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Why Zohran Mamdani won and New York will pay a terrible price

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Zohran Mamdani has been elected mayor of New York, the USA’s most populous city. Mamdani, 34, is a self-professed Democratic Socialist and a Muslim. He was elected with just a shade over 50% of the vote in a 3-way race with former Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Republican Curtis Sliwa.

How did New York City, arguably the world capital of capitalism, elect a Democratic Socialist (on a good day) and a Communist (on a bad day) mayor? If one takes issue with the word Communist, I would submit as evidence Mamdani’s statement that “you must seize the means of production” (emphasis supplied).

Mamdani ran on a platform including free childcare up to and including age 5, a rent freeze on the city’s over 1 million rent-controlled apartments, free (and “fast”) bus service, and government-run grocery stores.

When you break the race down by income groups, the results are surprising and informative. Mr. Cuomo won among the lowest income group (under $30,000 by 50% to 42%) and the highest income group ($300,000 or more, 62% to 38%). However, the former governor lost everywhere in between to the young Socialist. Among the $30,000 to $49,999 group, Mamdani won (52% to 40%).

Among the $50,000 to $99,999 group and the $100,000-$199,999 group, Mamdani won 58% to 38%. Among the $200,999-$299,999 annual income group, Mamdani won 56% to 42%. So Mamdani won decisively among all but the lowest and highest income groups.

When broken down by age groups, Mamdani won 18 to 29-year-olds 77% to 20% and among the 30-44 age group, 70% to 27%. Cuomo carried the 45-64 age group 49% to 47% and those 65 and over voted for Cuomo 54% to 38%.

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Ok so "Mamdani won 18 to 29-year-olds 77% to 20% and among the 30-44 age group, 70% to 27%"

18 to 44 vote him in at 70% or more.

Let all who voted for democratic socialism in NYC have their own means of production seized just as Mamdani stated. They could pool their resources and have the sort of communism that "pooled resources" with "means of production seized by the government" is intended to provide.

We could then send missionaries to NYC.

But what if NYC citizens then try to escape? Try to sneak over the border to free America? Should we wall them out?
 
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According to Rodney Stark's "Cities of God", 2000 years ago Christianity spread through and flourished in the cities of the Roman world. Today, urban centers are giving rise the Woke Cult, as with NYC and Seattle. Seems to be some sort of "ominous (anti-)parallel"
 
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The people of New York, who are people of the USA of course, elect someone Trump doesn't like. So what is Trump's statesmanlike response - congratulate Mamdani or threaten economic sanctions against a powerhouse of the US economy? Rhetorical question of course.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Not including Muslims but Lincoln omitted to say that didn't he.

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Hmm what do the highlighted words mean with regards to respecting the free democratic choice of the people? Maybe Lincoln was thinking "the people" didn't include New Yorkers (not counting Trump of course)? Quite a few New Yorkers fought and died for the Union side I believe.

https://cupola.gettysburg.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1289&context=compiler
While many minority groups have had their contributions and accomplishments during the Civil War
recognized, one group of Americans has received little attention. Muslim Americans are rarely the focus of
Civil War scholars and are typically viewed as a demographic relevant only to more modern history.
This
should not be the case. In fact, Muslim Americans have served in virtually every armed conflict in United
States history and left their mark on every era, including the Civil War. A simple search using the Civil War
Soldiers and Sailors System (CWSS) reveals several names associated with Islam, including two Mahomets,
two Hasans, three Rahmans, three Alis, 17 Saids, and 58 Hassans. In his Muslim Veterans of American Wars,
Amir N. Muhammad theorized that as many as 292 Muslim last names appear in muster roles. Additionally, as
many as 15% of African slaves brought to America are believed to have practiced Islam
. While these summary
statistics provide an overview of the scope of Muslim American involvement in the Civil War Era, their
personal stories truly show their importance in shaping America.
 
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Zohran Mamdani has been elected mayor of New York, the USA’s most populous city. Mamdani, 34, is a self-professed Democratic Socialist and a Muslim. He was elected with just a shade over 50% of the vote in a 3-way race with former Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Republican Curtis Sliwa.

How did New York City, arguably the world capital of capitalism, elect a Democratic Socialist (on a good day) and a Communist (on a bad day) mayor? If one takes issue with the word Communist, I would submit as evidence Mamdani’s statement that “you must seize the means of production” (emphasis supplied).

Mamdani ran on a platform including free childcare up to and including age 5, a rent freeze on the city’s over 1 million rent-controlled apartments, free (and “fast”) bus service, and government-run grocery stores.

When you break the race down by income groups, the results are surprising and informative. Mr. Cuomo won among the lowest income group (under $30,000 by 50% to 42%) and the highest income group ($300,000 or more, 62% to 38%). However, the former governor lost everywhere in between to the young Socialist. Among the $30,000 to $49,999 group, Mamdani won (52% to 40%).

