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[d taylor]

That doesn't follow at all. It's like a man saying, "In my office, my friend gave me the key to his car." Where was the friend's car? Surely not in the office. The office was just the place where he gave the key to the man. Similarly, just because the key to the bottomless pit was given to the star on the earth, that doesn't mean that the bottomless pit is part of the earth.

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Look the verse plainly states the star fell to earth. If you do not believe what the verse states that is your problem

 

[d taylor]

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Revelation which is describing events during the tribulation that happen on the earth. Why on the earth because there is no other place, God created the heaven and the earth.

The lie of science that there are other worlds, universes, etc.. is just that a lie.

 

[David Lamb]

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Look the verse plainly states the star fell to earth. If you do not believe what the verse states that is your problem

I do believe what the verse says. It says that the star fell to earth. It says that the key to the bottomless pit was given to him. It doesn't even specify where the key was given to him, let alone where the bottomless pit is located.

 

[Apple Sky]

You're changing the subject.
You posted verses about the bottomless pit to try to prove that the earth is not a globe.
The verses you posted do not say that the bottomless pit is on, or part of the earth. So those verses are irrelevant to your argument.

I'm not changing the subject & I'm not trying to prove anything I'm just repeating what the Bible says.

 

[David Lamb]

I'm not changing the subject & I'm not trying to prove anything I'm just repeating what the Bible says.

So give us the bible reference where we are told that the bottomless pit is on the earth. I posted all the verses mentioning "bottomless pit," and none of them tell us where it is.

 

[d taylor]

I do believe what the verse says. It says that the star fell to earth. It says that the key to the bottomless pit was given to him. It doesn't even specify where the key was given to him, let alone where the bottomless pit is located.

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To any reasonable person it would not have to be stated out right like this.

That the star fell to earth and on the earth the star was given the key to the bottomless pit.

Because
People who do not believe, would still say something like well the star could have went somewhere after being given the key on earth.

So the star was given the key to the bottomless pit which is on the earth.

 

[Strong in Him]

If the smoke from the pit darkened the sun it stands to reason that the pit is on the earth

No, it doesn't.
Scripture does not tell us where it is - you're reading into Scripture.

 

[Strong in Him]

I'm not changing the subject

Yes, you were. You said:

There is a downward “bottomless
pit.” This is not possible on a sphere.

That is about SHAPE.
Your argument was that there cannot be a bottomless pit on a sphere/globe; therefore the earth is not a globe.
When it was pointed out to you that Scripture does not say that the B.P. is on the earth you started asking about the sun. That has nothing to do with it. The fact is, you cannot claim that the earth is not a globe because of the bottomless pit, when Scripture does not say that this pit is on the earth.

I'm just repeating what the Bible says.

The Bible does not SAY that the bottomless pit is on the earth - that is your assumption.

 

[Apple Sky]

Scripture does not tell us where it is - you're reading into Scripture.

Am I ?

 

[Strong in Him]

Am I ?

Yes.
I'm not questioning the presence, or the nature, of the pit but the fact that you said "where is a bottomless pit on a sphere?"
But as Scripture does not say that the bottomless pit is on earth; it's irrelevant what shape the earth is.

I am certain that you are bright enough to realise that. And I think you're refraining from saying "you're right; the bottomless pit does not prove the earth is flat" because you don't want to weaken your argument.

 

[Apple Sky]

The waters on earth are not curved.

Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and
the breadth of the waters is straitened.
Psa 136:6 To him that stretched out the earth above
the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

The sun is the largest luminary. Stars
are not suns.

1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and
another glory of the moon, and another glory of the
stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
Psa 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their name.

There is no such thing as a supernova.

 

[Strong in Him]

The waters on earth are not curved.

Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and
the breadth of the waters is straitened.
Psa 136:6 To him that stretched out the earth above
the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

1. Did anyone say they were?
Although, having said that, you've been shown a photo of a towering wave, and water swirling down a plughole. You expressed surprise and said that you hadn't realised.
2. The purpose of the Bible is not to give scientific details/explanation of the universe.
All together now; "the Bible is not a science textbook."
3. Not long ago you said you were going to pay more attention to poetry in the Bible.

 

[Strong in Him]

Just to remind you.

 

[prodromos]

Just as the heavens are a spiritual realm and not something physical, it stands to reason that the "bottomless pit" is also not a physical realm but a spiritual reality.
Especially since it is being described in a vision.

 

[prodromos]

To any reasonable person it would not have to be stated out right like this.

It is laughable to hear those words from a flat earther.

 

[Apple Sky]

Just as the heavens are a spiritual realm and not something physical, it stands to reason that the "bottomless pit" is also not a physical realm but a spiritual reality.

I suppose the sun, moon and all the stars are just a spiritual reality too.

 

[Apple Sky]

The earth is at rest. When it is
moved, it is a catastrophic event.

Psa 60:2 Thou hast made the earth to tremble; thou
hast broken it: heal the breaches thereof; for it
shaketh.
Psa 68:8 The earth shook, the heavens also dropped
at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was moved
at the presence of God, the God of Israel.
2Sa 22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the
foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he
was wroth.
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the
sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and
the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the
moon became as blood.
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth,
even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she
is shaken of a mighty wind.

 

[Apple Sky]

The waters on earth are not curved.

1. Did anyone say they were?

Yes.

 

[David Lamb]

The waters on earth are not curved.

Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and
the breadth of the waters is straitened.

"Straitened" not "straightened." "Straitened" means "made narrow." Nothing to do with curves!

Psa 136:6 To him that stretched out the earth above
the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever.

That verse says nothing about curves.

 

[prodromos]

I suppose the sun, moon and all the stars are just a spiritual reality too.

Physical things can be part of visions too.