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The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

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They very much do see the sun above them, watching the 360 view of the TFE shows that clearly, I'm going off of the videos provided in this thread, not the top of my head. Clearly, very clearly the sun is above them the whole time.



Ok, here we go dear ones, these images are in response to hopefully much of whatever questions have been asked by anyone that I did not read just yet, please look over these images carefully and really think.


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The question for thought is in the second picture.

The "flat earth" stance I subscribe to is biblical, so the earth is not a flat disk floating in "outer space" rather, the land is in water covered by a dome, outside of the dome is more water, more ocean, the ocean outside the dome is more violent, but we are not under it. The water is coming from the throne of God that is on top of the dome, it flows down and around the dome constantly filling and expanding the outside ocean.

In this case, given the 24 hour video, we see the path the sun takes, at first it is farther away from them, as it makes its way left and behind them, it is closer to them, as it goes around it goes back out a bit farther, but it stays visible to them the whole time, because of where they are in relation to its path. As I hope everyone can see, in this case a sincere flat earth depiction explains what is seen better than the globe model.
Do you know that we have airplanes now that can go around the world, right? You do know that we have traveled to every country in the world, right? You do know that there is absolutely nothing that can prove a flat earth, right?
 
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Beyond the Antarctic Circle, at 62.5°S, the sun never sets for at least 2 weeks during Summer. That means the sun is visible across your entire ice ring, not just the little grey dot. Your flat earth explanation fails spectacularly to account for that.
You also have the sun visible in the Arctic which simply does not happen in Winter where the sun never rises.
Your diagram explains nothing and also runs counter to many established flat earth beliefs. Congratulations.
 
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To @prodromos & to anyone else it may concern ..............

Thanks Will Duffy, you've just helped to prove flat earth.


Read Genesis 1:1-14
 
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The earth is not flat though.

It's not a ball either, it is a level circle.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
 
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It's not a ball either, it is a level circle.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

God’s own creation and the study of His creation shows that it's a not a level circle or a flat circle (which is a distinction without a difference). The earth is a globe. End of.
 
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To @prodromos & to anyone else it may concern ..............

Thanks Will Duffy, you've just helped to prove flat earth.


Read Genesis 1:1-14
Why do you keep posting videos with absolutely no evidence whatsoever? That’s just a guy making statements. No evidence, no proof, just statements. Seems to be the flat earth way - make statements and claim “proof”. Well no it isn’t proof, it’s just making statements.

And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth.
 
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It's not a ball either, it is a level circle.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Not again. This has been explained to you over and over. Your memory is definitely bad!
 
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God’s own creation and the study of His creation shows that it's a not a level circle or a flat circle (which is a distinction without a difference). The earth is a globe. End of.

It's flat & level.

Job 38:4-11
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. / Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched a measuring line across it? / On what were its foundations set, or who laid its cornerstone.

You can't stretch a measuring line across a ball.
 
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And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth.

It might be poetry but this is true.

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. Job 38:14
 
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It might be poetry but this is true.

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. Job 38:14
Oh give it up! That is to do with how the coming of the dawn is like clay under a seal. Nothing to do with the shape of the earth. Just read the surrounding verses to get the context.

12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.

Job 38:12-15 KJV

This has also been explained to you many times. But still you don’t see the obvious.

At this stage it’s obvious you are just trying to wind people up. You’ve no evidence, never mind proof, of the earth being flat.
 
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Oh give it up! That is to do with how the coming of the dawn is like clay under a seal. Nothing to do with the shape of the earth. Just read the surrounding verses to get the context.

You said, "And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth." well your wrong, as clearly is does.

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. Job 38:14
 
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You said, "And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth." well your wrong, as clearly is does.

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. Job 38:14
No it doesn’t. Not in context. The context is about how the light of the dawn changes the earth like clay under a seal.

You have a real problem understanding context. All you’re doing is cherry picking a verse out of context and making a claim to suit your own ends. That’s called abuse of Scripture.

And I explained this to you before in another thread. Here’s what I said.

Otherwise God is talking about the morning exposing the wicked and suddenly detours for one verse about the shape of the earth before returning to the morning exposing the wicked again. Nope. That doesn't work. Study the Bible, not just cherry pick verses that you can strip away the context in order to make claims which make no sense to the context of the actual passage.
 
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Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
We are aware that Isaiah and Job were written before the Greeks discovered and demonstrated the spherical nature of the Earth. That doesn't make the "flat earth" description in those books correct.
 
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No it doesn’t. Not in context. The context is about how the light of the dawn changes the earth like clay under a seal.

You have a real problem understanding context. All you’re doing is cherry picking a verse out of context and making a claim to suit your own ends. That’s called abuse of Scripture.

And I explained this to you before in another thread. Here’s what I said.

Otherwise God is talking about the morning exposing the wicked and suddenly detours for one verse about the shape of the earth before returning to the morning exposing the wicked again. Nope. That doesn't work. Study the Bible, not just cherry pick verses that you can strip away the context in order to make claims which make no sense to the context of the actual passage.

Only going by what you said which was, "And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth." .
 
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Only going by what you said which was, "And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth." .
No you’re not. You’re trying to be smart, and failing!

You’ve tried this type stupidity before, so I’ll word it differently so that your brain works properly. The Bible does not tell us what shape the earth actually is, neither directly nor indirectly.
 
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The Bible does not tell us what shape the earth actually is, neither directly nor indirectly.

Oh please, make your mind up do. This is not what you initially you said, "And the Bible says nothing about the shape of the earth."
 
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