Among the $50,000 to $99,999 group and the $100,000-$199,999 group, Mamdani won 58% to 38%. Among the $200,999-$299,999 annual income group, Mamdani won 56% to 42%. So Mamdani won decisively among all but the lowest and highest income groups.

When broken down by age groups, Mamdani won 18 to 29-year-olds 77% to 20% and among the 30-44 age group, 70% to 27%. Cuomo carried the 45-64 age group 49% to 47% and those 65 and over voted for Cuomo 54% to 38%.

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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out
 
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The people of New York, who are people of the USA of course, elect someone Trump doesn't like. So what is Trump's statesmanlike response - congratulate Mamdani or threaten economic sanctions against a powerhouse of the US economy? Rhetorical question of course.


Not including Muslims but Lincoln omitted to say that didn't he.


Hmm what do the highlighted words mean with regards to respecting the free democratic choice of the people? Maybe Lincoln was thinking "the people" didn't include New Yorkers (not counting Trump of course)? Quite a few New Yorkers fought and died for the Union side I believe.

https://cupola.gettysburg.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1289&context=compiler
Mamdani proudly admits that he is a Democratic Socialist. Also, I truly doubt that he has any real respect for the US Constitution. IMHO, he will be a real disaster for NYC.
 
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But what if NYC citizens then try to escape? Try to sneak over the border to free America? Should we wall them out?
I mean, they already are lol Have you seen the numbers that are trying to leave right now? It's insane. Link
 
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Mamdani proudly admits that he is a Democratic Socialist. Also, I truly doubt that he has any real respect for the US Constitution. IMHO, he will be a real disaster for NYC.
The OP stated he was a "Muslim" in a way that implied that would be a bad thing for New York who don't need any help from me or you in deciding who to vote for.

"Democratic socialism" - like in Scandinavian countries for many years since WW2 - of course the people in those countries are all poverty stricken as a result. How's their life expectancy cf US?
 
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The OP stated he was a "Muslim" in a way that implied that would be a bad thing for New York who don't need any help from me or you in deciding who to vote for.

"Democratic socialism" - like in Scandinavian countries for many years since WW2 - of course the people in those countries are all poverty stricken as a result. How's their life expectancy cf US?
Do you want to be like Scandavia where the governments take about 70% of your income?
 
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Do you want to be like Scandavia where the governments take about 70% of your income?
If you're trapped in a car after an accident will your first thought be about the size of your bank balance?

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
Note that the verse refers to people, not states.
 
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The OP stated he was a "Muslim" in a way that implied that would be a bad thing for New York who don't need any help from me or you in deciding who to vote for.

"Democratic socialism" - like in Scandinavian countries for many years since WW2 - of course the people in those countries are all poverty stricken as a result. How's their life expectancy cf US?
But what Mamdani is advocating is not democratic socialism like in the Scandinavian countries. He's calling for the city to
abolish the police department, to take over the grocery stores and to tax white neighborhoods higher than minority
neighborhoods.

This is not an egalitarian society as they have in the Scandinavian countries.
 
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But what Mamdani is advocating is not democratic socialism like in the Scandinavian countries. He's calling for the city to
abolish the police department, to take over the grocery stores and to tax white neighborhoods higher than minority
neighborhoods.

This is not an egalitarian society as they have in the Scandinavian countries.
There's going to be many people who will want to put their own interpretation on what Mamdani says and does, so if you want me to take this post seriously it needs to be backed up by up to date video evidence of him saying these things.

e.g.
As his opponents accuse him of trying to undermine public safety, Mamdani has disavowed his past calls to defund the police
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/30/politics/zohran-mamdani-police-nypd-defund

What have you got against egalitarian societies?

Many studies show that the larger the income differences in a society, the weaker local community life is. With more inequality, people are less likely to belong to local organisations and voluntary groups, they are less likely to take part in community activities and less likely to know their neighbours. Research also shows that people are not only less likely to feel they can trust others in more unequal societies but also that violence (as measured by homicide rates) becomes very much more common in more unequal societies. Together, the studies confirm what many people have recognised intuitively over the centuries: that inequality increases social divisions and weakens social cohesion. And as inequality increases, the social bonds of reciprocity and sense of community which, in more egalitarian societies, knit neighbourhoods together, give way to self-interest, status competition and a drive for self-advancement.

The causal process seems to be that bigger income differences make the divisions of class and status more powerful, increasing the idea that some people are worth much more than others. As a result, we come to judge each other’s personal worth more by status and, at the same time, worry more about how others judge us. Insecurities about our own self-worth increase so we feel more anxious about social comparisons and less at ease with other people. In short, social relationships become increasingly marred by the social awkwardnesses and fears which accompany considerations of superiority and inferiority. As George Bernard Shaw said, “Inequality of income takes the broad, safe, and fertile plane of human society and stands it on its edge so that everyone has to cling desperately to her foothold…”
For better or worse? - Equality Trust
 
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