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[Apple Sky]

Psalm 60 also says that God has "shaken the land and torn it open". Another Psalm talks of the foundations of the earth being shaken.

Yes, these are earthquakes but in these verses they are not.

• 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable."
• Psalm 93:1: "The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."
• Psalm 96:10: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable..."
• Psalm 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."
• Isaiah 45:18: "...who... fixed it fast

 

[Apple Sky]

The Psalms are poetry and contain many great teachings but they use imagery at times to accomplish this.

And what about these verses;

• 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable."
• Psalm 93:1: "The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."
• Psalm 96:10: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable..."
• Psalm 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."
• Isaiah 45:18: "...who... fixed it fast

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes, these are earthquakes but in these verses they are not.

• 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable."
• Psalm 93:1: "The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."
• Psalm 96:10: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable..."
• Psalm 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."
• Isaiah 45:18: "...who... fixed it fast

Immovable means that it cannot be moved - i.e by something or someone else.
Not that it cannot move at all.

The earth can rotate on its own axis and move, in a circuit, around the sun - that's it. It cannot go anywhere else.
It is not going to wander around the night skies, so that we get too close to/too far away from the sun and get burnt up or freeze. It is not suddenly going to find that it has wandered off, got lost and is in danger of falling down a black hole. And no other force in the whole universe - angels, demons or whatever are going to pick the earth up and put it somewhere else or throw it around. No wind can blow it off course.

Why can't it? Because God has made it that way. God wants it to be where it is so that we - the people he created, lived and died for - can have life.
I don't know any technical details but someone has said that if this planet were a fraction closer to/further away from the sun, life could not be sustained. If the earth rotated a fraction faster we'd fall off. If any things that sustain life on our planet were different, we wouldn't be here.
(Someone else here may know the full details.)
That is amazing. And it is so because God, our Creator, wants it to be so. None of it is down to luck, chance or whatever; God made it that way. God decided, God created, God established.

The Bible doesn't spell any of this out or give scientific/astronomic details - because it is not a scientific textbook and that is not its purpose. But, I am sure, that is what the authors meant - this is God's wold and it cannot be altered or moved by anything else.

 

[Strong in Him]

• Psalm 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."

The earth doesn't have literal foundations anyway.

 

[Hentenza]

And what about these verses;

• 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable."
• Psalm 93:1: "The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."
• Psalm 96:10: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable..."
• Psalm 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."
• Isaiah 45:18: "...who... fixed it fast

Same. It’s all for His glory. Don’t make Him into a liar by assigning literal meaning to what is clearly imagery and poetic meaning.

 

[Apple Sky]

The earth doesn't have literal foundations anyway.

King James Bible
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding Job 38:4

 

[Strong in Him]

King James Bible
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding Job 38:4

What do you understand by "foundations"?

The foundations of a building are under the building, supporting it. The foundations have to be built on rock or anchored to something.
What is the earth built on, or anchored to?

 

[Apple Sky]

What is the earth built on, or anchored to?

The underworld, Sheol.

 

[Strong in Him]

The underworld, Sheol.

You think the whole of this world is build on the underworld - the place of the dead?
This world was created before anyone had died. God created all things and said it was very good, Genesis 1:31. Genesis does not say anything about the underworld.

 

[prodromos]

And what about these verses;

• 1 Chronicles 16:30: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable."

1 Chronicles 16 records David singing a Psalm of thanksgiving, so once again it is poetry, full of symbolism. If you want to insist it is literal then your claim is now that the earth is a sentient being and trees have voices.

Worship the Lord in holy array;​

tremble before him, all the earth;​

yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.​

Let the heavens be glad, and let the earth rejoice,​

and let them say among the nations, “The Lord reigns!”​

Let the sea roar, and all that fills it,​

let the field exult, and everything in it!​

Then shall the trees of the wood sing for joy​

before the Lord, for he comes to judge the earth.​

• Psalm 93:1: "The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."
• Psalm 96:10: "He hath fixed the earth firm, immovable..."
• Psalm 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."
• Isaiah 45:18: "...who... fixed it fast

More poetry.

 

[Apple Sky]

You think the whole of this world is build on the underworld - the place of the dead?
This world was created before anyone had died. God created all things and said it was very good, Genesis 1:31. Genesis does not say anything about the underworld.

Mathew 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.

 

[Strong in Him]

Mathew 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.

That's got nothing to do with what I said.
I wasn't questioning if the underworld existed, I was questioning the fact that you think the foundations of this world are in the underworld.

Nowhere in Genesis 1, or indeed the Bible, does it say that the foundations of this world are the underworld.

 

[prodromos]

The underworld, Sheol.

In Luke 16, paradise is visible from Hades.

 

[Apple Sky]

I wasn't questioning if the underworld existed, I was questioning the fact that you think the foundations of this world are in the underworld

Oh sorry, I thought you were asking if they existed.

Job 38:6 indicates that the foundations are themselves fastened upon something else.
IMO they are fastened upon the underworld.

 

[Apple Sky]

In Luke 16, paradise is visible from Hades.

Yes - What separated them is a place called 'Abraham's bosom' where the righteous dead await redemption & is a place where the rich was not.

 

[Hentenza]

Oh sorry, I thought you were asking if they existed.

Job 38:6 indicates that the foundations are themselves fastened upon something else.
IMO they are fastened upon the underworld.

““Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the measuring line over it? “On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy? ¶“Or who enclosed the sea with doors When it went out from the womb, bursting forth; When I made a cloud its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling bands, And I placed boundaries on it And set a bolt and doors,”
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Job 38:4-10 “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the measuring line over it? “On what were its ba | New American Standard Bible - NASB

“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the measuring line over it? “On what were its ba

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Look at the symbolism applesky. From the beginning is construction symbolism. Do you think God used a measuring line to measure the earth before creating it? Do you realize that the cornerstone is God? Do you know what a cornerstone is? Do you think that the morning stars actually sang together? Did God make a garment for the cloud and then swaddled it like a baby? Did He set a door with lock on earth? Think. Learn the beauty of poetic language and the tremendous teachings that they offer.

 

[Apple Sky]

Learn the beauty of poetic language and the tremendous teachings that they offer.

Thank you Hentenza, I will.

 

[Strong in Him]

Oh sorry, I thought you were asking if they existed.

Job 38:6 indicates that the foundations are themselves fastened upon something else.
IMO they are fastened upon the underworld.

In your opinion - but Scripture doesn't say.

 

[Hentenza]

Thank you Hentenza, I will.

Are you really? Are you going to stop interpreting obvious symbolic and poetic scripture literally?

 

[Apple Sky]

In your opinion - but Scripture doesn't say.

I know, such a shame. I know - Maybe I can look up a you-tube video that can tell us