Why do people hate ICE...

[camille70]

NG not ICE, but related.

A man was arrested for playing Darth Vader's theme music, "The Imperial March," behind National Guard troops walking through Logan Circle. Now the ACLU is suing on his behalf.

From the filing:

4. The law might have tolerated government conduct of this sort a long time ago in a galaxy
far, far away. But in the here and now, the First Amendment bars government officials from
shutting down peaceful protests, and the Fourth Amendment (along with the District’s prohibition
on false arrest) bars groundless seizures

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.286143/gov.uscourts.dcd.286143.1.0.pdf

Here is a vid. When I first saw this several weeks ago, I thought it was fake, just the music imposed on top of the video, but he was actually following them around.

https://x.com/washingtonpost/status/1981356570777673997

 

[camille70]

Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino accused of violating restraining order by throwing tear gas in Little Village

MSN

Greg Bovino Immediately Flouts Chicago Court Order, Lawyers Say

MSN

 

[camille70]

Judge orders feds to preserve videos of agents using tear gas; ICE says some footage likely erased

For hours, a judge questioned officials at the heart of the government's immigration enforcement operation in Chicago on Monday.

abc7chicago.com

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/federal-judge-clears-path-for-deposition-of-top-border-patrol-commander-ice-officials/3841101/

Tweet:
Judge Sara Ellis is allowing the deposition of Border Patrol boss Greg Bovino to expand to FIVE hours (she'd limited it to 2), and she wants to hear about use of force by CBP in Little Village this week.

Plus a reminder to "preserve all body-worn camera footage."

https://x.com/SeidelContent/status/1981453629954371834

 

[camille70]

Democrats are fed up with ICE traumatizing kids at schools

Democrats are fed up with ICE traumatizing kids at schools

At least half a dozen Democratic senators, led by Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, are calling on the Department of Education to stop immigration raids near schools. The letter, which was sent on ...

www.dailykos.com

 

[camille70]

At Bay Area protest, a second pastor is shot by federal agents with a pepper round

OAKLAND, Calif. (RNS) — For the second time in six weeks, a pastor was struck in the head with a pepper round fired by a US immigration agent as faith leaders protested the arrival of more than 100 US Customs and Border Patrol agents.

religionnews.com

MSN

Video:

https://x.com/Kaos_Vs_Control/status/1981821670206660907

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

US Citizen Dragged From Car by Border Patrol in Chicago​

A Chicago woman has told Newsweek she was "forcibly removed" from her vehicle by federal immigration agents.

Dayanne Figueroa, a U.S. citizen and paralegal, said an unmarked government vehicle struck her car at the 1600 block of West Hubbard Street in Chicago on the morning of October 10, while she was on her way to get coffee before going to work.

"I was in shock and terrified," Figueroa told Newsweek. "Instead of handling the situation as a routine traffic incident, the masked agents, armed in hands, forcibly removed me from my car without questions and without informing me that I was under arrest."

Let's see the pathetic excuses from trump supporters for this one.

And before they repeat the lies being proffered by a DHS spokesnazi that "Figueroa's vehicle blocked agents and struck an unmarked government vehicle.", the video showing the Ice scumbags doing a U-turn in the middle of the road and hitting the victims car can be seen as plain as day in the video on the page.

The paralegal said she was transported to multiple undisclosed locations and was not allowed to contact her family or legal counsel. She said she was never charged with a crime or informed of a legal reason for her detention.

That's what fascism looks like.

 

[bèlla]

Looking to speed up building network of migrant detention centers, Trump administration turns to the US Navy

The Department of Homeland Security is funneling $10 billion through the Navy to help facilitate the construction of a sprawling network of migrant detention centers across the US in an arrangement aimed at getting the centers built faster, according to sources and federal contracting documents.

Construction on some of the facilities is set to begin as soon as next month, one of the sources familiar with the project told CNN.

The contracting program, which has not been previously reported, is a joint effort between DHS and the Defense Department and leans on the Navy’s Supply Systems Command as a contracting arm to hire companies for construction and maintenance of the detention facilities.

The new detention centers are likely to be primarily soft-sided tents and may or may not be built on existing Navy installations, according to the sources familiar with the initiative. DHS has often leaned on soft-sided facilities to manage influxes of migrants.

