Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

[Dan1988]

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Luke 4: 43 but he said to them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.”

Thank you for acknowledging that the Lord Jesus only came to save Gods elect. Your verse proves that, because the Jews thought that He only came to save them, but He told them the awful truth that nobody is saved by their ethnicity.

Revelation 7:9-10
[9] After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, [10] and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”

The people mentioned in the above verses are Gods elect, He chose us for salvation, before time began.

 

[Dan1988]

Most quoted verse in the Bible.

Here it is..."16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3-16 NIV

3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2 3-4 NIV

You are technically correct of course, because that was two verses.

Where does it say "God wants to save everyone"???? Answer Nowhere!!!!. You will have to try harder than that. Back to class you go

 

[Dan1988]

"7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah." Genesis 7 - 7 NIV

You have forgotten someone, and his wife, and their sons, and their wives.

Oh' my, thanks for correcting me. I thought Noah and His family and animals all drowned See, even a wise guy like me, makes mistakes now and then

 

[Dan1988]

That’s “moot” you’re looking for. Just beginning the hilarity in this post

Not in any rational way, anyhow.

Because you have to read it through the impenetrable fog of your hand wrought doctrine.

Because you a, shall we say “unique” understanding of what you believe the Bible “really means”, which often has little or nothing to do with what it actually says.

I don’t think anyone will have any luck finding that one.

That’s generally referred to as “death” by native English speakers.

I’m not sure we’ve seen enough evidence to convict you of that charge.

Given that nobody talks that way that isn’t really a surprise, is it?

Is that a class on various heterodox/heretical pseudo Christian sects?

Thank you for expressing your private opinion of all the above, but may I remind you that "opinions are like noses". Everybody has their own, so your private opinion is absolutely worthless to me and it represents only 1 of 8 billion opinions.
Can you even see how weak your argument is????. none of what you claim is supported by any scripture, so yeah.

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't follow human philosophy or anything the wise guys push. I just follow the Lord.

 

[RamiC]

Where does it say "God wants to save everyone"???? Answer Nowhere!!!!. You will have to try harder than that. Back to class you go

3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2 3-4 NIV

 

[RamiC]

Oh' my, thanks for correcting me. I thought Noah and His family and animals all drowned

You did say that,

God so hated the world that He killed every single man, woman, child and unborn babies in their mothers womb, with a flood. And He will cast that vast majority of mankind into the lake of fire to be tormented for all eternity. Now that's a God of love

 

[JulieB67]

Where does it say "God wants to save everyone"????

Are you really that spiritually blind? RamiC just posted the verses.

I Timothy 2:3 "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;"

I Timothy 2:4 "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

This word "will" in the Greek is thelo means to choose, prefer, to wish, be inclined.

That's what he wishes. So your doctrine is proven false even with that one verse.

Now to cut them all down, we'll start with your private interpretation of 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance".

This exhortation was given to encourage the brethren, of whom some were concerned about why the Lord Jesus doesn't judge the world and cast all the unbelievers into hell right away.

Why have you added to God's Word? There's no verse stating this. The truth is that there would be naysayers in the end times stating where is the promise of this coming and it was stated that many are foolish of the earth being of "old" and that a 1000 years is like a day to the Lord. And that he is not slack in concerning his promise but not "willing" that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. You conveniently left that part out. Naturally, because it points as well to your doctrine as being false. So this verse indeed proves that if he's not willing (desiring/wishing anyone to perish that he indeed loves the world as you falsely state otherwise.

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't follow human philosophy or anything the wise guys push. I just follow the Lord.

Sadly we know this not to be true. You have continually pushed men's word over God's Word. Proof being you continually add to God's Word. And that's coming from somewhere, most likely your teachers.

Your false doctrine makes no sense when we have verses like this-

Ezekiel 33:11 "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from you evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"

This is such a powerful statement because God states "As I live" -I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked but that they turn from their ways and live. Peter is stating the very same thing. He wants them to repent and live.

 

[JulieB67]

Why don't you ever consider the surrounding context of the verses you try to weaponize. If you cared to study the text you would find that the verses were spoken to the Jews who believed that the Messiah only came to save the Jews

Ok, do you really want to stay this ignorant of God's word? These are letters to Timothy, written by Paul. Timothy was in Esphesus at the time and these letters are doctrinal letters to him about the churches that were being set up.

Also, note this verse-

I Timothy 2:6 "Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."

And this one-

I Timothy 2:7 "Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity."

Again, Paul and Timothy were teaching Gentiles at the time. I know there were Jews there as well but to say this was only referring to Jews is false.

If you cared to study the text you would find that the verses were spoken to the Jews

Where is this text that this was only to the Jews? And where does it say they were spoken, since this is a letter addressed to Timothy?

 

[RamiC]

1 Tim 2:3-4 (NKJV) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2 3-4 NIV

The only difference between your NKJV and the NIV in this verse is the word desires v wants.

Nevertheless you wanted "one verse" to show that God wants to save everyone....this is that verse with no preference which translation....

"3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." KJV

"3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." ESV

"3 for this [is] right and acceptable before God our Saviour, 4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;" YLT

"3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth." DRA

"3 This [kind of praying] is good and acceptable and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who [a]wishes all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge and recognition of the [divine] truth." AMP

"3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth." ASV

 

[RamiC]

I get the sese that you're not even interested in the awful truth at all.

I can tell you outright, I am not remotely interested in your notion of the "awful truth".

The gospel is a different matter.

 

[RamiC]

So you don't believe that God is almighty, according to your theory, God has no control over who inherits His Kingdom. You believe it's out of His hands, well I wouldn't give you 2 cents for that type of god.

You do not need two cents, He will save anyone who asks, upon their request, no money needed, just contrition for sin.
Good manners is His strength, it is not a fault.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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