Why do people hate ICE...

[essentialsaltes]

Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino accused of violating restraining order by throwing tear gas in Little Village

MSN

Greg Bovino Immediately Flouts Chicago Court Order, Lawyers Say

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Feds Drop Case Against Man Accused of Injuring Greg Bovino’s Groin

The man who federal agents accused of dealing Greg Bovino a groin injury from which the Border Patrol commander purportedly needed two weeks to recover will no longer face charges after prosecutors on Monday moved to drop their case against him.

Per a motion to dismiss the complaint, federal prosecutors will no longer pursue a charge of impeding a federal officer. Cole Sheridan, the protester, was initially charged with assaulting and impeding a federal officer over an Oct. 3 protest in which a Homeland Security Investigations agent accused the man of shoving Bovino. Prosecutors could still bring charges against Sheridan in another form.

Bovino has become a one-man flashpoint in Operation Midway Blitz, the administration’s escalation in Chicago, orchestrating showy stunts like a raid on a South Side apartment complex last month that involved Black Hawk helicopters. More recently, Bovino made a series of bizarre tactical hand gestures as he left a court hearing last week while surrounded by press.

Footage of the alleged altercation failed to support the assault claim, per reports from the hearing.

Bovino can't obey court orders and yet again DHS exaggerates incidents to threaten protestors with legal troubles.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

It is true that ICE did enter a school in Chicago:

ICE Detains Criminal Migrants Who Hid in a Chicago Area K-12 School

ICE caught two criminal migrants as they ran into a Chicago area school, expecting they would be safe from apprehension inside.

www.breitbart.com

ICE is required to follow the law in regard to where and when they make arrests. Those who want federal law changed can work with their elected representatives in Congress.

I am the first to say ICE has not broken any laws.

Should Americans accept law enforcement arresting worshippers at church services, detaining people in schools in front of children, wearing masks to conceal their identity like in Iran, or conducting door-to-door arrests? Should we allow officers to demand papers from individuals based on appearance? While none of these actions may technically violate the law, is this truly the America we want?

Approximately 40% of Americans are comfortable with this America, which reflects their right to choose the country they prefer.

But many of us do not agree with this America, and I assure you that our sentiments will be reflected in the upcoming elections.

 

[Hans Blaster]

"When sanctuary jurisdictions refuse to honor ICE detainers, they only endanger the people they purport to protect. ICE will continue to prioritize the safety of our Washington, D.C. and Virginia communities by arresting and removing such criminal alien offenders from our streets.”

ICE apprehends Salvadoran illegal alien previously arrested 10 times and charged with 19 crimes, including malicious shooting, unlawful wounding, use of a firearm in commission of a felony and assault and battery

ICE officers arrested Jorge Armando Melendez-Gonzalez, 27, after Fairfax County officials refused to honor an ICE immigration detainer and released him back into the community.

www.ice.gov

What's a "detainer"?

 

[Valletta]

What's a "detainer"?

ICE asks the authorities to hold a criminal in jail until they pick him up rather than releasing the criminal.

 

[Hans Blaster]

ICE asks the authorities to hold a criminal in jail until they pick him up rather than releasing the criminal.

The "criminal" in question is a criminal because they were arrested by the local police for a crime under their jurisdiction. They will be released or not based on the rulings of the local judge and bail rules. Apparently (from what you wrote) ICE makes requests to have people held for reasons not supported by any crimes they are charged with, just some desire that they be "detained" in excess of what local criminal law requires.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The "criminal" in question is a criminal because they were arrested by the local police for a crime under their jurisdiction. They will be released or not based on the rulings of the local judge and bail rules. Apparently (from what you wrote) ICE makes requests to have people held for reasons not supported by any crimes they are charged with, just some desire that they be "detained" in excess of what local criminal law requires.

Not even remotely accurate.

Dual Authority: Federal vs. Local Charges

A person wanted for a federal crime can be held by local authorities if they are arrested for a separate, unrelated local or state offense. Here's what typically happens:

• Local Arrest First: If someone commits a local crime (e.g., burglary, assault, drug possession), local police can arrest and detain them—even if there's a federal warrant outstanding.
• Federal Hold or Detainer: Once the person is in local custody, federal authorities (like the FBI or U.S. Marshals or ICE) may issue a detainer—a formal request to hold the person until federal agents can take custody.
• Jurisdictional Priority: Usually, the jurisdiction that arrests the person first gets to prosecute their case first. After that, they may transfer the person to federal custody.