One of the sources said the goal is for the facilities to house as many as 10,000 people each, and are expected to be built in Louisiana, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Utah and Kansas. Additional details about the facilities remain unclear, as the contracting process is still ongoing.

An uptick in immigration arrests has required more detention space to hold people for processing and potentially deportation. ICE, which also uses local jails to hold people, was previously funded for around 41,000 beds to temporarily house detainees. White House border czar Tom Homan has said he wants to double that number of detention beds—and fast.

~bella

 

[Richard T]

Basically there are two main positions on Immigration law. Those who want safety and secuirty of borders but also law and order in society. Then there are the radical Marxist ideologues who want open borders and defund the police as they believe there should be no borders and law and order is oppression.

They oppose government power to enforce laws and want a free for all in the name of a DEI utopia. Pie in the sky stuff. Its often decends into violence because if we look at all the groups who have this ideology they end up using terror to achieve the destruction of the percieved oppressors.

ICE is seen as an arm of the oppressor Trump who is a Nazi and fascists that must be stopped. Just applying the normal law enforcement that any rational society would apply to keep their borders safe is deemed as oppression and therefore this must be met with terror.

Its more or less the same ideology as Islamists. Except rather than a Caliphate and Sharia law or bringing about Allahs rule. The Marxists ideologues want a Socialist utopia of some sort where all outcomes are equal. BUt both percieve the world as there being oppressors and infidels that must be stopped with violence and terror.

They see the world as oppressors and victims so every action against the percieved oppressed which includes terrorist groups and harden criminals and organisations is seen as oppression and must be met with terror.

They have the perfect army in that many are already criminals, gangs, organised crime and terror groups that are utilising the deluded western ideologues who fall for all this ideological thinking. The two have some weird cojoining like we see with groups like Queers for Palestine and Hamas. Its a strange phenomena.

But their common hate for all things western, whites, Jews and Christians unites them.

Why not a third option? You know like Reagan? Where the GOP has a heart and wants to boost the economy by granting amnesty to working aliens that have been here for some years? I imagine most Americans support this. There is a Florida Congresswoman that put together a package to allow them to work, but never receive citizenship. They pay a 7,000 fee and they can apply from within the USA if approved. That is far better than Trump's plan, though I think that they should be allowed citizenship at some point.

There are other options too like one that promoted a common market for the USA similar to that of the EU. A NAFTA area where you could live anywhere in USA, Canada or Mexico, freely if a non-criminal. No real need for new citizenship either, just vote in your home nation. Proposed in the 1990s by some, it would have prevented border, immigration and many drug issues today. It would have expanded Nafta at the expense of others. It would be a powerful regional block that could extend USA/NAFTA influence well into the future.
In a way Trump has this vision, he just wants to bring in Canada or Greenland though and merge them as a U.S. state. But that is not what Canada wants and I doubt Mexico either. Instead, we will just sanction ourselves with more Canadian tariffs because an ad upsets the President. Ironic though because since Trump claims he needs those emergency tariff powers as they will argue in court in Nov., the truth really is that most tariffs are just personal deals that Trump is not principled about or has any serious economic basis.

 

[camille70]

Graham Gman on Instagram: "ILLINOIS — BROADVIEW POLICE CHIEF ON ICE: “I was shocked. I’ve never been spoken to by a fellow law enforcement officer in such a way.” ICE is routinely gassing cops and negatively impacting the community as their detentio

Broadview Police Chief Thomas Mills recounts his encounter with ICE agents, who verbally attacked him during a protest. This incident highlights the growing concerns about ICE's methods and their effects on local law enforcement and communities.

www.instagram.com

 

[camille70]

Joanne Molinaro, The Korean Vegan (@thekoreanvegan) on Threads

This is my teammate from the running team I’ve been running with since 2017. He is 67 yo. Training for the NYC marathon. Coming home from the team long run when he found the road his home is on was blocked by ICE. He pulled up and asked to be let through so he could go home. They told him to...

www.threads.com

 

[Belk]

Thanks for the video. He should have been arrested and detained for at least 3 weeks. He created or was creating a risk to known and/or unknown people. He was not, he is not , innocent of guilt.

Oh yes, that well known crime of playing music we don't like.

