The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

[contratodo]

Because the Earth spins on its axis as it rotates around the Sun. That's how we get dawn

How is it that they see the sun itself for 24 hours in TFE?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

How is it that they see the sun itself for 24 hours in TFE?

You tell me. You're the one making the claim that a 24 hour sun in the Arctic or Antarctic can be explained by a flat Earth.

 

[contratodo]

You tell me. You're the one making the claim that a 24 hour sun in the Arctic or Antarctic can be explained by a flat Earth

I did that already with an image in this thread. The globe model fails to explain it I guess.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

When they have 24 hours of sun, not just light, the sun itself as we can see in the videos on this thread, how is it that people on the opposite side of the ball have light? For example Greenland and Alaska and parts of Canada.

They don't (if they live close enough to the pole), right now the sun in Abisko, in northern Sweden is only visible between approximately 0800 to 1400. From late november to end of january it won't be up at all.

So when Antarctic have 24h of sun light the Arctic have no sun light. There are whole towns above the Arctic circle. How long these periods are depends on the latitude.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I did that already with an image in this thread. The globe model fails to explain it I guess.

Your 'drawing' is bunk. It's literally just a disc going around the Sun to explain it away, ignoring that such an idea makes the idea of dawn and dusk, with the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, impossible on such a model.

You're a fool.

 

[Gene2memE]

If the sun is a giant ball many times bigger than earth and millions of miles away, why do we all experience dawn? A gradual change from dark to light. Should it not be an immediate change, a hard line between light and dark?

Earth's rotation, Earth's curvature and the atmospheric diffusion of light.

 

[contratodo]

They don't, right now the sun in Abisko, in northern Sweden is only visible between approximately 0800 to 1400. From late november to end of january it won't be up at all

How is it that the sun, outside of the sky and millions of miles away does not completely light up the whole part of the earth facing it?

 

[contratodo]

Your 'drawing' is bunk. It's literally just a disc going around the Sun to explain it away, ignoring that such an idea makes the idea of dawn and dusk, with the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, impossible on such a model.

You're a fool

A disk? The orange line is the path not a disk. Because it circles and goes far away from the viewer the effect of dawn happens.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

How is it that the sun, outside of the sky and millions of miles away does not completely light up the whole part of the earth facing it?

The Earth's rotational axis is slightly tilted so now in the northern hemisphere winter not all of the higher latitudes face the sun.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

A disk? The orange line is the path not a disk. Because it circles and goes far away from the viewer the effect of dawn happens.

You're now even confused by your own drawing. Not a good sign.

And no, that's not how dawn and dusk would happen at all. The sun doesn't get closer or further, it 'rises' and 'sets' because of the axial tilt of the Earth and the rotation of the Earth around the sun. You would not get a sunrise, a horizon, or anything like that on a flat earth.

 

[contratodo]

The Earth's rotational axis is slightly tilted so now in the northern hemisphere winter not all of the higher altitudes face the sun

So then in the backside, the side not facing the sun, it is always night? That should be easily provable.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So then in the backside, the side not facing the sun, it is always night? That should be easily provable.

You have to be a troll. There's no way anyone, not even someone believing in a flat earth, can make such comments as this.

 

[contratodo]

You're now even confused by your own drawing. Not a good sign.

And no, that's not how dawn and dusk would happen at all. The sun doesn't get closer or further, it 'rises' and 'sets' because of the axial tilt of the Earth and the rotation of the Earth around the sun. You would not get a sunrise, a horizon, or anything like that on a flat earth.

I'm not confused, the blue is water, I did not draw any land, the light blue is ice. GOE stands for garden of Eden. The orange circle is the suns path. That path shrinks and grows and also circles. The sun moving far away cause dusk, the sun arriving from far away cause dawn.

 

[Gene2memE]

How is it that the sun, outside of the sky and millions of miles away does not completely light up the whole part of the earth facing it?

It does though.

But, are you taking into consideration the fact of Earth's axial tilt?

North and South are not perpendicular to the incoming rays of the sun, but rather offset by the Earth's tile of 23.5 degrees. Think about what that means for someone standing at the poles at either hemisphere.

Or, you could simply draw an equatorial line and some poles on a ball. Then get a bright light source and see what the effect is yourself.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm not confused, the blue is water, I did not draw any land, the light blue is ice. GOE stands for garden of Eden. The orange circle is the suns path. That path shrinks and grows and also circles. The sun moving far away cause dusk, the sun arriving from far away cause dawn.

Next time, make sure to label your drawings then or at least explain it from the beginning. Either way, it's a stupid thing overall.

And again, no, that's not how dawn and dusk would happen at all. The sun doesn't get closer or further, it 'rises' and 'sets' because of the axial tilt of the Earth and the rotation of the Earth around the sun. You would not get a sunrise, a horizon, or anything like that on a flat earth.

 

[contratodo]

You have to be a troll. There's no way anyone, not even someone believing in a flat earth, can make such comments as this

You all are saying dawn is due to earths rotation
Only one half of the earth ever faces the sun, if the sun does not move and is in the middle of the solar system, yes? Can you explain how the side not facing the sun receives any light from the sun? I guess not, because when you all have no explanation you resort to name calling and the like.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

So then in the backside, the side not facing the sun, it is always night? That should be easily provable.

Yes, it is night on the part of Earth pointing away from the sun. But during 24h the earth completes a rotation around its own axis, that is why we have day and nights. For some areas close to the poles they either get polar day or polar night due to the tilt of the axis.

There are two rotations going on, earth around its own axis and the earth around the sun.

 

[contratodo]

And again, no, that's not how dawn and dusk would happen at all. The sun doesn't get closer or further, it 'rises' and 'sets' because of the axial tilt of the Earth and the rotation of the Earth around the sun. You would not get a sunrise, a horizon, or anything like that on a flat earth

As the sun "sets", one can take something like a p900 and zoom in and still see the sun, because it does not go below a curve, but rather out of view of the observer.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You all are saying dawn is due to earths rotation
Only one half of the earth ever faces the sun, if the sun does not move and is in the middle of the solar system, yes? Can you explain how the side not facing the sun receives any light from the sun? I guess not, because when you all have no explanation you resort to name calling and the like.

Do you know what the word rotate even means? Do you get why we say that the dawn is caused by the Earth rotating on its axis as it goes around the sun?

Because if you do but bluntly ignore what you're being told then I have no other recourse but to call you a troll.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

As the sun "sets", one can take something like a p900 and zoom in and still see the sun, because it does not go below a curve, but rather out of view of the observer.

... no they can't!