The sequence of events

[Douggg]

This is the sequence of events:

1. the resurrection/rapture event.
2. then the great tribulation - time of the beast
3. then Jesus returns to earth - with His bride
4. then the martyred great tribulation saints will be resurrected.
5. then the 1000 years of Revelation 20 take place.

 

[ChubbyCherub]

Thanks for this! I will use this, if you don't mind, when talking to my church about the rapture.

 

[Douggg]

Thanks for this! I will use this, if you don't mind, when talking to my church about the rapture.

Certainly, show the sequence with the chart at your church.

 

[keras]

Certainly, show the sequence with the chart at your church.

And confuse and delude everyone.
Neither 1 Thess 4:14-18 or 1 Thess 5:9-11, say people will go to live in heaven.
1/ is a Prophecy about what happens when Jesus Returns. The faithful people will go with Jesus to Jerusalem. Matthew 24:30-31
2/ is a general encouragement for our daily lives now. Jesus is with us Spiritually. Until the end of the age. Matthew 28:19-20

What Pastors should preach, is how we must stand firm in our faith, as we pass through all that is going to happen. 1 Peter 4:12

 

[ChubbyCherub]

And confuse and delude everyone.
Neither 1 Thess 4:14-18 or 1 Thess 5:9-11, say people will go to live in heaven.
1/ is a Prophecy about what happens when Jesus Returns. The faithful people will go with Jesus to Jerusalem. Matthew 24:30-31
2/ is a general encouragement for our daily lives now. Jesus is with us Spiritually. Until the end of the age. Matthew 28:19-20

What Pastors should preach, is how we must stand firm in our faith, as we pass through all that is going to happen. 1 Peter 4:12

I don't know if my church believes in the rapture. That is what the discussion is going to be about i.e. their stance. I was raised believing in the rapture but not sure I believe in it now.

 

[Douggg]

My response is don't get discouraged.

 

[keras]

My response is; Know the truth and it will set you free.

While the fond imaginings of the 'rapture to heaven' believers is an easy and nice anticipation for them, when it doesn't happen, as the world faces disaster, Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation6:12-17, their not knowing which way to turn; Luke 21:25-26, will make it very difficult for them.

CC, may I suggest you look at the articles on the rapture theory on; www.logostelos.info

 

[JulieB67]

I don't know if my church believes in the rapture. That is what the discussion is going to be about i.e. their stance. I was raised believing in the rapture but not sure I believe in it now.

Hello
I was raised in a church that taught a pretribulation rapture as well and it is not biblical. So it's good that you're questioning the teaching. Many of us have been down that same road.

I do know that both Christ and Paul give out strict warnings on not to be deceived about the Lord's return/our gathering back to him. So it's very important.

The disciples asks for signs of the end of the world/age and he lays them out. And Paul nails down the timing in 2nd Thes chapter 2. The Thessalonians were confused by most likely his first letter and he wrote the second one and tells us what must happen before our gathering back together.

II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

II Thessalonians 2:2 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand."

II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away (apostasy in the Greek) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"