 

[camille70]

Bill Melugin is a correspondent for foxnews.
Apparently most of the aggressiveness against immigrants and citizens are being carried out by CBP and not ICE. According to this tweet, they are clearing out top officials because they are not satisfied with the number of apprehensions thus far.
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Excerpt:

Generally speaking, ICE typically conducts very targeted operations, largely going after criminal illegal aliens or those with deportation orders, but almost always knowing who they are targeting for arrest, often conducting surveillance to learn their schedules before and waiting hours before arresting them if needed.

Border Patrol, under Trump 2.0, while sometimes doing their own targeted operations, has been extremely aggressive and has been at the forefront of some of the most controversial immigration enforcement operations we've seen so far, carrying out roving patrols in Los Angeles, Chicago, etc, often at Home Depot, car washes, flea markets etc, leading to a handful of federal judges around the country issuing injunctions against them. A majority of the viral videos you see online are Border Patrol agents, including the use of a Trojan horse style Penske moving truck at a Los Angeles Home Depot, an operation organized by Bovino.

ICE often gets blamed for what Border Patrol does, as the media and activists often cannot tell the difference between federal agents, and everyone is called "ICE". I'm told there are growing concerns about the political and PR fallout associated with some of the roving patrols Border Patrol is conducting as lawsuits continue to stack up and mid-terms approach next year.

I'm told there is significant friction within different wings of DHS and the administration, with Border Czar Tom Homan & ICE Director Todd Lyons preferring to prioritize targeting criminal aliens & the "worst of the worst" or those with deportation orders, while DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, Corey Lewandowski, and BP Commander Bovino prefer to use aggressive tactics to arrest anyone in the US illegally, including but not limited to criminals, to ramp up deportation numbers and achieve President Trump's promises of mass deportations.

Full tweet:

https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1982959806173581456

Thread by @BillMelugin_ on Thread Reader App

@BillMelugin_: BREAKING: Per four senior DHS & Trump admin sources, a mass removal of ICE leadership around the country is underway, with up to 12 ICE field office chiefs being removed & reassigned in an effort...…

threadreaderapp.com

 

[bèlla]

ICE actions in Chicago spark outrage, Halloween parade canceled

Homeland Security defends ICE after confrontations in Chicago, tear gas used and a kids’ Halloween parade canceled amid arrests.

 

[rjs330]

Judge orders feds to preserve videos of agents using tear gas; ICE says some footage likely erased

For hours, a judge questioned officials at the heart of the government's immigration enforcement operation in Chicago on Monday.

abc7chicago.com

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/federal-judge-clears-path-for-deposition-of-top-border-patrol-commander-ice-officials/3841101/

Tweet:
Judge Sara Ellis is allowing the deposition of Border Patrol boss Greg Bovino to expand to FIVE hours (she'd limited it to 2), and she wants to hear about use of force by CBP in Little Village this week.

Plus a reminder to "preserve all body-worn camera footage."

https://x.com/SeidelContent/status/1981453629954371834

The chief and border patrol used video to show what they ste doing is legal. They had a lot of video of agents warning people over and over again. They had video of these protestors surrounding agents, throwing rocks and damaging their vehicles. So all that is being done by these agents is legal abd abuses by the court order. The judge issued another order to the chief to wear and use a body camera and he agreed to follow the order. The chief and patrol have proven now to the judge that their actions have followed the order.

 

[rjs330]

Democrats are fed up with ICE traumatizing kids at schools

Democrats are fed up with ICE traumatizing kids at schools

At least half a dozen Democratic senators, led by Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, are calling on the Department of Education to stop immigration raids near schools. The letter, which was sent on ...

www.dailykos.com

Why don't the Democrats tell illegals to stay away from schools? ICE would have no need to be in the area if their weren't illegals there. Once more proving that the Democrats WANT illegals here.

 

[rjs330]

Let's see the pathetic excuses from trump supporters for this one.

And before they repeat the lies being proffered by a DHS spokesnazi that "Figueroa's vehicle blocked agents and struck an unmarked government vehicle.", the video showing the Ice scumbags doing a U-turn in the middle of the road and hitting the victims car can be seen as plain as day in the video on the page.



That's what fascism looks like.

