Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

[Dan1988]

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Luke 4: 43 but he said to them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.”

Thank you for acknowledging that the Lord Jesus only came to save Gods elect. Your verse proves that, because the Jews thought that He only came to save them, but He told them the awful truth that nobody is saved by their ethnicity.

Revelation 7:9-10
[9] After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, [10] and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”

The people mentioned in the above verses are Gods elect, He chose us for salvation, before time began.

 

[Dan1988]

I almost spit my coffee all over my monitor. You apparently are woefully ignorant of Church history. The Gnostics and all that they taught were widely condemned by the Church Fathers.


This is the same problem that one has in dealing with atheists - you show them proofs and because they do not wish to humble themselves and admit that they were wrong, they find all kinds of reasons and excuses to not believe.

1 Jesus Himself said "This IS my Body." What part of "IS" do you not get? The Jews in John 6, when told by Jesus that they had to "eat my flesh" and "drink my blood," went away both disgusted and utterly confused at this statement because it implied cannibalism. They took Him quite literally.

2. The Apostles learned from Christ and in turn, taught the next generation what He had taught them. If you read the sermons and letters of these first pastors of the Church, they taught TO A MAN, that the Eucharist is the very Body and Blood of Christ. WHERE did they learn such a thing except that the Apostles taught it to them.

3. The entirety of Christianity, even the heretics such as Arias, nonetheless believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. It wasn't until the Protestant Rebellion that other heretical ideas came into being.





The word remembrance is the Greek word (ἀνάμνησις) anamnēsis means more than just to remember. It is a calling to mind with the idea that the thing being remembered is actually and truly present now. It is a making present in reality of that which is being called to mind. Rituals are extremely important in a covenant relationship. No covenant is ever made without a covenant-making ritual and no covenant is repair or experienced with out ritual. Your barren intellectualism of Protestantism has nothing to do with covenant, yet we live in the New Covenant and therefore must abide by covenant rules and rituals. And to associate the Eucharist with "black magic" is heresy in extremely bad taste.



As I said, ritual is part of covenant life. You are profoundly ignorant of what it means to live in the New Covenant of God. If you want to stop being uneducated about this most important facet of the Christian life, I highly recommend this book:

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Written by a former Presbyterian Calvinist, he found that all of the rituals which he (and you) despised were actually part of the covenant relationship of God to man. And, of course, without any defense against the truth, he converted.


To hate something does not mean the same thing as to be ontologically hate. I am beyond stunned that you would make such a statement. You have no idea of ontological reality regarding God. And it is quite obvious that you are a Calvinist. You speak like one.



With that reasoning, then Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were some of the most loving people who ever existed on the face of this wretched little planet. Honestly, to suggest that someone who tortures another sentient being is a person of love is beyond the pale.

Thank you for confirming everything I suspected about the eastern Orthodox Denomination. I suspected that your rituals involve necromancy and black magic, and now you have confirmed it by claiming that "transubstantiation" actually takes place during your ceremony to crucify Christ afresh.

You guys must be under strong delusion, if you can't distinguish between "figurative, symbolic and parabolic language" in the Bible. It's sad and messed up theology when you take everything literally and miss the actual message which the scripture is proclaiming.

I look to the Lord Jesus, for instruction and teaching. You can have your confused men who change their minds about who and what they are on a regular basis. So, with all due respect, I will avoid the book your recommended and ;look to the Author and finisher of my salvation.

You have never shown me any proof that your religion is biblically correct, you say you have shown me proof, but all you have shown me is your private unbiblical opinion. None of your opinions are supported by any scripture, they all come from sinful men. God said "cursed is the man who trusts in man".

When the Church commemorates the Lord Supper, the Lord is present. God the Holy Spirit dwells in all of us Born Again Christians, so He is not in the bread or wine but He is literally in us, and you can get better than that in your religion.

 

[Dan1988]

Most quoted verse in the Bible.

Here it is..."16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3-16 NIV

3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2 3-4 NIV

You are technically correct of course, because that was two verses.

Where does it say "God wants to save everyone"???? Answer Nowhere!!!!. You will have to try harder than that. Back to class you go

 

[Dan1988]

"7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah." Genesis 7 - 7 NIV

You have forgotten someone, and his wife, and their sons, and their wives.

Oh' my, thanks for correcting me. I thought Noah and His family and animals all drowned See, even a wise guy like me, makes mistakes now and then

 

[Dan1988]

That’s “moot” you’re looking for. Just beginning the hilarity in this post

Not in any rational way, anyhow.

Because you have to read it through the impenetrable fog of your hand wrought doctrine.

Because you a, shall we say “unique” understanding of what you believe the Bible “really means”, which often has little or nothing to do with what it actually says.

I don’t think anyone will have any luck finding that one.

That’s generally referred to as “death” by native English speakers.

I’m not sure we’ve seen enough evidence to convict you of that charge.

Given that nobody talks that way that isn’t really a surprise, is it?

Is that a class on various heterodox/heretical pseudo Christian sects?

Thank you for expressing your private opinion of all the above, but may I remind you that "opinions are like noses". Everybody has their own, so your private opinion is absolutely worthless to me and it represents only 1 of 8 billion opinions.
Can you even see how weak your argument is????. none of what you claim is supported by any scripture, so yeah.

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't follow human philosophy or anything the wise guys push. I just follow the Lord.

 

[RamiC]

Where does it say "God wants to save everyone"???? Answer Nowhere!!!!. You will have to try harder than that. Back to class you go

3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 1 Timothy 2 3-4 NIV