Trump live updates: President expands ‘narco’ boat strikes to Pacific Ocean as 8th boat is struck

[rjs330]

No, they don't

Yes they do. I have friends in the Drug investigation, interdiction enforcement and the manufacturers and dealers absolutely want to kill Americans. The closer to death the better the high and they purposely lace their drugs with lethal amounts. Not all of them, but enough, as high as 10%, which makes their drugs more desirable because of the high it produces.

 

[rjs330]

And please dont compare this to an incoming missile or other immediate peril. Thats just insulting that you think people would fall for that.

Then I wont bother responding because it absolutely is like that. Those dealers COUNT on killing Ameticans with those drugs. They create those drugs with the PURPOSE of killing Americans. They lace a certain percentage of their drugs with LETHAL amounts.

 

[rjs330]

Your example of violence being inflicted on me as somehow being the same as an addict hurting himself is bad. If that is your clearest explanation, then you may as well give up since you just said you can't do better.

Your the one who asked why I should care because it doesnt affect me.

If your husband was to beat you that wouldnt affect me either. But I would care anyway.

Just like I care that millions of people have been killed by those drug dealers even though it doeant affect me personally.

Now do you get it? Its patently a faulty argument to say, "why do you care if people are hurt or killed, it doesn't affect you."

 

[rjs330]

Second. Are you sure the courts have even weighed in on the legality of this? Citation?

I believe Hazelpoli posted a legal professor going over the legal.arguments for this, including legal precedence. In the end, this may end up in the Supreme Court and they will look at all the legal arguments for, or against and determine if these actions are Constitutional or not. I would suggest finding that video. It was informative.

 

[rjs330]

I can and it does.

No it doesn’t. You are to forgive someone who sins against YOU. It has nothing to do with government paying for helping drug addicts who won't stay clean.

Okay.

Good

I hope so

Me too.

You just said we should help them a couple of times, then stop if they relapse yet again.

I see, its always an all or nothing thing with you? There can be no compromise on governement interventions? This is why we cant really find agreement. Either government pays all the time everytime for everything always or nothing.

Im.sorry, but with that kind of attitude and thinking we can never find common ground.

Im done with you on this subject.

 

[rjs330]

Customers dying is not the goal of drug dealing as customers are an essential part of the business model.

Ive addressed this numerous times now. Yes it is. They build into their drugs lethal doses. They do it becauae it produces a greater high and it actually makes their drugs more desirable.

 

[DaisyDay]

Your the one who asked why I should care because it doesnt affect me.

If your husband was to beat you that wouldnt affect me either. But I would care anyway.

Again with your fantasy of my being beaten. This obsession is bordering on the pathological.

Just like I care that millions of people have been killed by those drug dealers even though it doeant affect me personally.

Now do you get it? Its patently a faulty argument to say, "why do you care if people are hurt or killed, it doesn't affect you."

That is not my argument. Reading comprehension! Perhaps address my actual argument instead of this nonsense? I realize this is unlikely as you seem to be committed to disputing something I did not say.

No it doesn’t. You are to forgive someone who sins against YOU. It has nothing to do with government paying for helping drug addicts who won't stay clean.

Sure it does.

Good

Me too.
I see, its always an all or nothing thing with you?

No, that's major projection on your part.

There can be no compromise on governement interventions? This is why we cant really find agreement. Either government pays all the time everytime for everything always or nothing.

What the heck are you on about? Who ever said there can be no compromise? The government has never paid all the time for drug addiction rehab and I have never thought they did. Maybe if you try you can understand my actual argument, but that would require your wanting to understand.

Im.sorry, but with that kind of attitude and thinking we can never find common ground.

Im done with you on this subject.

And yet, three minutes later:

Ive addressed this numerous times now. Yes it is. They build into their drugs lethal doses. They do it becauae it produces a greater high and it actually makes their drugs more desirable.

That's ridiculous. Smugglers don't sell direct to consumers. The dealers don't want their customers to die because dead people are notoriously non-customers, but it's probable that they don't really know the actual composition of the drugs - it's not like they do quality assurance testing. This is why heavy regulation would ease the dangers of addiction - think of methadone clinics.

 

[wing2000]

Reuters' extensive, open-source reporting of the build-up of US forces in the Caribbean. This reads like a DIA Intelligence report....

While the endgame of the massive buildup is not yet clear, the pieces are in place for operations inside Venezuela, something President Donald Trump suggested last Thursday.

“The land is going to be next,” he said.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-CARIBBEAN/MILITARY-BUILDUP/egpbbnzyrpq/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Daily-Briefing&utm_term=110325&lctg=62347fe4ea3e6439186f0ea6

 

[durangodawood]

Then I wont bother responding because it absolutely is like that. Those dealers COUNT on killing Ameticans with those drugs. They create those drugs with the PURPOSE of killing Americans. They lace a certain percentage of their drugs with LETHAL amounts.

That makes them just like any person these days who is suspected of having these kind of drugs in the trunk of their car for the purpose of selling.

Interdiction and prosecution of these people is how justice for this is supposed to look in the Christian west. Not summary execution, which itself is lawlessness.

 

[Belk]

Yes they do. I have friends in the Drug investigation, interdiction enforcement and the manufacturers and dealers absolutely want to kill Americans. The closer to death the better the high and they purposely lace their drugs with lethal amounts. Not all of them, but enough, as high as 10%, which makes their drugs more desirable because of the high it produces.