I think there is more to the story than this. It could very well be that rhe agents believed she was blocking them in. You could see at the very beginning someone trying to prevent them from leaving by standing in front of their vehicle. You can't see whats going on behind their vehicle. The first time you see anything regarding rhis woman is when she drives around their vehicle and they hit her. Perhaps she was blocking them in. I don't know, I can't see.

It is a possibility they were completely in the wrong here and she wasn't actually intentionally blocking them and they over reacted. If thats the case then they should suffer the consequences of that over reaction. However, if she was blocking them intentionally that's a different matter. The fact that she wasn't charged with anything is totally unacceptable and in fact supports her story because I would think if she did they would charge her. So at this point im a big "I don't know what really happened" because we dont have enough information. But I'm leaning on her side since no charges were given.

And if the agents screwed up they should suffer consequences for it.

 

[rjs330]

At Bay Area protest, a second pastor is shot by federal agents with a pepper round

OAKLAND, Calif. (RNS) — For the second time in six weeks, a pastor was struck in the head with a pepper round fired by a US immigration agent as faith leaders protested the arrival of more than 100 US Customs and Border Patrol agents.

religionnews.com

MSN

Video:

https://x.com/Kaos_Vs_Control/status/1981821670206660907

From the article-

the demonstrators crowded the intersection, peacefully blocking entry to the base, while singing anthems like “We Shall Not Be Moved” in English and Spanish.

They were blocking the intersection and not letting the agents pass. The agents used non-lethal force to get through. The protestors, including this pastor got what they deserved. Obstructing the officers in this way, breaking the laws of this land, trying to prevent enforcement of the law which has been in place for a very long time and has been supported as Consituational despite ones own feelings on the matter, is antithetical to the a country that relies on the rule of law and justice. Protestors are to blame for this. If they would have just stood on the sidewalks, held signs and sang they would have been fine. But blocking the street and the vehicles is deserving of the actions of the agents.

 

[rjs330]

Looking to speed up building network of migrant detention centers, Trump administration turns to the US Navy

The Department of Homeland Security is funneling $10 billion through the Navy to help facilitate the construction of a sprawling network of migrant detention centers across the US in an arrangement aimed at getting the centers built faster, according to sources and federal contracting documents.

Construction on some of the facilities is set to begin as soon as next month, one of the sources familiar with the project told CNN.

The contracting program, which has not been previously reported, is a joint effort between DHS and the Defense Department and leans on the Navy’s Supply Systems Command as a contracting arm to hire companies for construction and maintenance of the detention facilities.

The new detention centers are likely to be primarily soft-sided tents and may or may not be built on existing Navy installations, according to the sources familiar with the initiative. DHS has often leaned on soft-sided facilities to manage influxes of migrants.

One of the sources said the goal is for the facilities to house as many as 10,000 people each, and are expected to be built in Louisiana, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Utah and Kansas. Additional details about the facilities remain unclear, as the contracting process is still ongoing.

An uptick in immigration arrests has required more detention space to hold people for processing and potentially deportation. ICE, which also uses local jails to hold people, was previously funded for around 41,000 beds to temporarily house detainees. White House border czar Tom Homan has said he wants to double that number of detention beds—and fast.

~bella

Good, happy to see it done.

 

[camille70]

From the article-

the demonstrators crowded the intersection, peacefully blocking entry to the base, while singing anthems like “We Shall Not Be Moved” in English and Spanish.

They were blocking the intersection and not letting the agents pass. The agents used non-lethal force to get through. The protestors, including this pastor got what they deserved. Obstructing the officers in this way, breaking the laws of this land, trying to prevent enforcement of the law which has been in place for a very long time and has been supported as Consituational despite ones own feelings on the matter, is antithetical to the a country that relies on the rule of law and justice. Protestors are to blame for this. If they would have just stood on the sidewalks, held signs and sang they would have been fine. But blocking the street and the vehicles is deserving of the actions of the agents.

A judge issued an injection that they can't use chemical agents unless they are facing harm. Blocking an intersection isn't life threatening and they fired directly into his face.

 

[camille70]

Good, happy to see it done.

My personal conspiracy theory: I dont think those are for the immigrants. They are supposed to be deporting people and blocking access to the border, not housing folks. The numbers should be going down, not increasing. Those facilities will be for the so called "enemy within" which means anyone who disagrees with his administration or policies. Or Stephen Miller's, rather.