The Mamdani Model: More Socialist Mayors to ComeBeware! The DSA will attempt to repeat Mamdani’s success in other Democrat strongholds.

[Landon Caeli]

That's just arguing over what our national history and national identity actually are. Maybe instead of tearing down statues of old Marse Bob we should tear down Hillsdale College.

You want to tear down the Christian college that Pat Sajak is the trustee of? Why on earth would you say that?

 

[Landon Caeli]

And why capitalism doesn't work either then?

Go with Muskism. Muskism is the idea of having everything automated 100% into a cashless society, where bots make so much of everything, nothing ever runs low, and everyone can have infinite amounts of anything they want for the rest of their life.

...I choose a Muskist economy!

 

[Yarddog]

You are correct. People are evil. Which is why socialism cannot work.

That means that Capitalism can't work either.

 

[Landon Caeli]

That means that Capitalism can't work either.

AI bots cannot be good or evil? Because they don't have a conscience?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That means that Capitalism can't work either.

It can and does with appropriate legislation to protect workers. I still think it is amazing how liberals are now out in the open about how they really feel about socialism.

 

[Gene2memE]

And so how do you know whether or not only certain countries were invited into the OECD data set to begin with, in order to produce a desired outcome?

Because the OECD is the successor to the OEEC, which was formed in post-war Europe to promote democracy and open markets.

Countries wanting membership need to meet the organization's criteria on democracy, rule of law, free markets and human rights. So, there's a limited set of countries that are eligible for membership.

Sorry, but there's not so many countries in the world that it couldn't have been done to produce a true, realistic picture, rather than a selective one.

OECD is useful because they have specific data sharing and reporting standards. So you know you're getting a like-for-like comparison. It's not selective, it's limited/exclusive. The countries that are compared in OECD are the only ones that can be compared in OECD data - because they're the only ones that the OECD receives data on.

 

[rambot]

Go with Muskism. Muskism is the idea of having everything automated 100% into a cashless society, where bots make so much of everything, nothing ever runs low, and everyone can have infinite amounts of anything they want for the rest of their life.

...I choose a Muskist economy!

Funny.

I would prefer to lean into an Amish life if that were my other option.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Funny.

I would prefer to lean into an Amish life if that were my other option.

Yeah, Billie Eilish might agree, according to her lyrics.

 

[rambot]

Yeah, Billie Eilish might agree, according to her lyrics.

A love song?

 

[Landon Caeli]

A love song?

Yes, perhaps. But having everything she ever wanted, actually became a nightmare.

EDIT> actually I think the song is about her committing suicide by jumping off the golden gate bridge, sooo.. Never mind...

 

[Landon Caeli]

Countries wanting membership need to meet the organization's criteria on democracy, rule of law, free markets and human rights. So, there's a limited set of countries that are eligible for membership.



OECD is useful because they have specific data sharing and reporting standards. So you know you're getting a like-for-like comparison. It's not selective, it's limited/exclusive. The countries that are compared in OECD are the only ones that can be compared in OECD data - because they're the only ones that the OECD receives data on.

There's no reason Uruguay shouldn't be included.

 

[Gene2memE]

In the OECD, or in the chart?

 

[Landon Caeli]

In the OECD, or in the chart?

Both? I mean, isn't it a chart of OECD countries? There's nothing unusual about Uriguay, that would prevent them from being part of it. Argentina could qualify too, I don't see why a bunch of countries aren't part of it.

 

[Yarddog]

AI bots cannot be good or evil? Because they don't have a conscience?

And?

 

[Yarddog]

It can and does with appropriate legislation to protect workers.

And Socialism has worked.

I still think it is amazing how liberals are now out in the open about how they really feel about socialism.

I think that it is amazing how closed minded right wingers are. Many think that they understand a subject but show how little they know when they respond. They condemn Socialism but embrace it because they don't understand their own system.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

And Socialism has worked.

When?

...and don't bring up the Nordic countries, they're not socialism, they're capitalist models with an expanded welfare state. (which is different than socialism)

 

[Fantine]

I'm honestly not all that worried about other cities trying the "Mamdani model"...

I'll explain why.


While I voiced concerns about Mamdani's economic policies...I explained that it was due to the fact that NYC is the seat of the financial sector, and certain taxes and regulations happening there can most certainly impact a lot of people who aren't in NYC due to the fact that almost all of us has some sort of account or financial offering with a entity that's in NYC (banks, investments, credit card, 401k's, etc...)

But a socialist running the city that's the seat of economic sector is the "worst case scenario" as far as concerns of that nature go, for reasons that are very unique to NYC, and that's already happened, he is the mayor elect, nothing can change that now. (Plus, a lot of NYC's stuff is still subject to state-level oversight due to aspects of their "limited home rule". So there are some damage control levers in place.)

A DSA member running virtually any other blue city has virtually no impact on anyone who doesn't live there, and actually provides the added benefit of giving the kids a real-world "history repeats itself" course in the kinds of policies that sound nice on paper, but fail in spectacular fashion when tried in the real world. (since a lot of the DSA support base are too young (or weren't born yet) to remember anything from the 80's)

Those politics are succeeding in Europe and Asia.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Those politics are succeeding in Europe and Asia.

Which politics in particular?

Certain left-leaning political moves are drawing quite a bit of backlash in Europe right now (at least on the immigration front)

Things like universal healthcare are obviously popular in Europe and Asia, but those aren't things that are decided at a Mayoral level.