Legal Coordination

• No automatic override: A federal warrant doesn’t automatically override local charges. The person must go through the legal process for the local offense before being handed over.
• Inter-agency cooperation: Local and federal agencies often coordinate to ensure both sets of charges are addressed.

gotta love AI - makes it so easy.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The only people I have seen, who hate ICE, so far are the criminals and those who support them.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Not even remotely accurate.

Dual Authority: Federal vs. Local Charges

A person wanted for a federal crime can be held by local authorities if they are arrested for a separate, unrelated local or state offense. Here's what typically happens:

• Local Arrest First: If someone commits a local crime (e.g., burglary, assault, drug possession), local police can arrest and detain them—even if there's a federal warrant outstanding.
• Federal Hold or Detainer: Once the person is in local custody, federal authorities (like the FBI or U.S. Marshals or ICE) may issue a detainer—a formal request to hold the person until federal agents can take custody.
• Jurisdictional Priority: Usually, the jurisdiction that arrests the person first gets to prosecute their case first. After that, they may transfer the person to federal custody.

Legal Coordination

• No automatic override: A federal warrant doesn’t automatically override local charges. The person must go through the legal process for the local offense before being handed over.
• Inter-agency cooperation: Local and federal agencies often coordinate to ensure both sets of charges are addressed.

gotta love AI - makes it so easy.

AI;DR

 

[Always in His Presence]

AI;DR

EIEIO

I know it can be embarrassing, but the truth is the truth.

 

[rambot]

I'm just looking forward to the time when it's red blooded Americans killing and raping Americans instead of foreigners ruining the country.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Faith leaders blocked by ICE from delivering Communion to immigrants speak out​

The Coalition for Spiritual and Public Leadership (CSPL), a Catholic and Christian-rooted nonprofit, organized a Mass by the immigration processing center on All Saints Day and Día de los Muertos, or the Day of the Dead.

Okińczyc-Cruz said that CSPL formally submitted a letter requesting access more than a week in advance and took numerous steps for ministers to give Communion to migrants in the Broadview facility. This is the second time they were denied entry since their first attempt on Oct. 11, he told ABC News.

For nearly two decades, [Sister JoAnn] Persch and the late Sister Pat Murphy prayed for immigrants outside of the center, she said. A starkly different scene on Saturday emerged: leaders were not permitted to walk all the way down to the building, she told ABC News.

After speaking with the Illinois State Police, an officer called a supervisor of the Broadview Center, who said they could not come in due to safety reasons, Persch told ABC News.

"My thought after was, 'whose safety?' I had been in that building for 10 years, never any serious threat to me," she said.

Okińczyc-Cruz told ABC News the nonprofit plans to again ask for a meeting and submit another request to offer communion to people inside the Broadview facility. He stressed that without that opportunity, officials are "infringing upon people's religious freedom and religious liberty."

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

The only people I have seen, who hate ICE, so far are the criminals and those who support them.

A major issue in American politics today is equating policy disagreement with hatred toward policymakers. We should avoid using inflammatory language to describe differences of opinion. For productive and respectful conversations, it's important to choose thoughtful words when we disagree.

 

[rambot]

Faith leaders blocked by ICE from delivering Communion to immigrants speak out​

The Coalition for Spiritual and Public Leadership (CSPL), a Catholic and Christian-rooted nonprofit, organized a Mass by the immigration processing center on All Saints Day and Día de los Muertos, or the Day of the Dead.

Okińczyc-Cruz said that CSPL formally submitted a letter requesting access more than a week in advance and took numerous steps for ministers to give Communion to migrants in the Broadview facility. This is the second time they were denied entry since their first attempt on Oct. 11, he told ABC News.

For nearly two decades, [Sister JoAnn] Persch and the late Sister Pat Murphy prayed for immigrants outside of the center, she said. A starkly different scene on Saturday emerged: leaders were not permitted to walk all the way down to the building, she told ABC News.

