The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

[RileyG]

Yeah, but until we live utopia, we have politics and legislation.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with education so it doesn’t need to be discussed in schools.

 

[A2SG]

I only mentioned him based on a website I seen from an ex-trans person. This website is very critical of gender ideology based on her own research and lived experience.

So a biased source. Got it.

See, I went right to the person herself, and she tells a different story. Gee, I wonder which one knows Jazz better?

If anything, with regards to Jennings, his mother is the one calling the shots. I don’t want to derail this thread, but I very much see him as a victim of narcissistic abuse.

Then maybe you should listen to her, let her speak for herself.

From everything I’ve seen, it’s beyond disturbing.

And no, I will never call a male a “she,” no matter how much he screams and demands.

Hey, you have the right to be as rude and dismissive of other people as you like.

-- A2SG, and as we move into December, this subject may come up again when some strident religious types complain about stores wishing them a Happy Holiday....

 

[RileyG]

So a biased source. Got it.

See, I went right to the person herself, and she tells a different story. Gee, I wonder which one knows Jazz better?


Then maybe you should listen to her, let her speak for herself.


Hey, you have the right to be as rude and dismissive of other people as you like.

-- A2SG, and as we move into December, this subject may come up again when some strident religious types complain about stores wishing them a Happy Holiday....

I’m not being rude. It’s simple biology. Men are not women or vice versa. The truth isn’t rude.

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[A2SG]

There is. It’s happening. I cannot post the link, but it’s very common.

You say it is happening, I say it isn't. I wonder if there's any possible way to resolve this discrepancy?

Especially among many girls who now transition because they had a friend that did (peer pressure) or a controlling mother.

I only wish Jennings the best. No young boy deserves to go through what he did. It’s sickening.

She seems fine.

-- A2SG, as to those others, maybe you should ask THEM how THEY feel.....

 

[Stopped_lurking]

What’s wrong with talk therapy and SSRI’s?

Absolutely nothing, that would be the first step by counselling/medical team especially if they also express signs of gender dysphoria.

Or even DBT/radical acceptance?

Do they have a positive track record?

 

[RileyG]

You say it is happening, I say it isn't. I wonder if there's any possible way to resolve this discrepancy?


She seems fine.

-- A2SG, as to those others, maybe you should ask THEM how THEY feel.....

HE really doesn’t, but we are getting off topic.

If adults decide to be trans, fine.

Just leave minors out of it.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Regardless, it has nothing to do with education so it doesn’t need to be discussed in schools.

Don't you discuss civics and history in school?

 

[RileyG]

Absolutely nothing, that would be the first step by counselling/medical team especially if they also express signs of gender dysphoria.

Do they have a positive track record?

I don’t know. Maybe they have dysphoria because of abuse, or an absent father, or overbearing mother? Or other trauma? Again, I’m not sure. That’s up to unbiased professionals.

 

[RileyG]

Don't you discuss civics and history in school?

Yes. That’s part of education.

LGBT+ is not.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

I don’t know. Maybe they have dysphoria because of abuse, or an absent father, or overbearing mother? Or other trauma? Again, I’m not sure. That’s up to unbiased professionals.

What doctor wouldn't have a therapeutic dialogue before prescribe medication or referring for surgery?

 

[RileyG]

What doctor wouldn't have a therapeutic dialogue before prescribe medication or referring for surgery?

I don’t know.

Hopefully most doctors are professional.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Yes. That’s part of education.

LGBT+ is not.

So there were no pink triangles in the concentration camps? No Stonewall?

 

[A2SG]

I’m not being rude.

I don't know....if someone asks you to call them by a specific name, or even by specific pronouns, and you refuse (despite their protestations) because of your own agenda, that could easily come across as rude.

Just imagine if someone came up to you and kept insisting you admit your god isn't real. How would that make you feel, I wonder?

It’s simple biology. Men are not women or vice versa. The truth isn’t rude.

And biology isn't gender. Also the truth.

Actions speak louder than words.

Yeah, they do.

-- A2SG, remember our friend Horatio.....

 

[A2SG]

HE really doesn’t, but we are getting off topic.

Well, she seems to disagree with you. I wonder who would know better?

If adults decide to be trans, fine.

Just leave minors out of it.

Already happening. No one's operating on minors; as for adolescents, it's still very rare.

-- A2SG, so problem solved. Yay!

 

[RileyG]

I don't know....if someone asks you to call them by a specific name, or even by specific pronouns, and you refuse (despite their protestations) because if your own agenda, that could easily come across as rude.

Just imagine if someone came up to you and kept insisting you admit your god isn't real. How would that make you feel, I wonder?


And biology isn't gender. Also the truth.


Yeah, they do.

-- A2SG, remember our friend Horatio.....

No. Refusing to bow down to fantasy or a specific agenda is NOT rude. And I do not accept gender ideology to begin with because I see it as harmful, so I very much see gender as biology.

Males are men. Females are women. Intersex is a birth defect.

This was well accepted until rather recently.

 

[RileyG]

Well, she seems to disagree with you. I wonder who would know better?


Already happening. No one's operating on minors; as for adolescents, it's still very rare.

-- A2SG, so problem solved. Yay!

Well I wish him the best, so there’s that.

As long as they plan to leave minors alone, I don’t care.

Mature adults can make their own decisions, the underage, not so much.

 

[RileyG]

So there were no pink triangles in the concentration camps? No Stonewall?

Irrelevant. Teaching about history isn’t endorsing an ideology. That’s the difference.

 

[A2SG]

No. Refusing to bow down to fantasy or a specific agenda is NOT rude.

Kinda depends on how you go about doing it, don't you think?

And I do not accept gender ideology to begin with because I see it as harmful, so I very much see gender as biology.

Well then, you're just wrong. But you're free to believe whatever you like.

Males are men. Females are women. Intersex is a birth defect.

This was well accepted until rather recently.

That's the funny thing about science, as we learn new stuff, it changes.

-- A2SG, pretty much what happens when you rely on evidence instead of dogma....

 

[A2SG]

Well I wish him the best, so there’s that.

I'm sure she appreciates that.

-- A2SG, don't know her personally, but she seems nice....

 

[RileyG]

Kinda depends on how you go about doing it, don't you think?


Well then, you're just wrong. But you're free to believe whatever you like.


That's the funny thing about science, as we learn new stuff, it changes.

-- A2SG, pretty much what happens when you rely on evidence instead of dogma....

Wrong because I don’t accept an ideology? That’s just an opinion and nothing more.

This isn’t about dogma. It’s about protecting minors from being harmed by an extreme ideology and things they don’t understand.