Democrats never had consistent policy for today's immigration challenges. At times, they discuss strict deportation, but in power, actions are limited; when facing liberal opposition, they shift toward open border policies.
Broadly speaking and this may be an exaggeration to make a general point. But I see two underlying ideas about societal and even world order. The Left of politics has always and mostly related to the counter culture, freedoms of expression, movement, and rights. Especially of the excluded. Generally more socialist I guess as well.
Whereas the Right is more by the rules, and laws and tradition. Or conservative approach, be thrifty with money and an emphasis or law and order. Hense border and national security.
They differ on forigne policy and immigrations. One believes that borders and nations are a cultural construction. The other a real national boundary that unifies a culture. I know thats simplistic but I think at least these are some of the ideas. Though there will be variations where its the reverse. Its just a generalisation and broadly speaking.
President W. Bush was the only president with a practical immigration policy. He aimed to strengthen borders, enforce current laws, update outdated immigration policies, and show compassion toward those who overstayed visas or entered illegally but had since worked hard and contributed to society. However, that kind of sensible policy was rejected by more than 37 Republican senators, as well as liberal senators like Bernie Sanders and a few other Democrats.
I have seen each of the democrat presidential candidates and presidents state the exact same policy as Trump.
I also think times have changed and its a different world to back then. In some ways even though it was an obvious issue even back then. I think its become 10 times worse. Not just in more refugees and undocumented immigrants. But more radicalism and all the bad stuff that goes with it has increased. Like tons of drugs coming over the borders.
Not just the US but many western nations. Like what Murray said. It seems insanity that western nations would more or less open their borders to millions of unknown immigrants in a time when radicalism was rising and spreading.
In the last 25 years nations imnmigration levels have skyrocketed and none are being integrated. It is crazy policy that asks for trouble and now we are seeing the conflicts spill onto streets.
President Trump lacks a clear immigration policy and is focusing on mass deportations. When this administration's term ends, these actions are likely to cease, and the US will revert to its previous approach.
Yes we can see a pattern of this. Which in itself is poor policy for the nation. Back and forth changes and confusion and chaos. No continious and conssistent policy that lets everyone know the law and then apply that law so that people see you mean it. It just undermines the nation and tells those trying to take advantage that the nations don't know what they are doing.
One consequence of President Trump's actions is the increasing shift of Latino voters toward the Democratic Party. There are millions of Latino supporters of Trump who have been affected by mass deportation policies.
This seems a strange turn around as I think Trumps Latino vote increased in the election. Those who voted knew his policy on immigration. The wall and all that and the promise of a tough stance on illegal and criminal immigration.
So they knew exactly that Trump was going to be deporting at least some of their people. They seemed to vote for him anyway.
Many of these families, despite being American citizens, are impacted by the administration's stance and may be unlikely to support Republican candidates in the future. For example, it is difficult to imagine a son whose father was deported under a Republican-led administration choosing to vote for a Republican candidate later in life. Similarly, a grandfather who’s granddaughter and her mother deported due to these policies would likely hesitate to support another Republican.
Yes. Those affected would find it hard to vote for someone who split up their family or caused them to go back to their nation not to seperate. They have been there long enough to start a family and new life.
We had similar controversies. Also wrongful deportations and arrests. These are wrong and spoil the other good work I think. Its hard especially when it has been allowed to go on. I think like any major change its ok to compromise and state from this point onwards this will be the case. That way your making an exception and still upholding the rule.
But I also think some cases have been misrepresented so as to create a false narrative which exasperates the tensions and conflicts where then every deportation, even genuine ones are objected to.
A comprehensive immigration reform, similar to what W. Bush proposed, is needed to address immigration issues. We should strengthen and secure the border to prevent unauthorized entry, update asylum laws for modern needs, and revise the court system so immigrants with criminal records are denied permanent status and deported more swiftly. The process for eligible immigrants should be expedited, and we should show compassion to undocumented individuals who have lived in the U.S. for decades.
Yes I agree. The thing is when we step back and look at the bigger picture. How long has this been going on and is it getting worse. I know the populations are growing. I think radicalism is growing.
We have had dictators destroying nations and making people flee. The UN was suppose to help these nations become free and democratic. It seems they have cultivated the exact opposite by turning a blind eye.
Western nations cannot keep being the worlds safe zones as it seems this ends up making everything unsafe. It should have been the other way around. We should have stood up to the unjust and evil and stopped it gettingout of hand. Now its going to take drastic measures.
Like Gaza. It could have been a Rivierra now if the government did the right thing and instead of people fleeing they would be queuing up to live there. Why can't we help these nations get their act together. We have evidence of nations turning things aroound.