After speaking with the Illinois State Police, an officer called a supervisor of the Broadview Center, who said they could not come in due to safety reasons, Persch told ABC News.

"My thought after was, 'whose safety?' I had been in that building for 10 years, never any serious threat to me," she said.

Okińczyc-Cruz told ABC News the nonprofit plans to again ask for a meeting and submit another request to offer communion to people inside the Broadview facility. He stressed that without that opportunity, officials are "infringing upon people's religious freedom and religious liberty."

Well that's an interesting one.

My guess? "Your faith and practicing it, doesn't matter if you're here illegally...."

 

[camille70]

Democrats never had consistent policy for today's immigration challenges. At times, they discuss strict deportation, but in power, actions are limited; when facing liberal opposition, they shift toward open border policies.

President W. Bush was the only president with a practical immigration policy. He aimed to strengthen borders, enforce current laws, update outdated immigration policies, and show compassion toward those who overstayed visas or entered illegally but had since worked hard and contributed to society. However, that kind of sensible policy was rejected by more than 37 Republican senators, as well as liberal senators like Bernie Sanders and a few other Democrats.

President Trump lacks a clear immigration policy and is focusing on mass deportations. When this administration's term ends, these actions are likely to cease, and the US will revert to its previous approach.

One consequence of President Trump's actions is the increasing shift of Latino voters toward the Democratic Party. There are millions of Latino supporters of Trump who have been affected by mass deportation policies. Many of these families, despite being American citizens, are impacted by the administration's stance and may be unlikely to support Republican candidates in the future. For example, it is difficult to imagine a son whose father was deported under a Republican-led administration choosing to vote for a Republican candidate later in life. Similarly, a grandfather who’s granddaughter and her mother deported due to these policies would likely hesitate to support another Republican.

A comprehensive immigration reform, similar to what W. Bush proposed, is needed to address immigration issues. We should strengthen and secure the border to prevent unauthorized entry, update asylum laws for modern needs, and revise the court system so immigrants with criminal records are denied permanent status and deported more swiftly. The process for eligible immigrants should be expedited, and we should show compassion to undocumented individuals who have lived in the U.S. for decades.

There was a bipartisan bill that Trump told the GOP to oppose, and so they did. They have not come back with another plan because, imo, they don't want immigrants from non white countries at all.

Senators unveil bipartisan bill to impose tougher asylum and border laws

The $118 billion package is the result of months of negotiations between Senate Republicans and Democrats, as well as the Biden administration. It's not clear it will pass Congress.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[camille70]

Not even remotely accurate.

Dual Authority: Federal vs. Local Charges

A person wanted for a federal crime can be held by local authorities if they are arrested for a separate, unrelated local or state offense. Here's what typically happens:

• Local Arrest First: If someone commits a local crime (e.g., burglary, assault, drug possession), local police can arrest and detain them—even if there's a federal warrant outstanding.
• Federal Hold or Detainer: Once the person is in local custody, federal authorities (like the FBI or U.S. Marshals or ICE) may issue a detainer—a formal request to hold the person until federal agents can take custody.
• Jurisdictional Priority: Usually, the jurisdiction that arrests the person first gets to prosecute their case first. After that, they may transfer the person to federal custody.

Legal Coordination

• No automatic override: A federal warrant doesn’t automatically override local charges. The person must go through the legal process for the local offense before being handed over.
• Inter-agency cooperation: Local and federal agencies often coordinate to ensure both sets of charges are addressed.

gotta love AI - makes it so easy.

This simply rephrased the exact comment you quoted, using more words.

 

[camille70]

“I Don’t Feel Safe”: Black Memphis Residents Report Harassment by Trump’s Police Task Force

“I Don’t Feel Safe”: Black Memphis Residents Report Harassment by Trump’s Police Task Force

A pastor was pulled over for looking lost. A 72-year-old was marched out in his bathrobe due to mistaken identity. Memphis’ mayor welcomed the federal law enforcement surge, but some residents say they feel targeted just going about their lives.

www.propublica.org

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

There was a bipartisan bill that Trump told the GOP to oppose, and so they did. They have not come back with another plan because, imo, they don't want immigrants from non white countries at all.