This sounds like some D.A.R.E. level propaganda said by someone who has never taken drugs in their life and has no idea how they work.

 

[wing2000]

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—The US Navy struck a superyacht carrying Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, Ginni, as it cruised off the coast of Venezuela, the Pentagon confirmed on Sunday.

As Navy divers searched for the Thomases, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called the sinking of the 160-foot-long luxury vessel “an honest mistake.”

“When you’re going after narcoterrorists, every now and then you’re going to hit a Supreme Court justice,” he said.

 

[rjs330]

This sounds like some D.A.R.E. level propaganda

Nope, county. State and DEA agents. If you don't believe them, then there's nothing I can do. Ive been in some of their classes. Interesting stuff.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

'Meth Busters': CBP officers in Eagle Pass halt massive drug shipment bound for United States

Border agents in Eagle Pass, Texas seized 90 pounds of liquid methamphetamine worth over $800k hidden in plastic bottles during a vehicle inspection this week.

www.foxnews.com

The drug smugglers and narco terrorists really do want to kill Americans. I'm thankful to the Lord Jesus Christ that this shipment of illegal drugs was found and stopped at the border.

Where they blow up. Or given dual process ? What border. Since there's been so many blowing up boats being blown up.

 

[Belk]

Nope, county. State and DEA agents. If you don't believe them, then there's nothing I can do. Ive been in some of their classes. Interesting stuff.

I'm not talking with them. I don't believe you. There is no drug that works better because you are close to death.

 

[rjs330]

I'm not talking with them. I don't believe you. There is no drug that works better because you are close to death.

Fine, I don't care what you believe.

 

[rjs330]

Why dont we just legalize all drugs. Then leave yge junkies alone. We could have major pushes to warn everyone like we do with cigarettes. Then the junkies are on their own if they choose to do drugs. We could prohibit them from doing drugs in public due to the danger to the public, but other than that, treat it no different than cigarettes.

 

[Vambram]

Where they blow up. Or given dual process ? What border. Since there's been so many blowing up boats being blown up.

Media Pretend Trump Attacks On Cartels Are Unprecedented

Trump is using lethal strikes against drug cartel boats, and journalists are confident that nothing like this has ever happened before.

thefederalist.com

We have over 40 years of history showing US Presidents using our military to attack the narco cartels.

 

[wing2000]

Media Pretend Trump Attacks On Cartels Are Unprecedented

Trump is using lethal strikes against drug cartel boats, and journalists are confident that nothing like this has ever happened before.

thefederalist.com

We have over 40 years of history showing US Presidents using our military to attack the narco cartels.

40 years? More distortion from The Federalist which correctly presumes it's readers won't verify their spin.
The article cites one operation in 1986.

According to the referenced PBS News report: Operation Blast Furnace
"Most (U.S. troops) provide logistical support."
The Bolivian army carried out the raids on cocaine processing centers.

There is no mention of the U.S. military bombing..... or killing Bolivian drug suspects. And the US military was there at the invitation of the Bolivan government.

More background:
In July 1986, under pressure to meet U.S.-imposed counternarcotics targets, Bolivia hosted the first major U.S. military commitment to the drug war. That operation – dubbed “Blast Furnace” – involved the use of six U.S. Black Hawk helicopters and their support personnel to ferry Bolivian police during raids on cocaine processing laboratories.(10) Later, a similar mission, “Operation Snowcap,” deployed U.S. Army Special Forces and DEA personnel to provide paramilitary training, law enforcement planning, intelligence and advisory support for counterdrug raids on cocaine processing labs and airstrips in Bolivia, Peru and Ecuador. U.S. military personnel were confined to their bases, however, where they trained host country forces to take on joint operations with DEA agents.

War in Colombia - Volume I

 

[Bradskii]

Media Pretend Trump Attacks On Cartels Are Unprecedented

Trump is using lethal strikes against drug cartel boats, and journalists are confident that nothing like this has ever happened before.

thefederalist.com

We have over 40 years of history showing US Presidents using our military to attack the narco cartels.

If your argument is that it's OK because you've done it before and the evidence that you produce is shown to be wrong, then You do realise that don't have an argument any more? Notwithstanding that the argument itself is fallacious (I'll assume that I really don't have to explain why).

 

[Vambram]

40 years? More distortion from The Federalist which correctly presumes it's readers won't verify their spin.
The article cites one operation in 1986.

According to the referenced PBS News report: Operation Blast Furnace
"Most (U.S. troops) provide logistical support."
The Bolivian army carried out the raids on cocaine processing centers.

There is no mention of the U.S. military bombing..... or killing Bolivian drug suspects. And the US military was there at the invitation of the Bolivan government.

More background:
In July 1986, under pressure to meet U.S.-imposed counternarcotics targets, Bolivia hosted the first major U.S. military commitment to the drug war. That operation – dubbed “Blast Furnace” – involved the use of six U.S. Black Hawk helicopters and their support personnel to ferry Bolivian police during raids on cocaine processing laboratories.(10) Later, a similar mission, “Operation Snowcap,” deployed U.S. Army Special Forces and DEA personnel to provide paramilitary training, law enforcement planning, intelligence and advisory support for counterdrug raids on cocaine processing labs and airstrips in Bolivia, Peru and Ecuador. U.S. military personnel were confined to their bases, however, where they trained host country forces to take on joint operations with DEA agents.

War in Colombia - Volume I

https://www.tni.org/files/download/Reluctant%20recruits%20report_0.pdf

I suppose that you might think these files are also a distortion?