The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

[BPPLEE]

This is why some Christians get a bad rep. They don’t seem to care about the feelings of other people and appear to go out of their way to insert themselves unsolicited into other people’s lives.

People are free to do whatever they want and I will be respectful and kind to them but I don’t believe that their delusions are reality

 

[BCP1928]

Saying gender is identity is an ideology not based on science. It’s based on a theory if anything. If adults feel that way, good for them, I don’t care.

What about children who feel that way?

And as I said, just leave minors alone. They aren’t mature enough.

Not mature enough to have feelings?

Adults can make their own decisions.

Apparently you think children can too, and don't need any guidance.

Is that not fair?

 

[BCP1928]

That honestly sounds like a healthier alternative to me.

An alternative to what? That is the way it is usually done,

 

[rjs330]

If you don't agree with using affirmative care as their therapeutic solution, what therapy should they be offered?

Psychological therapy. There is a therapy out there created by therapists called Therapy First. They have a lot of therapists and a therapy program that they have implemented that focuses on all the issues kids and adults face that believe they are trans. It's actual long term therapy. I believe it focuses mostly on kids, but adults who have not transitioned can also utilize the program.

 

[Larniavc]

People are free to do whatever they want and I will be respectful and kind to them but I don’t believe that their delusions are reality

But not kind and respectful them about what they want to be called it seems.

 

[Larniavc]

Psychological therapy. There is a therapy out there created by therapists called Therapy First. They have a lot of therapists and a therapy program that they have implemented that focuses on all the issues kids and adults face that believe they are trans. It's actual long term therapy. I believe it focuses mostly on kids, but adults who have not transitioned can also utilize the program.

Got a link. Therapy First is a too generic term to find them.

 

[RileyG]

Of course it’s rude. If you say something that upsets people you are the one being rude regardless of your feelings.

That can go both ways.

 

[RileyG]

An alternative to what? That is the way it is usually done,

Not always

 

[RileyG]

What about children who feel that way?

Not mature enough to have feelings?

Apparently you think children can too, and don't need any guidance.

Children? Why would they feel that way? Is it because someone is trying to influence them?

 

[RileyG]

This Jazz Jennings? The one going to Harvard?

Jazz Jennings - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yup.

 

[BPPLEE]

But not kind and respectful them about what they want to be called it seems.

I could get it wrong so I just avoid it

 

[RileyG]

If someone changes their name, particularly their legal name, the new name *is* their real name.

None of those names tell me anything about the gender of the person anyway, so I don't know why it matters to you.

I’m aware. That’s his birth name, but Jennings is just a stage name.

 

[RileyG]

People are free to do whatever they want and I will be respectful and kind to them but I don’t believe that their delusions are reality

I agree completely. Just use the person’s name.

 

[rjs330]

What do you mean with endorsing an ideology? So, schools have to at least discuss LGBTQ people in the political and historical sense, and schools have an obligation to make sure they are not discriminated against because of their LGBTQ status.

Schools have a responsibility to make sure no one is discriminated against. Red heads, kids with a big nose, black kids, white kids, aisian kids, religious kids, gay kids, poor kids....all kids. There is no reason to single out lgbt kids as focus on their issues and teach everyone how wonderful it is and the sexuality of it all.

You aren't trying to say that respect for all people can't be taught with out pushing a certain ideology are you?

 

[PloverWing]

There is a therapy out there created by therapists called Therapy First.

Got a link. Therapy First is a too generic term to find them.

Is it this?

Therapy First: Psychotherapy as First-Line Treatment for Gender Dysphoria

Therapy First is a non-profit professional association of over 300 mental health providers worldwide who view psychotherapy as the appropriate first-line treatment for gender dysphoria. We believe that those who are exploring gender identity or struggling with their biological sex should have...

www.therapyfirst.org

Therapy First - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rjs330]

Stop pretending information that disagree with you doesn't exist or is garbage information.
How many studies do you need to see?

I've seen all the studies. They ALL suffer from the same issues. They are unreliable for the reasons I mentioned and thus garbage. Trying to use junk research as if it's reliable encourages false belief. Thats what all the systematic reviews have proven. Stop pretending they are accurate and reliable. They aren't. You should know this by now.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Psychological therapy. There is a therapy out there created by therapists called Therapy First. They have a lot of therapists and a therapy program that they have implemented that focuses on all the issues kids and adults face that believe they are trans. It's actual long term therapy. I believe it focuses mostly on kids, but adults who have not transitioned can also utilize the program.

Are they open to the possibility that for a subset transitioning might be the best answer? Is there a medical intervention second in that program? Because here a team of specialists, including psychologists are part of the process before any medical interventions are effectuated.
Trying out a new name or gender role in school, does not conflict with psychotherapy.

How many kids gets hormones or surgery without some kind of therapeutic dialogue in the US?

 

[rjs330]

Is it this?

Therapy First: Psychotherapy as First-Line Treatment for Gender Dysphoria

Therapy First is a non-profit professional association of over 300 mental health providers worldwide who view psychotherapy as the appropriate first-line treatment for gender dysphoria. We believe that those who are exploring gender identity or struggling with their biological sex should have...

www.therapyfirst.org

Therapy First - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes.

 

[Larniavc]

Children? Why would they feel that way? Is it because someone is trying to influence them?

You can’t influence someone into marked incongruence between one's experienced or expressed gender and the one assigned at birth.

It seems some people will not accept how other people feel and need to invent causes that can be opposed.

If you feel comfortable dead naming or pronoun selecting people to their face I hope you don’t play the persecution card when you get told to go screw.

 

[RileyG]

I could get it wrong so I just avoid it

Especially if it happens by accident. They can get angry and make threats. If I don’t know their name I do my best to avoid pronouns so I don’t get it wrong.