Senators unveil bipartisan bill to impose tougher asylum and border laws

The $118 billion package is the result of months of negotiations between Senate Republicans and Democrats, as well as the Biden administration. It's not clear it will pass Congress.

www.nbcnews.com

Don’t you think it was too little and too late?

Immigration reform is a contentious issue in American politics. President Biden is an experienced politician familiar with Washington, and his decision to address immigration in an election year was nothing but politics.

If Democrats and President Biden intended to address immigration, they should have acted in the first month. Waiting until 2024 to take action seems insincere.

A similar approach was taken by the Obama administration. When President Obama had a majority of 60 senators in the Senate, he did not introduce immigration reform. He waited until both chambers were under Republican control before addressing immigration reform.

Neither party appears willing to address this issue. Both parties seem intent on leveraging it for political purposes.

The main difference today between Republicans and Democrats is that some Republicans believe it is acceptable for American law enforcement officers to wear masks and riot gear similar to those seen in Tehran when conducting door-to-door operations to apprehend single mothers or grandfathers, whereas Democrats prefer not to take any action.

 

[rjs330]

Feds Drop Case Against Man Accused of Injuring Greg Bovino’s Groin

The man who federal agents accused of dealing Greg Bovino a groin injury from which the Border Patrol commander purportedly needed two weeks to recover will no longer face charges after prosecutors on Monday moved to drop their case against him.

Per a motion to dismiss the complaint, federal prosecutors will no longer pursue a charge of impeding a federal officer. Cole Sheridan, the protester, was initially charged with assaulting and impeding a federal officer over an Oct. 3 protest in which a Homeland Security Investigations agent accused the man of shoving Bovino. Prosecutors could still bring charges against Sheridan in another form.

Bovino has become a one-man flashpoint in Operation Midway Blitz, the administration’s escalation in Chicago, orchestrating showy stunts like a raid on a South Side apartment complex last month that involved Black Hawk helicopters. More recently, Bovino made a series of bizarre tactical hand gestures as he left a court hearing last week while surrounded by press.

Footage of the alleged altercation failed to support the assault claim, per reports from the hearing.

Bovino can't obey court orders and yet again DHS exaggerates incidents to threaten protestors with legal troubles.

This is telling from the judges statement.

“Without video of the actual physical exchange … there is only the evidence of the hearsay statement of Bovino,” Magistrate Judge Heather K. McShain reportedly said.

This judge should be impeached. No video of the actual exchange? Are you kidding me? There is rarely any video of any exchange between a victim and a suspect. There is testimony. A victim testifying is witness to their own victimization. Is this idiotic judge making rape victims show video of the actual altercation?

This judge is obviously biased against ICE and should be barred from any proceedings involving them.

Bovino probably should have gone to a doctor and gotten medical records. In my jurisdiction officers if assaulted can testify to the pain of an assault even if they don't have actual video. In a scuffle with the suspect there is rarely any video of the actual strike, grab or punch because of the cameras inability to capture that moment do to the bodies moving and parts blocking the lense etc. The officer can still testify that it happened and the charges move forward. This is moronic.

 

[essentialsaltes]

This is telling from the judges statement.

The DOJ has dropped the case. So maybe they know how good Bovino's testimony is.

 

[camille70]

This is telling from the judges statement.

“Without video of the actual physical exchange … there is only the evidence of the hearsay statement of Bovino,” Magistrate Judge Heather K. McShain reportedly said.

This judge should be impeached. No video of the actual exchange? Are you kidding me? There is rarely any video of any exchange between a victim and a suspect. There is testimony. A victim testifying is witness to their own victimization. Is this idiotic judge making rape victims show video of the actual altercation?

This judge is obviously biased against ICE and should be barred from any proceedings involving them.

Bovino probably should have gone to a doctor and gotten medical records. In my jurisdiction officers if assaulted can testify to the pain of an assault even if they don't have actual video. In a scuffle with the suspect there is rarely any video of the actual strike, grab or punch because of the cameras inability to capture that moment do to the bodies moving and parts blocking the lense etc. The officer can still testify that it happened and the charges move forward. This is moronic.

They've been caught lying so many times judges no longer assume the govt is telling the truth.